Delusional. Guy has completely bought into his own hype.
Edit: Speculation then. Yea if Sanders comes out and says something this crazy. He's bought into his own hype.
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DNC agrees to give Sanders greater influence over party platform
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Delusional. Guy has completely bought into his own hype.
Edit: Speculation then. Yea if Sanders comes out and says something this crazy. He's bought into his own hype.
jack_package_200
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So CNN was just speculating...
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT CNN WHY YOU DO THIS
Bernie might not be trying to force control over Hillary's cabinet. Stand down
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT CNN WHY YOU DO THIS
Bernie might not be trying to force control over Hillary's cabinet. Stand down
Losers don;t get to pick out the rings
excelsiorlef
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NullPointer
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To be clear that link is to a reporter saying what he personally thinks may be Bernie's plans. This isn't coming from the Sanders campaign.
jack_package_200
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A lot of us don't like his policies.
A lot of us started hating him when he became a sore loser who tried to explain his failures on corruption and rigged process and throwng gas onto the fraud conspiracy theories
Sounds good to me!
Some solid picks. It's about time someone tried to even out the toxic hold Israel has on the US in terms of information bias, politics, and decision making, and instead bringing better balance to it all. Credit to Bernie for having the gal for it.
Some solid picks. It's about time someone tried to even out the toxic hold Israel has on the US in terms of information bias, politics, and decision making, and instead bringing better balance to it all. Credit to Bernie for having the gal for it.
CNN is garbage as always.
excelsiorlef
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Cornel West?
Lmao. Thank god Sanders isn't going near the Presidency.
Btw Clinton named 4 women, DWS 2 and Sanders only 1
But let's be honest, the mud-slinging started from the Hillary camp, despite the patronising jokes some are making here, she has a political dynasty behind her.
Most of all, Clinton supporters made up their minds regardless, something that we accuse Republicans of doing all the time.
Captain Pants
Killed by a goddamned Dredgeling
I'm not trying to be confrontational here at all. I just always hear 'Hillary started it', and I honestly can't think of any serious attack she's thrown his way. That could be because I'm in my own echo chamber, but I'd love some specifics on what she did to start this.
Don't do it,you're gonna be waiting forever Captain.
Nothing but crickets and silence await you.
excelsiorlef
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NeuAscension
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This is the thing, if Sanders were to get the nomination and make it to the presidency you'd actually have an environmentalist heading up the EPA, and other progressive people like Robert Reich in Department of Labor or working on economic issues. etc...so much less of a revolving door crowded with lobbyists and corporate sector figures.
Vigilant Walrus
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How so?
His grassroots movement has gotten further against the established two-party system than anyone before. Last time Nader ran, he had something like 3% of the vote. If at anything, he as a atheist, socialist independent lone wolf who was also an unknown has brought up a massive topic of conversation since this election started.
As far as political activism goes it has really been historic. I'd say he has gotten something done by simply running. It's not cool to downplay what he has achieved what a weird turn of events it has been. Relatively speaking being behind by 3 million votes is still a very impressive victory, given everything he has had against him.
SolicitorPirate
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Little upset about the idea of a party acquiescing to threats. This creates a worrying precedent
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Don't worry yet. Sanders will get less concessions simply due to his bullshit rhetoric about Clinton and the DNC.
His grass roots movement IS part of the established two party system! He's competing in the democratic primary using democratic data for democratic votes! He's not an independent, he's a democrat!
And there have been far more successful insurgency campaigns within both parties before. 2008 springs to mind?
excelsiorlef
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So for those at home Clinton and DWS's choices are both 2/3s women or 66.666666....% Sanders is 1/5 or all of 20%.
Clinton and DWS put women on the committee at a rate 3 times higher than Sanders
Clinton and DWS put women on the committee at a rate 3 times higher than Sanders
exmachina64
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That's brilliant.
SolicitorPirate
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Yeah, but he's basically writing the playbook for Gamergate-esque tactics in politics. While I think Sanders would make a terrible president, I'm less concerned about conscessions to him
What I'm worried about is future candidates now that the Dems have basically confirmed threats work
It's not so much pandering to threats as it is the will of a massive portion of your voting base. Many people clearly want a more honest and progressive Democratic party, and this is the DNC making some minor moves towards facilitating that.
What does that have to do with anything? So what if he did? Are you trying to imply this automatically makes him sexiest? To me it's far more poignant he picked some pro Palestinian picks, I mean who in the US usually has the courage to do that?
A Link to the Past
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So Bernie wants to both be anti-establishment, yet he seems content to take charge of establishing this.
I'm specifically talking about the fanboys, GAF wanted him to fail.
