-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Divinity: Original Sin |OT| Sandbox RPG. Co-Op friendly. Bread.
- Thread starter Casimir
- Start date
nonadventurer
Neo Member
I enjoyed Divine Divinity a lot, but I would strongly argue against saying it's anything like Original Sin! (Sorry to barge in, but I just don't want any of this thread's readers to be misled
)Divine Divinity's gameplay is essentially the (much) better version of Diablo. It's real-time, and it isn't particularly tactical. The game doesn't have the freedom or the free-form gameplay of Original Sin, either, and the character development is much simpler too.
Seriously though, whoever was maybe disappointed by any of the previous Divinity games -- DO give Original Sin a try!! It's a completely different beast, much closer to the classic RPGs from Ultima to Fallout or Baldur's Gate II. I swear you won't be disappointed
nonadventurer
Neo Member
I'm sorry for the double post - but how so? Forget the intention, focus on the gameplay. Yeah, I know Divine Divinity wasn't your standard Diablo-like, but still, it had a Diablo-like gameplay, it wasn't turn-based, it didn't have nearly the same environment interaction nor character development. It was a totally different game.
Original Sin is just much more of a full-fledged, classic RPG.
HiddenWings
Member
I... many have gone overboard buying copies of this game upon discovering what it really is. I'll have a choice of co-op partners when it comes out, at least.
Well, I just mean it's more of a cRPG in a genre sense. Talking, exploring etc, I wouldn't call it a straight hack n slash. Original Sin is also part of the cRPG genre. I didn't meant that the two games play alike.I enjoyed Divine Divinity a lot, but I would strongly argue against saying it's anything like Original Sin! (Sorry to barge in, but I just don't want any of this thread's readers to be misled
Divine Divinity's gameplay is essentially the (much) better version of Diablo. It's real-time, and it isn't particularly tactical. The game doesn't have the freedom or the free-form gameplay of Original Sin, either, and the character development is much simpler too.
Seriously though, whoever was maybe disappointed by any of the previous Divinity games -- DO give Original Sin a try!! It's a completely different beast, much closer to the classic RPGs from Ultima to Fallout or Baldur's Gate II. I swear you won't be disappointed
It really is remarkable. Although there are probably a lot of cRPG fans who have been waiting for this renaissance we're starting to go through now to finally happen. Just yesterday we had a three page thread on Inquisitor, a heavily text-based isometric rpg. Oh, and it's still going.
There does seem to be quite a few newcomers to the genre though, and I hope they enjoy this one.
I'm certain I hit my partner with a Melee strike while aiming for a chest. I didn't try it again for obvious reasons, and I'm not at my PC, but I think you can friendly melee.
grandwizard
Member
Preordered during the daily sale, trying to get some other stuff out of the way before this hits because I know it'll be a huge time sink. I'm expecting it to be totally ignored by the mainstream games press so I hope user impressions and youtubers can get the word out!
Wouldn't mind if Larian did another Divine Divinity type game. Even though they didn't want it to be action based, it still turned out to be their best game so far and was well received. Imagine a Divine Divinity type game with a higher budget and co-op added also using Divinity: Original Sin's engine. Would want.
it was part of it. Since there is an option for KS backers to receive a GOG key, I think it'll be on gog as well.
What would you have them do? It was not done before the sale, and withholding it from their backers and fans for a while after the sale when it is done just to improve the launch day impact potential would be an asshole move.
I blame Valve. Also: heels.
Gully State
Member
It was top 10 in sales on the first day (I bought a copy). I think it'll be ok. Plus games like these usually have long tails.
Sentenza
Member
Well, let me put it in this way: I have a lot of hope in Pillars of Eternity and it *may* end up being even better, but it will definitely need some hard work and great results to achieve that, because Divinity Original Sin definitely doesn't look like a pushover as competition.
Yeah, I also got that feeling when i had a look at those extras a few months ago. They've wanted to make OS for a long time now.
I'd like to second that. Really interesting stuff. There are also a few nice development documents included with Dragon Commander.
It's certainly a good start for the OT. Better than I expected!
I had no idea this stuff was included with developer's cut. Divinity: Sword of Lies is a much better name.
I'm not even that much of an cRPG fan, didn't play most classics, never touched the franchise before The Dragon Knight Saga on the 360, which I never finished because the game was region locked and I had to sell my french 360 (bought it on PC again though, I'll get to it when I can), but this game looks absolutely amazing, you don't have to be a big fan, just watch a trailer and you'll be excited.
Here you can watch the documentary people have mentioned in this thread for Divinity 2
the doc is actually interesting in that it gives insight into why they love kickstarter now.
the doc is actually interesting in that it gives insight into why they love kickstarter now.
Talking about names, I guess Divinity: Original Sin was named "Eyes of a Child" at some point?
(there's "EoC" in the executable name, and that string is in the binary)
Brofist.
Really happy how this thread is turning out. A few weeks ago I wouldn't have imagined so many posts on the first day. Well deserved by this awesome game.
Thanks for all the compliments on the OT everyone!
