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Disgaea 4: A Promise Unforgotten |OT| - Defend The Prinnies, Define Your Netherworld.

Cheska

Member
SWEET! My NIS issues got fixed today, so I should still be receiving my copy soon. I know people have had issues with them in the past, but the service I jut received was exceptional. That may also be because apparently my problem was a fairly common one.
 

scy

Member
Owensboro said:
I'm going to ask a strange question that I hope GAF can answer for me: Are there any "How to Play" guides / videos for these games?

There's probably a bunch for Disgaea/Disgaea 2 over at GameFAQs (shameless self-plug). I honestly spent way too much time there on those two games :/

For instance, why spend the hour it would take to level up and item when you will just buy a better one later?

That's why you don't. You're better off doing exactly what you say: Just buy better stuff as they unlock. This changes when you can't unlock better equipment as then the Item World becomes your source of finding (i.e., stealing) better stuff. Additionally, some Specialists/Innocents are super helpful to have early on (i.e., Statisticians for the bonus EXP) but that's a bit beyond "basic gameplay" stuff.

If you never use the Item World, barring the Story requirement, you're not really missing out of anything as far as the main game is concerned.

Why stack everyone in a Tower and take one turn, when you could have everyone take individual turns and kill faster?

Generally, the only purpose for them was to split EXP. They really had no real other purpose (i.e., damage) barring _maybe_ really early on in some weird circumstances but, generally speaking, you're always better served splitting up the attacks and just comboing it to get the damage bonus.

Honestly, I can't really think of a situation where a Tower Attack is the best use of all your characters.

Also worth noting is the use of making a Tower in order to lift someone who hasn't moved from the Base Panel and throwing them clear across the map. A pretty useful thing to get used to doing to make Item World runs painless. Item Worlding is basically how much can you throw (or how much +Movement can you stack).

Why Reincarnate and cripple your character back at Level 1, only to have to babysit them to level them up again?

The system is mostly for post-game stuff. Reincarnating, in short, adjusts your base stats which are used to determine how much you gain per level. Gaining +10 to your base stat doesn't seem like a big deal but 100 levels of it is approximately ~460-ish extra in that stat. Still, this is mainly a post-game related thing and it's more the finishing touches to finalizing a character. The stat gain from a fully reincarnated character is pretty minimal, honestly (something around ~1.2 million, which is a lot lower than the multipliers given for being Level 9999).

This is a bigger deal in D3 since you needed to Reincarnate (or create a new character, I suppose) to go up class tiers to get better Weapon Masteries so you have access to better skills. D1/D2, you can get by not caring as it's just some aptitudes being raised.

Why have that monster combine with that character to make a weapon when you could have both characters attack separately and do more damage?

Magichange wasn't that useful in D3 barring some unique situations to maximize damage output in a single attack ... which isn't that useful for actually playing the game. D4 changes it up a bit with how the system works but I've kept myself in the dark on D4 mechanics so I can't tell you too much on the exacts of it.
 

Negator

Member
It's weird. NISA charged my card and my account says pending fulfillment, and my USPS tracking only says "There is no record of this item. "

Beginning to think it might not have actually shipped.
 
Negator said:
It's weird. NISA charged my card and my account says pending fulfillment, and my USPS tracking only says "There is no record of this item. "

Beginning to think it might not have actually shipped.
If you just got that tracking number, it may not show up for a day or two. I've had tracking numbers not show information for me until the package is nearly there.
 
Negator said:
It's weird. NISA charged my card and my account says pending fulfillment, and my USPS tracking only says "There is no record of this item. "

Beginning to think it might not have actually shipped.

Mine was like that all day until I received the order is fulfilled email then it finally started to appear on usps tracking.
 

graywolf323

Member
latest Prinny Bomb

NISA said:
Hey, dood! We wanted to reach out and let you know that we are currently restocking our Premium Edition for Disgaea 4.

