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DmC |OT| No, F*ck You!
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I wouldnt read so much into it as the ad was run with every showing of resident evil
That's pretty reasonable I guess. In fact, that's too reasonable for Capcom
I wanna say they had reasonable expectations for Dogma too. I don't think they met them, but they weren't ridiculous.
Yu Narukami
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For those living in Europe, amazon.fr sells DmC for 45.
Unspeakable Evil
Member
How much did Dogma reach?
over 1 million.
For me it was surprising since it was the first vg ad I saw in a movie theater over here, since then it has been a PSASBR before almost every movie for about the last 3 months.
I remember reading 10M copies for Dragon Dogma
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Crossover fighting game Street Fighter x Tekken will move two million, open world fantasy action game Dragon's Dogma will shift 1.5 million, and Dead Rising 2 Off the Record, a re-imagining of Dead Rising 2 starring Frank West, will sell 800,000 units.
call_kotaku
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Was this ever amended, or was I just confusing it with RE6 underperforming?
Riposte
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NeoGAF has this thing where it loves going nuts over developer comments, even if they are just fantasies made out loud.
RE6's number was adjusted, DmC's 2 million is still on track.
kunonabi
Member
Did the Dead Rising 2 remake hit that mark?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
They said DR2 sold 2 million, as well as MvC3
Japan exclusive Monster Hunter Freedom 3 sold 4.6 million units, followed by Dead Rising 2's 2.2 million and Marvel vs. Capcom 3's two million.
As for their respective expansions, IDK. I do know SFxT(they blamed fighting game oversaturation), Operation Raccoon City, and RE6 fell short of their initial sales expectations.
As for DmC, 2m sounds about right.
MVC3 sold a bit over 2 million and the expansion sold 600K.
RE6's sales projections were revised from 7 million to 6 million.
And REOC actually did pretty well.. it sold like 2 million.
SFxT sold like 1.5 million, it fell short of its 2 million expectation.
DR2: OTR fell way short of 800K.
RE6's sales projections were revised from 7 million to 6 million.
And REOC actually did pretty well.. it sold like 2 million.
SFxT sold like 1.5 million, it fell short of its 2 million expectation.
DR2: OTR fell way short of 800K.
call_kotaku
Member
I seem to remember an adjustment for sales projections at some point in DmC's production, but I guess I'm mistaken.
Surprising that they expect it to sell about as much as DMC4, maybe less, so I'm curious how the budgets of the two games would compare to one another. DmC looks like it's had a troubled production, but I wonder if it was expensive as well.
call_kotaku
Member
10 million is pretty hilarious, I'm sad that I missed that.
The 2 million is lifetime, not fiscal year/quarter, right?
paolo11
Member
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU............................
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Well, he doesn't have Dante's moveset, so he can't deal with those Red/Blue enemies, or the chain pull thing. Probably needs his own separate mode(as DLC of course)
paolo11
Member
If they make a separate BP mode for Vergil, that would be great.
The question is that, would they do it?
Should have been top right Dante from the start instead of forcing Tameem down player's throats.
Seriously, if we put the weak fighting system aside, the meltdown wouldn't have been so terrible.
I had more fun playing DMC 3 SE HD last year than any game apart from P4 Golden.
call_kotaku
Member
Capcops took down the ending leak, so no more spoiling
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by finding out there was actually nothing worth spoiling
I don't see the point of putting DMC3 Dante in DmC. DMC3 Dante's design was never considered the best design for Dante to begin with and every DMC game has a different Dante. It was to be expected that they would re-design Dante but they went a bit overboard.
I honestly think that the Dante that they have now but with the hairstyle of that DMC3 Dante pic would've been an acceptable re-design. In fact I would venture a guess and say the design they gave to Capcom probably looked like that as well.
I honestly think that the Dante that they have now but with the hairstyle of that DMC3 Dante pic would've been an acceptable re-design. In fact I would venture a guess and say the design they gave to Capcom probably looked like that as well.
craigrushforth
Member
May be worth tweeting @NinjaTheory. I'll probably do the same
If I cared about the DMC lore that much then this would make me livid.So the game released early. Shame the problems from the demo are still present.Also a shame that Dante being half angel, Sparda being a peasant and Eva an Angel amounts to absolutely nothing
They changed up the lore, characters and background story so much... yet it didn't amount to anything. They didn't push the barrier or take the story to a new direction. It was all just change for the sake of change.
Ein Bear
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It's a bit odd that the DMC3 version has sort of become the 'official' look of the old Dante (appearing in MvC3 and stuff) when it's his worst design. Heirarchy of Dante designs: DMC2 > DMC4 > DMC1 > DMC3
call_kotaku
Member
Seeing how differently Dante was portrayed in the initial announcement, I can't help but think that Capcom got cold feet and tried to make as much of it the same as they could. I honestly don't think that having Vergil in this game was something NT initially wanted. If anything, NT should try to avoid creating unfavorable direct comparisons to the departed franchise, but unfortunately I think that's what a lot of their design decisions amounted to. Having Vergil and a lot of the old mechanics in mutated forms back in the game just sets up the same character dynamics and gameplay cues as the original, and with less refinement, but it was probably going to feel tired and derivative no matter what.
It reminds me of Ultimate X-men, where it was so amazingly refreshing for a couple of issues but all they did for the rest of the series was reintroduce characters and end up back where they started. Did they go through all this trouble just to get rid of Nero and Trish?
There's only one DmC game, and it hasn't released yet.
Design wise he wasn't great but he had the best weapon load out out of all the game and his rendition in Marvel was excellent because of it. Plus the higher poly model in MVC3 makes the design look better than before for some reason. Also Dante's face in Marvel looks older like DMC1/DMC2 Dante.
Trying to explain those characters just creates more plot holes anyway. For DmC2 they should at least bring back Lady, that was a decent character at least.
Capcom wants to buy NT? We shall see if they feel the same a month or two from now. I know the game hasn't released or reviewed by major critics but as it stands the franchise will grow more from a DMC5 then it ever will from a DmC2 and I bet Capcom feel the same though they are not willing to admit it now. They backtracked so much; original vision and sales goal that ultimately they knew they made the wrong decision but now have to go through with it.
So DmC2 will just be another DMC3-4 wannabe?
So DmC2 will just be another DMC3-4 wannabe?
Buckethead
Banned
call_kotaku
Member
I assume MVC3 chose DMC3 Dante because they intended Vergil to be in the game from the beginning. Did Neo_G work on DMC3 or just 4?
A lot of Lady's appeal is that Dante didn't play along with her gloomy seriousness, and her arc was a good contrast to Dante's; her climbing up the tower like Adam West Batman while Dante did his motorcycle fuckery was a great sequence. I don't think any of that would work with new Dante, however.
So it has come to my attention people who are saying DmC has a good ending say so because
People who work with NT never want to work with them again
they feel it sets it up for a sequel 0_o Since when are cliffhangers a good thing!?
People who work with NT never want to work with them again
?
The style meter was one of the hallmarks of the series, it was fun to create combos and have an S rank in the mission end screen. It made you want to improve, learn how to play the game and really enjoy the battle system. Since it's broken, and there's no confirmation of a fix, you don't have to try that hard anymore, making the game lose some of its appeal to me.
Vinterbird
Member
Figuring they are trying to mature their own internal writing staff and not hire from the outside. Perhaps they feel they have learned enough from the pro's to go at it thelselves
He's drawing a distinction between "Devil May Cry" and "DmC"
Unspeakable Evil
Member
DmC is already a DMC1 and DMC3 wannabe.
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