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[tuna_love]

I can't believe how good of a name poobone is

 

[Zen_Arcade]

The whole Amiibo centric aspect of the game, has turned me off of even buying it.

Hardly anything in the game is affected by Amiibo support. They only unlock some remixed single player levels and I think a few additional 8-Bit mini games to play while you're waiting in the lobby in between multiplayer games.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

It's selling incredibly well in Japan. It's not going to bomb and it sure as hell isn't going to sell like The Wonderful 101 did.

I'm not biggest fan of the game, but I hate seeing games that aren't shovelware sell poorly so I hope it does well. That being said, it selling well in Japan doesn't necessarily mean it will sell well everywhere else. And before someone uses anecdotal evidence of it selling out in stores, let's not pretend Nintendo doesn't undership it's products.


Edit: I'm curious to see where it charts on the May NPD since it only had a few days to sell in May. Unless Nintendo touts it's success, we probably won't have an idea of how well it sold in the US market until the June NPD. Speaking of NPD, is there one for Canada?

 

[OrbitalBeard]

I'm not biggest fan of the game, but I hate seeing games that aren't shovelware sell poorly so I hope it does well. That being said, it selling well in Japan doesn't necessarily mean it will sell well everywhere else. And before someone uses anecdotal evidence of it selling out in stores, let's not pretend Nintendo doesn't undership it's products.

Let's say it ends up selling 200k in Japan and 200k everywhere else. For a Wii U game, that would actually be pretty decent. Definitely not a bomb.

I'm guessing at least 1 million worldwide when all is said and done.

 

[goldenpp72]

I'm not biggest fan of the game, but I hate seeing games that aren't shovelware sell poorly so I hope it does well. That being said, it selling well in Japan doesn't necessarily mean it will sell well everywhere else. And before someone uses anecdotal evidence of it selling out in stores, let's not pretend Nintendo doesn't undership it's products.

Nintendo doesn't under ship software too often, it's all the rest of their stuff that has the problem.

 

[Chezzymann]

I'm not biggest fan of the game, but I hate seeing games that aren't shovelware sell poorly so I hope it does well. That being said, it selling well in Japan doesn't necessarily mean it will sell well everywhere else. And before someone uses anecdotal evidence of it selling out in stores, let's not pretend Nintendo doesn't undership it's products.

The vast majority of people online I see are from japan, (usually like 6 out of the 8 players) so I imagine other regions aren't selling as well.

 

[Cytezan]

I scanned all 3 of my Amiibos today, do I need to beat some of the challenge courses to unlock these?

You need to beat the fourth set of challenges for the amiibo to unlock the mini game.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

The vast majority of people online I see are from japan, (usually like 6 out of the 8 players) so I imagine other regions aren't selling as well.

Really? I tend to see one or two Japanese players in most matches. Sometimes more but the majority of players I've battled with and against weren't from Japan.

 

[SuperPac]

The whole Amiibo centric aspect of the game, has turned me off of even buying it.

None of the games that offer Amiibo support in the first place could be described as "Amiibo-centric" including Splatoon.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

Nintendo doesn't under ship software too often, it's all the rest of their stuff that has the problem.

Really? Because I've seen otherwise. At least in Canada. There are frequent issues with Nintendo product supply in the CanadaGAF thread.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

Oh, and don't remind me of how poorly W101 sold. That still stings.

Edit: Sorry for the double post.

 

[Chezzymann]

Really? I tend to see one or two Japanese players in most matches. Sometimes more but the majority of players I've battled with and against weren't from Japan.

I guess it depends on when you play. I usually play late at night when it would be daytime/noon in japan so that might be it

 

[Sakura]

It's selling incredibly well in Japan. It's not going to bomb and it sure as hell isn't going to sell like The Wonderful 101 did.

Some of the posts in the "wall of shame" are just stuff saying they don't think it will hit 1 million worldwide.
At the moment we have zero official sales numbers, and it is hardly outside the realm of possibility that it sells sub 1 million. It could be a hit in Japan and lukewarm elsewhere, or it could sell a million first month for all we know.
Just don't count your chickens before they hatch.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

I guess it depends on when you play. I usually play late at night when it would be daytime/noon in japan so that might be it

Good point actually. I played late last night/early this morning and there were definitely more Japanese players. I played this afternoon and only saw a few.

Some of the posts in the "wall of shame" are just stuff saying they don't think it will hit 1 million worldwide.
At the moment we have zero official sales numbers, and it is hardly outside the realm of possibility that it sells sub 1 million. It could be a hit in Japan and lukewarm elsewhere, or it could sell a million first month for all we know.
Just don't count your chickens before they hatch.

Unless I missed some, I read exactly two comments saying this. The vast majority said it would be a sales failure.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

Really? I tend to see one or two Japanese players in most matches. Sometimes more but the majority of players I've battled with and against weren't from Japan.

I'd say at least half of the people I play against are Japanese players, which seems very odd because I've usually played online midday EST, which would mean it would be like 1-4AM JST.

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

You also get three new retro minigames to play. One for each figure.

wait what, like the squid jump?

I only have the inkling girl btw.