If you have recently ordered our Disgaea 4 Premium Edition (on or after Aug. 27th), please be aware that your order may ship out after Sep. 9th. If your order is shipped out earlier, you will be notified via a shipping confirmation e-mail.

All orders placed prior to Aug. 27th are currently in the process to be shipped out. Thank you for your understanding, dood!

guess I won't be seeing my copy anytime soon :-( didn't confirm I had the money to spare to buy it now until the 28th *sighs*
 

Negator

Member
It's here. I'm ecstatic!

NO! Work in two hours! I don't want to go :(

[edit]
Might as well post the picture
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lljride

Member
Negator said:
It's here. I'm ecstatic!

NO! Work in two hours! I don't want to go :(

Aww man, I hope mine is waiting for me when I get home. Did your status on NIS or USPS ever update before you got it? Mine's still showing Pending Fulfillment/can't locate tracking #.

edit: lol, I JUST got an email from NIS saying it's been fulfilled, new USPS # is out for dellivery!
 

LProtag

Member
This is one series that I would often see my roommate delving into doing crazy stuff that made no sense to me for an SRPG and spending hours grinding at it. This game looks really gorgeous too. Perhaps I should start in the series... is just going from 1 the best way?
 

Nix

Banned
InsertNameHere said:
This is one series that I would often see my roommate delving into doing crazy stuff that made no sense to me for an SRPG and spending hours grinding at it. This game looks really gorgeous too. Perhaps I should start in the series... is just going from 1 the best way?
Starting from any would be fine, seeing as how they're all stand-alone titles; but yeah, you should probably go ahead and play one, if just for the story. The amazing story, and great cast.

Then I'd say go ahead with the others after you're done with 1; I wouldn't bother on post game content really, since it's so easy to break it early in that game. I'd say just go on to 2, or bypass 2 and go to 4.
 

Volcynika

Member
NISA store has blessed me, my copy of the premium figure edition has been delivered!

My USPS tracking number STILL doesn't work, so don't let that make you fret if you have the same issue!
 

Negator

Member
My USPS Tracking number still says the item could not be found.

I got another email saying my order was fulfilled about an hour ago.
 

Saroyan

Member
Wow people already have theirs?

I placed my pre-order for the premium edition the first day it was available on the NISA store. They billed my paypal on the 23rd and said it would ship by the 29th at the latest but I still haven't received an email or anything saying it shipped out.
 
Is anyone getting copies of the regular edition from NISA yet? If they're shipping this week, I'd jump over and "pre-order" from them tonight to get my copy by week's end.
 

LProtag

Member
Nix said:
Starting from any would be fine, seeing as how they're all stand-alone titles; but yeah, you should probably go ahead and play one, if just for the story. The amazing story, and great cast.

Then I'd say go ahead with the others after you're done with 1; I wouldn't bother on post game content really, since it's so easy to break it early in that game. I'd say just go on to 2, or bypass 2 and go to 4.

Cool. Is the PSP version noticeably better than the PS2 version or is it a direct port? I figure I'd get more play time if I had it on a PSP because for some reason I can pick up a portable system and play it longer without feeling like I've been wasting as much time, haha. Also I just got a PSP and want to go through the backlog anyway.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
InsertNameHere said:
Cool. Is the PSP version noticeably better than the PS2 version or is it a direct port? I figure I'd get more play time if I had it on a PSP because for some reason I can pick up a portable system and play it longer without feeling like I've been wasting as much time, haha. Also I just got a PSP and want to go through the backlog anyway.

The PSP version is better in every way, even graphically.
 

Cheska

Member
So is the preorder soundtrack ship loosely in the same box or is it inside of the premium packaging? May do the old buy and return method if I dont get this soon.
 
What's really strange is that I hated all those voices at the beginning of the youtube video, but I was ok and used to them by the end of it. I'm just glad not to hear the a voice from an anime. If they are known actors I don't hear it and that's great for once.
 

