Well watching a Ninja Theory game is half of playing it.
I have a pretty clear understanding of the gameplay. Most people who are interesting in DmC are interested in the story. I don't need to play it to speak out about that.
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DmC |OT| No, F*ck You!
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Well watching a Ninja Theory game is half of playing it.
I have a pretty clear understanding of the gameplay. Most people who are interesting in DmC are interested in the story. I don't need to play it to speak out about that.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Putting a new spin on the term "Video Review"
BadAss2961
Member
That song is classic though. Especially the 2nd half.
Late game? Is the game like 4 hours long?
around 7 1/2 hours on normal for me. the ingame stats only count the gameplay time, without cutscenes.
BeautifulMemory
Member
Marvel's soundtrack is really fantastic, in my opinion.
I really liked Devils Never Cry in general, and I like Dante's theme in UMvC3. I think it worked really well in the opening of the game.
BeautifulMemory
Member
you mean in DMC3 or in MvC3?
I am assuming you are talking about DMC3...If so I absolutely agree. The first 10-20 seconds of that song with the editing of Dante and Vergil swinging their swords under the moon at the top of the tower...
To steal from TheSeks
Sorry, in DMC3's opening "attract" video. It may have just been a trailer, but I liked the part where that music kicked up. I think this is it: http://youtu.be/KmeMu8qb_t4?t=1m56s
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
Just got done playing through DMC 1-4 before firing up DmC, and the new DmC is pretty awesome.
It's hard to believe why Capcom would turn a blind eye to the amazing combat system of 4, but that doesn't make DmC's combat bad, it's just different. Same to be said for the whole game, the tone, the feel, and the combat isn't really similar to the original Devil May Cry series. But damn is it fantastic.
It's hard to believe why Capcom would turn a blind eye to the amazing combat system of 4, but that doesn't make DmC's combat bad, it's just different. Same to be said for the whole game, the tone, the feel, and the combat isn't really similar to the original Devil May Cry series. But damn is it fantastic.
Gotcha. So you did not play it. Yeah, I would assume it is a pretty boring action game TO WATCH.
But when playing it, especially on the second half when there is amazing enemy variety present (with 3-4 types of mobs on you PLUS at least 2 of those have semi-enraged stances, and colored enemies are not even in the equation in this), the player is actually required to think, time attacks well, and not just mash stuff. I doubt that comes across from watching random streams.
Gotcha. So you did not play it. Yeah, I would assume it is a pretty boring action game TO WATCH.
But when playing it, especially on the second half when there is amazing enemy variety present (with 3-4 types of mobs on you PLUS at least 2 of those have semi-enraged stances, and colored enemies are not even in the equation in this), the player is actually required to think, time attacks well, and not just mash stuff. I doubt that comes across from watching random streams.
All that stuff was clear to me watching it, and besides the colored enemies are not something new to the series. I don't find it special. The fact a player can't simply "mash buttons" is not a strong argument to me.
Again, I was speaking more to the story anyway.
I feel I am in the home stretch of the game and I can't help but feel that the game has lost some steam. I am ready for this game to be over already...
Mission#15 was pretty ass
and Mission#16 is really boring except for
. I like 17 though, the environments are really nice here.
The story is definitely nothing special. The cutscenes are for the most part boring and something that I will definitely be skipping over without thinking about them. The opening cutscene of Mission#15 was pretty bad and very cliche. Thankfully fighting multiple enemy types is fun.
Mission#15 was pretty ass
(it was a 2 minute chase mission)
Dreamrunners/Drakavacs/Rage pair making things interesting
The story is definitely nothing special. The cutscenes are for the most part boring and something that I will definitely be skipping over without thinking about them. The opening cutscene of Mission#15 was pretty bad and very cliche. Thankfully fighting multiple enemy types is fun.
BeautifulMemory
Member
I really appreciate you going back to the roots of the franchise and play through them again. As I watched your videos (every single one from DMC1 to your uploads of DMC4 for now) I was happy to see you and Matt take in the games for what they were, good and bad, and to see what the games were trying to accomplish and how to the games have evolved.
And like you said, this isn't a black/white "you like DMC so you must be against DmC" or "DMC is outdated" or "people just hate change"...with the new game coming out too often people turn against the old DMCs with the reductionist views on cutscenes, story, character development, gameplay mechanics, etc.
Again, it was nice to see you and Matt play through all the games. Every battle against Vergil (1 or 3) made me lol
J_Macgrady
Member
I'm starting to realize that there's probably nothing wrong with this game, it's just that it's not a Japanese action game anymore and I'm having a hard time enjoying the demo because of it. Capcom were being serious when they meant that this was designed with a different audience in mind. It hurts that it had to be my favorite franchise, but so be it. Bayonetta 2 and MGR are coming out so it's whatever.
I can see why people are enjoying it. I just can't see myself wanting to do rank runs in this game the way I would if I were playing Bayonetta, NG, Viewtiful Joe, etc.
I can see why people are enjoying it. I just can't see myself wanting to do rank runs in this game the way I would if I were playing Bayonetta, NG, Viewtiful Joe, etc.
Yeah, the story is nothing special. It is not horrible as the fuck you crowd would want it to be, and it also has a few great moments (
The capture of Kat, for one
Freezasaurus
Member
I'm still undecided on this one. But the abundance of grappling in the demo was a real turn-off. Is there that much of it in the full game?
