I turned off the game and went on to GAF to write my review. Is there some hidden stuff in it? I heard people say there's a clip of some guy at NT flipping the bird at you.
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DmC |OT| No, F*ck You!
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Well, it had a pretty entertaining behind the scenes montage that ended with a NT dude throwing the bird while riding away on a skateboard.
Oh, DmC Vergil is terrible now? Why?
The Friendly Monster
Member
Not sure if that is a member of staff at NT, think it might be one of the musicians.
His stupid fat face. I don't like his look outside of his garb.
Knux-Future
Banned
I like his design but his personality is extremely lackluster. He doesn't seem menacing, bad ass or even threatening. Barely even has a shred of being a villainous character. Maybe the Downfall DLC will make him more bad ass/villainous but right now he's a wimpy push over.
This is fucking Vergil. Cuts up a demon's face in 4 pieces, uppercuts his body to the fucking roof and cuts it in half with the flick of his heel. And not a single fuck was given.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
So IGN did a Top 10 DMC boss list
It's terrible
well at least they got #1 right, but that was a gimmie
It's terrible
10. Phantom from Devil May Cry
9. Savior from Devil May Cry 4
8. Mundus from Devil May Cry
7. Angelo Credo from Devil May Cry 4
6. Agni & Rudra from Devil May Cry 3
5. Bob Barbas from DmC: Devil May Cry
4. Nightmare from Devil May Cry
3. Echidna from Devil May Cry 4
2. Berial from Devil May Cry 4
1. Vergil from Devil May Cry 3
9. Savior from Devil May Cry 4
8. Mundus from Devil May Cry
7. Angelo Credo from Devil May Cry 4
6. Agni & Rudra from Devil May Cry 3
5. Bob Barbas from DmC: Devil May Cry
4. Nightmare from Devil May Cry
3. Echidna from Devil May Cry 4
2. Berial from Devil May Cry 4
1. Vergil from Devil May Cry 3
well at least they got #1 right, but that was a gimmie
I am pretty sure DmC Vergil is not a fully fledged villain in the story. He starts becoming one around the end, but that is about it, imho. Yeah, here is to hoping that Downfall DLC actually follows him after the events of the first game.
Turned it off at Savior making the top 10 list.
Ok I lied and saw the whole thing. Echidna and Bob should not be on that list at all. Plus they cheated hardcore by putting Nelo Angelo and Vergil together.
The definitive DMC top 10 boss list:
1) Vergil DMC3
2) Nelo Angelo
3) Credo Angelo
4) Agni and Rudra
5) Phantom
6) Berial
7) Dante
8) Beowulf
9) Cerberus
10) Mundus
DMC2 gets honorary mentions for 2 good bosses: Despair Embodied and Bolverk. DmC gets mention for the final boss fight which I can't spoil right now. But none of these are top 10 material.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Just know that Bob Barbas is there, and Echinda is in the top 3, along with Berial
Also, no Nelo Angelo
Savior should be nowhere near that list.
Square Triangle
Member
"Not in a million years", at least NT has a sense of humor about it!
As someone who is supposed to be Vergil he's terrible because he has just about nothing in common personality wise with his name sake.
As a character taken on his own he's terrible because of what happens at the end.
robotzombie
Member
okay on mission 5 I believe
how the hell do you reach the floating cargo box thing with the blue thread door you gotta break open with osiris?
the succubus one where you are in the virility factory
#1 is right, and at least Credo is on the list...
But Savior, WTF.
Not that big of a fan of
his sniper rifle abortion.
He is not supposed to be Vergil any more than DmC Dante is supposed to be DMC Dante. In a reboot/Ultimate universe, not so much.
I find the events of the ending well set up, that was the least problematic part of this game's story.
Everything involving Mundus/Lilith and that horrible exchange scene, that is more likely the source of issues with me...
KingItachi
Member
The swords need to lower.
They lumped Nelo Angelo together with Vergil for #1. That's sort of cheating IMO. Mechanically there are a lot of differences between the 2 boss fights to warrant different placing.
Savior, Echidna and Bob don't belong on the list. I feel Beowulf, Dante and Cerberus outclass them.
itwasTuesday
He wasn't alone.