Negator

Member
The PSP version is an enhanced port with added content and features. It is the best version of Disgaea that you can get.
 
Penguin nerd said:
I hate you all right now. I just had to order from Amazon and not NISA. :(
yeah, not sure what I was thinking. I think I was wondering if I would have the money ready before the weekend was over. I pre-ordered some time ago.
 

Ken

Member
InsertNameHere said:
Alright, I'll start playing the first one on PSP sometime soon then! Then I'll work my way to this one.

Disgaea 1 was amazing my first time through on PS2, and again on the PSP. Hope you have a good time with it!
 

scy

Member
Penguin nerd said:
I hate you all right now. I just had to order from Amazon and not NISA. :(

If it makes you feel any better, it seems it's just the figure set that is getting sent out early.
 
Wow that was fast, I think I get mine today. Im shocked it only took one day via ground...to get from Anaheim, CA, to Roanoke, VA. I hope competent guides are on gamefaqs for it, Im ready to get my game on.
 

lljride

Member
:/

50 hidden trophies NIS, are you kidding me? I'm sure not a one is story related either.

I didni't get too far last night (just finished ch 1), but I kinda like the new Cam-pain mechanic that replaced the homeroom from D3. Excited to see what that winds up looking like later in the game.
 

Nix

Banned
IT SHIPPED! I LOVE YOU NISA!!<3

Man, I got the premium, but looking at all the supreme editions, I'm getting a little jealous (Even though I don't collect figurines.)
 

Owensboro

Member
scy said:
[Text explaining all of my questions]


Wow, thanks man. I appreciate the answers. It's so easy to get overwhelmed by the sheer amount of stuff you can do in this game. Although, it's sad to see that most of the things I had questions about are useless if you just want to beat the game.

Probably still going to buy the game. I'm such a sucker for turn based & grid based strategy games.
 
think i'm biting on this with us version....
my only question is....
will magichange be actually useful in this game, or it will be a giggle-giggle-see-once-and-forget thing like in disgaea 3?
and another question..
will disgaea 4 europe get any limited edition at all? else i can as well go and buy the us edition straight away :L
 

ElegantBuffalo

Neo Member
keeblerdrow said:
Is anyone getting copies of the regular edition from NISA yet? If they're shipping this week, I'd jump over and "pre-order" from them tonight to get my copy by week's end.

I believe only premium are going out early, but someone noted earlier that they are sending them out to people that ordered before the 27th. Any orders that go in now will not be fulfilled till next week.

Wish I had ordered from NISA :( But after, I can't remember which game it was, Neptunia maybe? NISA was slow at getting the game out and it was coming in after the release date. I didn't want to risk it. How sad I am now. :(
 
ElegantBuffalo said:
Wish I had ordered from NISA :( But after, I can't remember which game it was, Neptunia maybe? NISA was slow at getting the game out and it was coming in after the release date. I didn't want to risk it. How sad I am now. :(

I thought that was because the shipping was affected by that massive snowstorm.
 
Well my order finaly shipped. So I am lucky I'll get in about two or two and half weeks. So I guess there is almost no chance that I am going to get White Knight Chronicles 2 any time soon.
 

Saroyan

Member
I got my shipping notice this morning, I'm excited to get it, even though I probably won't be playing it right away due to backlog.
 

ElegantBuffalo

Neo Member
Dedication Through Light said:
I thought that was because the shipping was affected by that massive snowstorm.

I didn't know what caused it, I was just saddened by it. So I apparently made a huge mistake and now I am sad because I do not have D4 yet. This will be a long three day weekend. It is just not right. I am going to have a 3 day weekend and all I will be doing is saying... I wish it were Tuesday!
 

Ichabod

Banned
Does this game still have the same character leveling system, i.e. only the person landing the killing blow gets xp? I hated that. Everyone should get xp for beating on mobs.
 
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