Initial "review" coming in a couple of hours but yeah the game definitely does not suck. It's a pretty good/solid action game with good pacing (*cough* DS2 *cough*) but it disappoints in the actual non-game parts that are characters, writing and story. Also the whole feel of the game is different from the previous DMC games so many comparisons aren't really apt.
Full review will come after I beat DMD mode though as that mode is what this game is about.
There is a SHIT TON of grappling in the whole game. It's pretty mind numbing but thankfully non of the platforming segments are frustrating.
BeautifulMemory
Member
you are working on the DMD already? Does the game deliver on other aspects of gameplay besides combat, like level design, pacing, or platforming?
Glass Rebel
Member
Yeah, the story is nothing special. It is not horrible as the fuck you crowd would want it to be, and it also has a few great moments (), but it is not "Oscar-level writing", lolThe capture of Kat, for one
It's like you've put all your proud souls into your persecution complex.
Oh btw, it is either Stockholm-syndrome or I find myself liking the stages more and more as I replay them.
Oh yeah. It is not like if you read the thread, half of it is...oh wait.
Oh yeah. It is not like if you read the thread, half of it is...oh wait.
Freezasaurus
Member
I may have to pass, then. Or wait until it's $20 or something. It's not like there aren't a ton of other games coming out in the first half of this year anyway.
Oh the spammable charging Aquila move?
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
what id like to know is how it compares to NG3 on MN and Darksiders 2 on hard.
BadAss2961
Member
lol. That song will never be the same again.
BeautifulMemory
Member
Oh btw, it is either Stockholm-syndrome or I find myself liking the stages more and more as I replay them.
Oh yeah. It is not like if you read the thread, half of it is...oh wait.
People are discussing the game...no one is really talking about the "fuck you" scene as the center of discussion. People who have the game, like yourself, are sharing their thoughts on it. People who don't have the game are equally sharing their thoughts on available footage. No one is really out to trash the game.
Game sounds a lot like the demo. I had a ton of fun with the combat but the platforming, grappling, and cutscenes are nothing to write home about. Probably another DMC4 experience where I'll only be touching Bloody Palace after awhile.
Fine with me but it still seems like a reboot that didn't manage to improve the core experience.
Fine with me but it still seems like a reboot that didn't manage to improve the core experience.
Glass Rebel
Member
I just want to play the game mang.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I've been watching the stream off and on, it's crazy how you can totally lock down all but the biggest enemies with that thing, even on DMD. You can hit that Blue DemonDog thing with it every five seconds and focus your attention on the red one.
It seems absurdly powerful. Especially since you can charge the next round trip while the first one is still out.
Yeah. Best thing about it? You do not even need to charge it to lock down an enemy for 5-8 seconds.
But..it is parriable by enemies. And you can hit yourself with it against certain enemies
I've seen enemies going out of it - the enraged dog for example ignored it a few times, even though the Aquila was on it.
Also, against half of the enemies, getting them in a lockable stance is half the battle. You get a round trip on someone, then it is time for dat air combo (or for anything else
)At least as good as DS2 IMO. Haven't played much of NG3 to comment.
Drek wins again because he can parry RT back at Dante.
I'd say the game is pretty much meeting expectations of rational, reasonable people who judge games based on their merits.
BeautifulMemory
Member
and we all have our standards on how we judge this game. As far I can see we are all discussing the game
Exactly. I'm glad this game just isn't a total disaster and there are some decent things to like about it.
People have been assuming "worst case scenario" for this since day 1 reveal, but it's refreshing to see that they didn't fuck it up nearly as bad as almost everyone assumed they would.
It's missed and the game should've had it. I can't talk about it without bringing up examples but that would be spoilers. Basically there were a lot of sections in the game where I thought "man lock on would've been great here". Just being able to keep focus on someone like Drek would've been amazing to have.
And this is just on Neph, I feel it's going to be a hindrance on DMD as well.
Kablooey is pretty awesome for combos and breaking shields plus you can stack the needles.
PepperJack
Banned
Seems this game is turning out to be somewhere between DMC 3 and 4.
I laugh at anyone who thinks DMC4 was a well-rounded, great game. It had next to no story, meh bosses (save for Credo Angelo) and bland environments/game world. The fact that you had to go back through the same levels in reverse due to some lazy game development didn't help either. The combat however, was spectacular and kept me playing that game for a while (there was nothing comparable besides NG at the time).
This game it already looks like there is a story, the design is great - what remains to be seen is if it has that staple DMC addicting combat system, or is it overly dumbed down to appeal to a broader audience. That might just the deciding factor for the hardcore series vets (of which I am not one).
I laugh at anyone who thinks DMC4 was a well-rounded, great game. It had next to no story, meh bosses (save for Credo Angelo) and bland environments/game world. The fact that you had to go back through the same levels in reverse due to some lazy game development didn't help either. The combat however, was spectacular and kept me playing that game for a while (there was nothing comparable besides NG at the time).
This game it already looks like there is a story, the design is great - what remains to be seen is if it has that staple DMC addicting combat system, or is it overly dumbed down to appeal to a broader audience. That might just the deciding factor for the hardcore series vets (of which I am not one).
Blood Diamonds
Banned
Err... question...
Watched a video of the final boss fight... and the way the screen cuts-off when Dante's eye turn red... is that really how it ends? Do the credits roll after that?
There is some conversation between Dante/Vergil at the end after which he slices up a portal to another dimension and vanished. Then Kyrie says some cheesy ass anime dialogue of "you are you... you are Dante!" Then credits roll.
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