 

[Terrell]

I'm not biggest fan of the game, but I hate seeing games that aren't shovelware sell poorly so I hope it does well. That being said, it selling well in Japan doesn't necessarily mean it will sell well everywhere else. And before someone uses anecdotal evidence of it selling out in stores, let's not pretend Nintendo doesn't undership it's products.

There's so much denial here in order to hold onto the tattered remains of a negative sales projection.

Splatoon isn't some niche game in a genre that doesn't sell well in the West, so generally speaking, if it sells well there, yeah, you can reasonably expect it to sell well everywhere else.

Also, games are provided to retailers based on what the retailer's corporate purchasing team dictates they are willing to stock for sale within a given period, no more and no less. So if it's out of stock, it's because those retailers did not anticipate a high demand, pure and simple. These aren't amiibo we're talking about, Nintendo has plenty of them to send to retailers.

All that said, we'll likely know by Tuesday just who's right and who's wrong, but literally everything points to it being a sales success. The only remotely debatable point is whether or not it has the potential to be an evergreen seller.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

wait what, like the squid jump?

I only have the inkling girl btw.

Yes.

 

[Sakura]

Unless I missed some, I read exactly two comments saying this. The vast majority said it would be a sales failure.

Sure. Then there are others as well that say things along the lines of 'I hope I'm wrong but I'm just not sure it will do well'. Why would a post like that belong on the wall of shame? Only posts that belong on there IMO are people certain it would fail or sell W101 numbers.
And even then, we should wait till we have concrete numbers. We have no idea how it will perform world wide.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

wait what, like the squid jump?

I only have the inkling girl btw.

Yep. The Squid unlocks Squid Beatz. The other two games are Squid Ball and Squid Racer. I'm not sure which one the Inkling Girl unlocks.

Sure. Then there are others as well that say things along the lines of 'I hope I'm wrong but I'm just not sure it will do well'. Why would a post like that belong on the wall of shame? Only posts that belong on there IMO are people certain it would fail or sell W101 numbers.
And even then, we should wait till we have concrete numbers. We have no idea how it will perform world wide.

I actually don't think a wall of shame makes any sense until we know sales numbers and I agree that it should be reserved for those who said it would be a huge bomb.

 

[Einbroch]

Y'all need to look at a lot of the dates on that "wall of shame". A good amount of them are from before any marketing, the Direct, the events, or the Testfire.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Y'all need to look at a lot of the dates on that "wall of shame". A good amount of them are from before any marketing, the Direct, the events, or the Testfire.

So? It's one thing to say "I don't think it'll be a huge success" and another to say "lol this is going to be the next The Wonderful 101"...even before the marketing kicked in, we've had a year of glowing impressions at multiple trade shows and other events.

 

[QaaQer]

Wall of shame? Jeezuz, remind me not make predictions in Nintendo threads.

 

[Einbroch]

So? It's one thing to say "I don't think it'll be a huge success" and another to say "lol this is going to be the next The Wonderful 101"...even before the marketing kicked in, we've had a year of glowing impressions at multiple trade shows and other events.

Good games don't always sell.

Word of mouth at press events don't really hold sway in sales.

 

[Lexad]

Damn, a wall of shame, reminds me not to ever get TOO far ahead of myself

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Good games don't always sell.

Word of mouth at press events don't really hold sway in sales.

But they usually can help a game sell more copies than The Wonderful 101...

People kneejerk'd big time on this title's chances due to Wii U's performance...it's that simple.

 

[Ivan Amiibo]

Bayonetta 2 was "completely sold out" at launch too.

 

[Deleted member 10571]

I didn't care for it at all like two weeks ago. At this point after the gaf hype I'm close to buying a WiiU + Splatoon pack >_>

Not even Mario managed that this gen.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Lol we don't know total sales numbers and there's already a wall of shame? That's some crazy levels of fanaticism towards a Nintendo IP.

You can't have silly defensivism without silly offensivism and vice versa.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Bayonetta 2 was "completely sold out" at launch too.

Nope. It sold 67% of its initial shipment during its first week.

 

[Sesuadra]

What? You really don't need the Amiibos at all. They unlocked a few challenge stages that just have you going over the single player stages again.

If you want the best costume you need the girl amiibo >.>

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

If you want the best costume you need the girl amiibo >.>

Britney Spears is passé.

 

[Sakura]

If you want the best costume you need the girl amiibo >.>

It's only a 2 star costume though so you'd be tossing it anyway

 

[Einbroch]

Bayonetta 2 was "completely sold out" at launch too.

Actually it was only 66% with 38k sales. Even so, "sold out" means nothing.

 

[QaaQer]

I didn't care for it at all like two weeks ago. At this point after the gaf hype I'm close to buying a WiiU + Splatoon pack >_>

Not even Mario managed that this gen.

GAF hype leads to regret.