Also, sorry for the late update, I was way from my computer after the initial hours of posting the OT. :/
Yes. I remember the whole issue from the kickstarter. The reason that I'm using the original version is one of availability. Larian has been great disseminating footage and interacting with the community; but when it comes to static promotional materials, they have been a bit lacking. When they redid the image, they never released a full version suitable for my purposes. Theoretically, since all they did was rework her abdomen, replacing the OT version with the revised Scarlett could be done with Photoshop and a graphics tablet. I don't have a tablet, well a working one anyway, right now. So it would be dependent on the generosity of a third party at this point.
Also, sorry for the late update, I was way from my computer after the initial hours of posting the OT. :/
Yes. I remember the whole issue from the kickstarter. The reason that I'm using the original version is one of availability. Larian has been great disseminating footage and interacting with the community; but when it comes to static promotional materials, they have been a bit lacking. When they redid the image, they never released a full version suitable for my purposes. Theoretically, since all they did was rework her abdomen, replacing the OT version with the revised Scarlett could be done with Photoshop and a graphics tablet. I don't have a tablet, well a working one anyway, right now. So it would be dependent on the generosity of a third party at this point.
CRPG GAF turns out when it counts. My Might & Magic X thread was surprisingly large as well, even more so since I created it and I have a talent for making threads nobody gives a singular fuck about.
nonadventurer
Neo Member
It helped that Might & Magic X was a pretty good game, I guess! Just like this one is shaping up to be pretty good (possibly even great), too.
I just launched the beta again. I don't want to spoil myself but I wanted to have an idea of what my starting builds were going to look like. What has everyone decided to start with? Just a general outline is fine, no spoilers from the rest of the game please.
While I was taking a look at the graphics options I really appreciate the fact there is separate options for everything within post-processing. Too many games lump it all together within one setting, it's annoying. Additionally, if you're going to use a post-processing AA method I'm glad they at least have SMAA or several methods to choose from. Might & Magic X recently surprised me in this by having quite a few different PPAA methods to choose from. Finally, an in-game frame rate limiter is always welcome.
While I was taking a look at the graphics options I really appreciate the fact there is separate options for everything within post-processing. Too many games lump it all together within one setting, it's annoying. Additionally, if you're going to use a post-processing AA method I'm glad they at least have SMAA or several methods to choose from. Might & Magic X recently surprised me in this by having quite a few different PPAA methods to choose from. Finally, an in-game frame rate limiter is always welcome.
The bug report at 14:00 is incredible.
The duck.
Look at what she makes.
She's an imperial wide.
The duck was fat
That just means it's liver is ready to be harvested.
But, yeah I understood what the QA was critiquing.
Id prefer Saints Row romance options.
LurkerPrime
Member
They're the same thing.
Zandalor the mage has been in Divine Divinity and Divinity 2, and will most likely be in this game as well, since you can see his silhouette in the box art, along with Arhu in cat form
I love GOG for all those boni.
JumpJeff84
Member
Aw yiss, this is gonna be good! Played enough of the beta to know it looks amazing
I would have been there man but I was dealing with a 1 year old at the time. He sleeps a little better now; feels good to be back into gaming.
It's hard to imagine anyone imagining Divine Divinity being a better name. Must've been some completely crazy idiot.
I like Divine Divinity. D: It emphasized that the Divinity is extra divine!
OK - had an hour to play with it tonight and got to the bridge just outside the first town.
I really want to go on but I'm going to save it for my first play through. That first 60 minutes was fun but I dont want to spoil the rest of the game. I'm convinced I'm going to enjoy based upon these first few minutes.
My absolutely favourite thing is the battle system. It feels so relaxed yet specific. If I want to use a spell I know exactly how many points it will take, what will happen, when it will happen and why it's important. Most games make this stuff incredibly difficult to feel out.
Also, that first dungeon is a fantastic opener for some of the more creative systems in the game.
Much fun was had.
I really want to go on but I'm going to save it for my first play through. That first 60 minutes was fun but I dont want to spoil the rest of the game. I'm convinced I'm going to enjoy based upon these first few minutes.
My absolutely favourite thing is the battle system. It feels so relaxed yet specific. If I want to use a spell I know exactly how many points it will take, what will happen, when it will happen and why it's important. Most games make this stuff incredibly difficult to feel out.
Also, that first dungeon is a fantastic opener for some of the more creative systems in the game.
Much fun was had.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
How come I can't raise lockpicking beyond lvl 1?
I'm pretty sure you need 2 skill points to raise a skill to level 2, 3 to level 3, etc, but I'm half-asleep so I would remember that wrong.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Ah right, that's good to know.
Seems my first 15 points are already locked by Man-at-arms or however that talent is called that lets you learn new warrior stuff. Or at least till I'm level 3 for Phoenix Dive goodness.
They changed the skill system some patches ago. I haven't tried it so take everything I say with a grain of salt, but it seems you don't need to level up men-at-arms at a high level to get the more powerful skills, but let you have new active skills.
For example, men-at-arms level 1 let you have 3 warrior skills, level two adds... 2 more? and so on. You can unlearn your skills freely, but you need a skill book to learn it again. I think high level men-at-arms make you skills cost less AP and have shorter CD, but again, I haven't tried the new system, so I'm not sure.
EDIT: From the changelog that changed that:
EDIT 2: ForkTong, one of the developers, explains the change and why they did it: http://www.larian.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=495329#Post495329 and http://www.larian.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=498474#Post498474