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Divinity: Original Sin |OT| Sandbox RPG. Co-Op friendly. Bread.
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lordfuzzybutt
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I have the same question, Aureus told me to inform him and yet he has no dialogue :/
It goes by initiative.
It depends on their "initiative" stat, which is directly connected to speed, +initiative from gear and +initiative for Leadership buff (which everyone should have at least on level 1 for mages, and level 2 for melees). You can delay your turn, tho. Just press the button on the very right of the screen.
Yeh I saw that, thanks! I really want the OS tracks though. For now there are a few on youtube I can playlist.
Wish I'd backed this game...
You need to choose the option to discuss source business I think, or something like that. It's sitting behind another dialogue option and isn't immediately apparent.
It's quite fun imo. Btw you don't have to avoid that many (2 or 3 iirc) for the main objective.
That said there are a nice number of loot to be had if you explore the rest. Also if you have any invisibility spell/Scroll, now is the time. One character is enough until you reach the second waypoint of the mines.
Also maybe you didn't notice but you can destroy the cave-ins.
lordfuzzybutt
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No. All the options doesn't work. The source business only makes him saying the same thing over again like he knew about the mad king Braccus and all but no mention about him being beaten.
Just use invisibility or your best character to stealth, and let the others follow with the teleport pyramids.
Sentenza
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Pyramids don't work inside the mine.
Beside that, the advice was sound. Do the same with portals.
Oh, I see. I didn't even use stealth since it was relatively easy to pass from the north. But yeah, the portals are good.
the problem with this thread is that anything that is useful and fun is considered broken. you can't get items that outpower same level legendaries without investing at least 2-3 levels into BS (along with bonuses). That's not trivial as you are taking those points away from other abilities that have likewise benefits.
The only thing I may consider broken in the game is Leech. There doesn't seem to be any downside. For 1 skill point you can essentially ignore healing on any melee that has it. It also in the mid-game makes them invulnerable+ (they heal) on slash and puncture attacks (I'm getting hit for 40 and absorbing 60)
Not if you're playing coop it isn't. Worst area in the game by far.
Oh did not notice about the cave-ins
Alright thanks guys I'm gonna try this tonight
Unsure then, sorry. I'm sure I went straight to him and don't remember being stumped... maybe someone who's at that point could help you out. :3
Sentenza
Member
Eh, I wasn't so I absolutely loved it.
He attacked me afterwards. I can't finish any of the quests involving him. So I dunno.
Pollux
Member
Thanks for the guide. That map and their basic tips help a lot.
Going to get back to this game later tonight. I hate this game so god damn much - but at the same time I love it even more.
Huh that's weird. Maybe I was too long.
Once you make it past the temple door all your characters get teleported to you.
Leech combined with comeback kid is pretty good. If you die your character survives with one hp and then leech heals you some; you get killed again but comeback kid saves you with 1 hp then leech heals you again, its a pretty good cycle.
I'm pretty bitter that after respecing my warrior that whirlwind and dust devil skills dont show up on vendors. I leveled up then save scummed at vendors and they never had those books. After some googling it looks like im not alone in the issue.
The vendor inventory system is a bit troublesome and I hope the developers modify it at some point. In particular, there are several spells, like the Man-At-Arms skill that lowers enemy resistances, that are almost make or break on some of the bosses, and not being able to obtain them due to bad RNG luck is an issue.
Also, once you get close to endgame, you finally get the option of respeccing all of your character points, but this has the side effect of removing all of your learned spells, which can be a huge problem if you've cleaned out all of the skillbooks from vendors already.
Also, once you get close to endgame, you finally get the option of respeccing all of your character points, but this has the side effect of removing all of your learned spells, which can be a huge problem if you've cleaned out all of the skillbooks from vendors already.
Vendors do restock.
Also, have you checked the
elementals in the homestead
fire guy
I'm not 100% sure, but I think the vendors restock their inventory when you level up. So if you're at endgame and level 20, and remove all of your skills through respeccing, then you're potentially in a bind if the shop vendors don't have what you need.
Schobeleth
Member
Hey guys. I wanted to let you know our extremely thorough (3.5K words) review for Divinity: Original Sin is published:
http://nichegamer.net/reviews/divinity-original-sin-review-it-will-steal-your-soul-and-spare-time/
Carl absolutely loved it
, being a veteran of the genre he had a lot to say about the game. I implore you guys to check it out and please let us know what you think 
OP, could you add it to the review list as well?
It's a shame more websites aren't reviewing the title, as it's excellent, albeit crazily deep and challenging (which is probably part of the reason).
http://nichegamer.net/reviews/divinity-original-sin-review-it-will-steal-your-soul-and-spare-time/
Carl absolutely loved it
and gave it a 9.5/10
OP, could you add it to the review list as well?It's a shame more websites aren't reviewing the title, as it's excellent, albeit crazily deep and challenging (which is probably part of the reason).
Yeh, there should be an npc with all unlocked skills that you can pay to relearn if you need to, or something. Tying character progression to rng is never a good idea.
go to cyseal anduse the first pyramid
Lol, before posting this I thought
"I'll try using it when I get on the game tonight."
Vendors restock when you level up. All of them.
Random skills is part of the game world. There are no 'make or break' skills. There is always another way to solve an encounter. Don't get locked into one solution.
Last night we got ambushed in Hinderheim and my character was completrly blocked off by a neutral stag. I didn't want to murder him so I feather fall's him away from the fight. My friend was convinced I was the only one that's done that...but just the fact I had that choice presented to me was a completely spontaneous moment in the game.
I chose to be true to my animal loving ways and used the mechanics of thr game to roleplay that. This game is so wonderful.