 

[Ivan Amiibo]

Nope. It sold 67% of its initial shipment during its first week.

in japan. i was talking about the U.S. and the quotes around "completely sold out" were meant to imply that everyone was reporting it sold out, not implying that actually happened. The actual sales were less than 100k. So it was call for some rationality in this th--hahah who am i kidding

 

[OrbitalBeard]

in japan. i was talking about the U.S. and the quotes around "completely sold out" were meant to imply that everyone was reporting it sold out, not implying that actually happened. The actual sales were less than 100k. So it was call for some rationality in this th--hahah who am i kidding

lol

No one ever claimed Bayo 2 was selling out in North America, aside from maybe a handful of people providing anecdotal evidence. I saw the game at four stores the weekend it released.

For the record, I have absolutely no idea how well this game is selling in NA and EU. I would assume it's doing decently.

 

[sfried]

For the first time ever, I want to buy a damn Amiibo. I assume the Splatoon ones are impossible to find?

For the first time ever, I bought myself a damn Amiibo...well, Amiibos (or is it still Amiibo when plural?). I managed to snag the last Splatoon tri-pack from my mall's Gamestop during release date (since I also work in the same mall). I came during my break, and the clerk was on the phone with someone else asking for it too...

 

[Xaero Gravity]

You can't have silly defensivism without silly offensivism and vice versa.

Touché. I'm just going to no longer partake in the sales discussion until we know the proper sales figures. Last thing I need is another overly defensive fanboy claim that I want to the game to fail.

And for the record, I wasn't referring to you, just in case that's how it came across.

 

[Ivan Amiibo]

lol

No one ever claimed Bayo 2 was selling out in North America, aside from maybe a handful of people providing anecdotal evidence.

lol

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=919003


lol


lol

Spoiler

lol

For the record, I have absolutely no idea how well this game is selling in NA and EU. I would assume it's doing decently.

yet you're apparently ready to fight against any slight warning that maybe it's not time for a wall of shame just yet. The reverse wall of shame may be real.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Touché. I'm just going to no longer partake in the sales discussion until we know the proper sales figures. Last thing I need is another overly defensive fanboy claim that I want to the game to fail.

And for the record, I wasn't referring to you, just in case that's how it came across.

Nah, it's all good but all silly.

Personally I find the sales threads the most boring.

The only reason sales matter to me is that a certain IP or console will sell enough to not go away.

I hope the game sells well enough to be a brand new franchise but beyond that, don't care.

The only thing that I laugh at is the The Wonderful 101 stuff.

That's not a free opinion, it's a lack of common sense.

I could probably sell more copies of a shitty game I made than that really good game sold.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

Nah, it's all good but all silly.

Personally I find the sales threads the most boring.

The only reason sales matter to me is that a certain IP or console will sell enough to not go away.

I hope the game sells well enough to be a brand new franchise but beyond that, don't care.

The only thing that I laugh at is the The Wonderful 101 stuff.

That's not a free opinion, it's a lack of common sense.

I could probably sell more copies of a shitty game I made than that really good game sold.

Too soon

 

[OrbitalBeard]

lol

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=919003


lol


lol

Spoiler

lol

yet you're apparently ready to fight against any slight warning that maybe it's not time for a wall of shame just yet. The reverse wall of shame may be real.

Except the vast majority of people in that thread were able to obtain a copy with no issues. As I said above, anecdotal evidence from a handful that had trouble tracking the game down. I don't even know what you're trying to argue here. I've even stated that a "wall of shame" is pretty useless until sales are out. You seem pretty angry about all of this.

 

[roknin]

yet you'reapparently ready to fight against any slight warning that maybe it's not time for a wall of shame just yet.

Eh? Am I... missing something? Because Orbital clearly said:

I actually don't think a wall of shame makes any sense until we know sales numbers and I agree that it should be reserved for those who said it would be a huge bomb.

EDIT: Beaten by 5 minutes... well dayyum

 

[_Clash_]

so this has sold 150K+digital+ restock in Japan....in 3 days?


That's incred.

 

[_Clash_]

1.5 mil easy

 

[Colonel Mustard]

There's so much denial here in order to hold onto the tattered remains of a negative sales projection.

Splatoon isn't some niche game in a genre that doesn't sell well in the West, so generally speaking, if it sells well there, yeah, you can reasonably expect it to sell well everywhere else.

Also, games are provided to retailers based on what the retailer's corporate purchasing team dictates they are willing to stock for sale within a given period, no more and no less. So if it's out of stock, it's because those retailers did not anticipate a high demand, pure and simple. These aren't amiibo we're talking about, Nintendo has plenty of them to send to retailers.

All that said, we'll likely know by Tuesday just who's right and who's wrong, but literally everything points to it being a sales success. The only remotely debatable point is whether or not it has the potential to be an evergreen seller.

THANK YOU!!

Jesus Christ, someone finally understands how purchasing works.

 

[KnockOneOff]

Well I bought a copy so I'm +1 sale

 

[RagnarokX]

It's only a 2 star costume though so you'd be tossing it anyway

Spyke can upgrade gear if you give him a super sea snail or pay him 30,000g. If you want your favorite gear to be a 3 star it can be.

 

[test_account]

Wonder if it might just manage to edge a number 1 in the UK tomorrow, should be top 3 at least which would be a fantastic result for Nintendo and we might get some clues to its performance in the blurb

Yeah, i hope that they mention some info about the sales performance.