I guess his politics just doesn't matter to some.
titiklabingapat
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This is revisionist BS. Hillary and the DNC has been treating Bernie with kid's gloves and have refrained from personal attacks. If you think what is happening now is 'going negative' then I don't know what to tell you if Bernie ever won the nomination and had to face real negative attacks and demolitions from the Republicans.
SolicitorPirate
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Yet more disagreed. The lesson here is that we shouldn't listen to the majority of the base, we should listen to the ones threatening to dox you.
That's exactly what they get for giving in to a tantrum throwing child.
You know exactly what to expect, but they did it anyway. I'll give them a bit of credit for the olive branch and all that, but this is not the first time he has shown these tendencies. They HAD to have known this guy was just going to overstep.
It better be fake. I swear if he so much as whines even a little bit I'm gonna fucking lose it. He doesn't even have a case to really get anything. They can win without him.
Same. Makes me sick.
NullPointer
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God forbid some people disagree, not everyone wanted Clinton to take the throne by default.
Zoe
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Do you think it's wrong that there's not a majority of women on the committee?
excelsiorlef
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Any other tidbits you remember that might be worth mentioning?
SolicitorPirate
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For better or for worse, America is the most powerful and influential country on Earth. Who you elect as President has influence on a global scale.
Right now, watching Trump and Sanders is like being a passenger in the Titanic, watching two captains yelling at each other over which ice berg to ram straight into, and having absolutely no way to do anything about it.
Seriously, it's bad enough the GOP has turned insane. I am honestly begging you guys not to let Sanders do the same thing to the Democrats
Right now, watching Trump and Sanders is like being a passenger in the Titanic, watching two captains yelling at each other over which ice berg to ram straight into, and having absolutely no way to do anything about it.
Seriously, it's bad enough the GOP has turned insane. I am honestly begging you guys not to let Sanders do the same thing to the Democrats
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The Autumn Wind
WTF! why?
Imagine if Clinton demanded that from Obama in 2008.
*sigh*
CNN
NeuAscension
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excelsiorlef
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It was an observation. Calm down.
Also I have to revise.
The quoted post only listed 3 of DWS's people. So he actually named 2 women and 2 men.
So that's 50% or 2 times more than Sanders
Also makes the total 8 men and 7 women with 6 women and 4 men coming from Clinton/DWS and 4 men amd 1 woman from Sanders.
I was hoping Bernie would settle, but he wants the mile instead of the inch.
edit: Or could just be CNN being the usual fire-starters they like being...
Vigilant Walrus
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Given his record as as a independent and that many of his supporters are disenfranchised with the democratic party, I think that most people see him as just an independent who switched to democrat to get on the debates and get further than nader and jill stein and others.
It's closer to the opposite of a ron paul situation where paul as a lib runs on a established platform even though most republicans dont like him. the token was there that even liberals would vote for ron paul because he was against the federal reserve, iraq war and also had plenty of youtube compilations saying shit that made sense.
Obama raised over 600 million dollars. It's a completely different beast from someone running on a campaign like Sanders.
For all his accusations of being idealistic and pure, Sanders himself compromises. If he didn't he wouldn't have registered as a dem for this election I think. He'd just run as a independent and would probably have been as popular as jill stein or less.
He has been pragmatic in the past as well, as shown by republicans respecting (before this election) more than a lot of his democratic colleagues.
Being alone for 30 years for the same cause just gives him a lot of leeway I'd imagine, and that is reinforced when he doesn't get along with the party he is running on.
Chris Hedges hates him for it. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVii98IcUOs ) He'll never forgive him for aligning with the dems, and you can hear his contempt for Bernie in his speeches and interviews, about that if he had any credibility he would have run independently. It's an argument but given how unpopular Bernie has been inside the party, while Hillary/Obama has been popular among democrats, really the approach to think about it, might be that the democrats want to use Bernie regrow a renewed interest in the democratic party by bringing in Sanders.
The Democrats are already diverse, and full of moderate dems who are just moonlighting. When there is only two parties it doesn't seem that crazy to me that you end with a high friction of the political spectrum, but that is exactly why there needs to be more parties.
EDIT; Another interview clip from nov 15, with Nader, essentially saying condemning Sanders if he doesn't take it all the way to november; https://youtu.be/gpppsy2xG0M?t=2m30s < Is this what is playing out now?
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Four out of five of Sander's nominations are ethnic minorities, that's eighty percent! Clinton could only manage three out of six, that's a pretty poor fifty percent.
In other news, small sample sizes are easily unrepresentative.
In other news, small sample sizes are easily unrepresentative.
excelsiorlef
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Get the fuck out of this race.
Aaron Strife
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Everyone knows 53% of statistics are made up.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Sanders' idea of compromise is awfully similar to House Republicans negotiations with Obama.
Suikoguy
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He could have named a lamp post that has a voice chip that repeats "Whatever Sanders Wants is Fine" and it would have been a better choice.
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There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.
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