Random skills is part of the game world. There are no 'make or break' skills. There is always another way to solve an encounter. Don't get locked into one solution.
Last night we got ambushed in Hinderheim and my character was completrly blocked off by a neutral stag. I didn't want to murder him so I feather fall's him away from the fight. My friend was convinced I was the only one that's done that...but just the fact I had that choice presented to me was a completely spontaneous moment in the game.
I chose to be true to my animal loving ways and used the mechanics of thr game to roleplay that. This game is so wonderful.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Also, I find that it's generally true that the vendors
will have the higher level skills available.
you unlock in the end of time
It's not about that, it's about RNG prevent access especially if people don't want to reload saves.
I don't know if this is a huge concern as I've not noticed it yet, I always seem to be able to find the skills I need. Especially with the addition of the
elementals in the homestead
This mindset is completely opposite of the way the game is constructed. If every spell were available at all times they would just have fixed spell lists available for selection in a menu.
Some spells only exist as quest/fixed rewards. Some spells are rare from vendors but also drop in the world. Skills/spell manuals feel valuable and significant because they're random. You may not immediately have them avaiable.
The other solution is to do some long term planning. If you see a skillbook that looks valuable in a shop...maybe you should just buy it! They're expensive for a reason as well.
Don't blame on 'bad' mechanics what is a conscious decision of game design to add entropy to the game. It makes the world feel more immersive and less fixed. Just like the randomized loot...every experience is unique to each journey.
This conversation took place on the beta forums too and they still did not change it. It's intentional...and well thought out. Just try changing your mindset about needing a 'perfect' character.
Access isn't supposed to be guarenteed.
Reloading saves doesn't reset the vendor. Quick loading does but is a bug. They're only supposed to reset on leveling up; any other reset is an exploit.
Access not being guarenteed isn't a bad design decision just because you're not used to it. You have to consider the -millions- of tactical options you have in this game. To feel deprived by a single skill is...not thinking very deeply about your tactical options.
I didn't say "available at all times", I said "once unlocked".
I also don't have an issue with it as my characters are planned well, but others might.
Quick save/loading before a level up.
I am used to it fine and I do appreciate how it adds to the emergent world, but I just don't like rng preventing options with chracter progression.
with spells it's not too bad.. because spell scrolls drop so frequently (for me at least) that if a vendor doesn't have one I want/need chances are I already have the scroll or will likely get it. OR I can just pray to the RNG gods and write some scrolls myself.
but yeah, expert marksman, man at arms, and scoundrel are all just kind of screwed. the vendor situation wouldn't be that bad IF they gave you an alternate means to get/create those books beyond RNG vendor and loot drops ONLY.
edit - even odder is that I thought you can get a witchcraft blank scroll from crafting... or am I wrong on that? I am almost positive I've seen blank witchcraft scrolls.
but yeah, expert marksman, man at arms, and scoundrel are all just kind of screwed. the vendor situation wouldn't be that bad IF they gave you an alternate means to get/create those books beyond RNG vendor and loot drops ONLY.
edit - even odder is that I thought you can get a witchcraft blank scroll from crafting... or am I wrong on that? I am almost positive I've seen blank witchcraft scrolls.
lordfuzzybutt
Member
Just paid for a girl whom i thought to be a hooker and she sat me down and told me a goddamn story. Ain't even mad.
Why would that matter? The button is 'forget' not 'save for later'.
People having an issue with it is the point. It forces obsessive planners into thinking of different ways to tackle the encounters in the game. If anything they should be even more rare; fortunately many spells are very rare as books in the shop.
Yes, which has nothng to do with an npc being able to teach you again for a cost.
I haven't reached the end-game (or even the later mid-game really) yet, but the idea that there would be a single make-or-break skill in this game seems off to me. There are just so many viable tactical options in battle, it would have to change completely for something like that to be possible.
Heh. She can do something even more awesome as well. Game is full of surprise moments.
Which eliminates the penalty for choosing to forget...which is the possibility you may not have access to the book.
You want a consequence for a decision removed because you dont care for the consequence. Instead the game expects you to deal with it...because you chose to forget that spell.
Designing to eliminate consequences is a terrible road to travel down.
I think the problem people are having is the suggestion in swinging the needle from "hardcore" to "modern menu based shop"
As I said, I think the only problem with those per se is that with spells you have 4 ways to obtain a book (merchant, book drop, scroll drop, scroll craft). With skills you only have 2 ways (merchant, book drop). They should really probably add at least one additional way to get a skill book for non-casters.
edit - one thing I will say amidst all of this. DO NOT EVER FRIGGIN SELL SKILL BOOKS!!! Seriously, even if you are POSITIVE you will never need it.. don't friggin sell it. Spell book? Fine, you always have a chance at getting a book or scroll later. But skill books? I mean are you even reading this thread!?!?
Lap dance confirmed.
I completely wrecked him, the fight was over in 5 minutes or so. As always, oath of desecration and wildfire on the 2h guy and then going to town on him.
The could be ways to add consequence that don't require rng. Maybe give up an attribute point, another skill, maybe 2 skills, maybe something more wieghty...
I'm just not a fan of character progression tied to rng, I'm sure there's a better way to design it so it so decision has weight.
As above.
It's not got anything to do with not being able to make do with what you have.
I'd almost buy that if non casters didn't have high basic attack damage as part of their characters. Also support marksman scrolls actuslly do exist (Doctor/first aid).
But the ultimate point is none of those characters are ineffective without any specific skill. There's also nothing stopping them from using the caster class scrolls to bolster their options. Or special arrows.
Your options in this game are limited only by your mind, not which spell books dropped for you.