Did he just say Bryel.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Thank you for listing Cerberus, had some...cool dialog with Dante.
In scale it's probably the best boss fight but it's gimmicks upon gimmicks stacked all in one boss fight.
It's more similar to a GoW boss.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I always really liked Nevan myself
Fuck Beowulf.
Agreed, friend. Then the platforming starts. I probably would have given this a 9 if the platforming was cut down. As it stands now it makes the mission quality very hit or miss. Some are amazing, some I never want to see again.
Agreed, friend. Then the platforming starts. I probably would have given this a 9 if the platforming was cut down. As it stands now it makes the mission quality very hit or miss. Some are amazing, some I never want to see again.
It's a good boss fight but just like Griffon it's too pattern based. Like both of the bosses shoot various patterns of projectiles (like old school side scroll shooter games) and you just dodge them appropriately to get in. Still great boss fights overall... people don't know that there are SO many ways to take down Nevan. That fight has a surprising amount of depth to it.
Hint: Nevan against Nevan is a GOOD idea!
ShinobiFist
Banned
Yup, very game sounding.
We don't have any of those three stores here.
badcrumble
Member
Yeah, Nevan and Griffin are my two honorable mentions. I might rank either of them above Mundus, to be honest. Apart from that, I agree with Dahbomb's list entirely, except for the inclusion of the Dante fight (which always felt too weird and non-DMC to me).
He is not supposed to be Vergil any more than DmC Dante is supposed to be DMC Dante. In a reboot/Ultimate universe, not so much.
I find the events of the ending well set up, that was the least problematic part of this game's story.It was foreshadowed quite well, and lack of detailed communication regarding the "endgame plans" made it possible. It does not make Vergil a bad character, it just makes him an introvert oneEverything involving Mundus/Lilith and that horrible exchange scene, that is more likely the source of issues with me...
The twist isn't what ruins him, I was expecting that to happen. What ruins him is how he conducts himself during the ending.
If he wants to rule the humans fine, all he has to do is say nothing and wait for them to come to him, with demons running around it's harder to think of someone better to put in charge than the guy who destroyed Mundus and his system. Instead he broaches the topic in the most idiotic manner possible at the worst moment possible. It's because of him that Dante develops the way he does, it destroys his credibility as an intelligent person to think his brother would have no issues with his plan. Not only that there's no reason for them to fight, Dante isn't racing Vergil to Mundus' secret mind control ray or anything that would add a sense of urgency to make fighting right then necessary, it's something that two characters portrayed as being so close should be able to talk out. It makes their friendship hollow to turn instantly to murder like that.
Always felt the Dante fight was underrated. Only thing it was missing was some of the drama of the Vergil fights.
It's in my personal top 10 list. Whenever I see people make these list they always forget about it for some reason. The only reason why the Dante fight isn't higher because it has quite a lot of AI holes in it but other than that... it probably has the most tools out of any AI boss that I know of. It also lacked the drama/build up of a Vergil fight so I guess that's why people don't remember it well.
Game is fucking awesome, music and mo caps are excellent. I keep replaying the first mission for collection purposes and to get fully acclimated with the controls. Been upgrading like a sonofabitch. New Dante is like Hayden Christensen mixed with Garcia Hotspur. What an eclectic mix.
Never seen such a raw sexual and sleazy introduction to game like this before. Very well done. Applause.
Never seen such a raw sexual and sleazy introduction to game like this before. Very well done. Applause.
PIMPBYBLUD
Member
Just finished the first level and I am liking this game very much! My local GS had no more shelf copies and only pre-orders when I went in this evening. Game seems to be selling well so far.
That's standard practice for Gamestop. On the first day, they'll only have enough for reservations in order to condition their customers into making pre-orders. It's a long term strategy. They'll have more copies in a few days.
badcrumble
Member
Yeah, it's got an immense moveset, and I do love that about it. It's just that it doesn't feel properly built for the game - Dante reacts weirdly to the Devil Bringer, and I've always had tons of trouble beating him "stylishly" even though he's not super hard to kill normally. I dunno.
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