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Do we expect Splatoon to be the next major Nintendo I.P.?

Xaero Gravity

NEXT LEVEL lame™
I just hope all the people that always claimed Nintendo doesn't make new ip have bought this.

Not only new ip but almost a new genre
Uhh why? I mean, I think people saying Nintendo doesn't make new IPs are wrong, but just because it's a new IP doesn't automatically make it a must buy.
 

The Giant

Banned
Question is...are we eating crow, or squid?
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Source

Better make it squid.
 

SmokedMeat

Gamer™
Thanks! I'm going to see if I can talk with the guys at GameStop (they're very friendly at the one by me), about giving me a call when they come in.
I just want one to unlock the bonus stuff.
 

theeraser

Member
OK, so went to Best Buy, Target and Gamestop today and... they are sold out of Splatoon. Completely. Both the game and the Wii U bundle; Best Buy had one but I couldn't get it, as they had a pick up later today.

I don't know if it is just Southern Connecticut, but it looks like it is selling well.
Not sure how close you are to Waterbury, but the Toys-R-Us by the mall has a ton of the game and the Amiibo 3-pack. Picked up both today :)
 

Formless

Member
I think so. The characters/setting has been extremely well received and Miiverse is super active. There's a lot more they can do with this somewhat broken game but it feels like the next big thing, at least for me.
 

OBias

Member
Inkling Girl amiibos are sold out here in Russian stores. Inkling Boy amiibo is a lot less popular for some reason.
 

AdanVC

Member
It better be the next big ip. It's better than Mariokart and Smash Bros.

This is what I wanted to see when talking about Nintendo creating new ip. It's not some minor league shit like Dillon's Rolling Western or Pushmo. Splatoon is just badass, and deserves to sit at the big boy table with Mariokart and Pikmin.

Woahhh this is quite an exciting statement! All indicators right seems that Splatoon surpassed expectations at least in Japan on the first weekend. A brand new IP from Nintendo doing this good is beneficial for everyone on the industry really. It tells publishers and developers that people/customers are totally willing to try out and support new gaming concepts/IPs as long as they are high quality and they are easy to play.
 

ffdgh

Member
Not sure if it's too soon but I'll eat that crow. I actually shocked to see a decent advertising push for this game compared to past examples.
 
I don't know about it being the next major IP. If by major you mean DK/Mario/Zelda, then I'd say no. If you mean Pikmin, then yes.

What I would like to see at E3 is a continued flow of new IPs from Nintendo. I think they've done modestly well with stuff like Pushmo. It would be nice to see something on the level of Splatoon though.
 

Hindl

Member
I don't know about it being the next major IP. If by major you mean DK/Mario/Zelda, then I'd say no. If you mean Pikmin, then yes.

What I would like to see at E3 is a continued flow of new IPs from Nintendo. I think they've done modestly well with stuff like Pushmo. It would be nice to see something on the level of Splatoon though.

I'd naively like to hope that the (unexpected?) positive reception splatoon got after it's initial unveiling maybe gave Nintendo the initiative to greenlight new IPs. Really looking forward to first week numbers. Is 500k worldwide a stretch?
 
When did Miyamoto? Is there a link? Sounds really interesting and I want to use it in the future when people want to contradict his genius.

Miyamoto reveals a teensy bit more information during his Nerdy Nummies appearance.
He explains – with Trinen translating – that the game features “a squid-boy and a squid-girl, but really the squid-girl is the main character.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNUcDkNI24o
https://www.pixeldynamo.com/news/gaming/2014/12/17/44318/shigeru-miyamoto-appears-on-nerdy-nummies/
 

sonto340

Member
I hope for the inevitable Splatoon 2 they add the ability to set load outs with sets of clothes/weapons. Maybe three or four that you could switch between mid match. That really feels like the only incredibly obvious feature missing.
 
The whole Amiibo centric aspect of the game, has turned me off of even buying it.

What are you even talking about, the amiibo stuff is hardly a huge part of the game. Seems like you are not even interested in it if you thought that.

As for the thread, I really f'in hope so. If it does really well(and it's looking like it), a sequel on the NX would be the best thing ever.
 
The whole Amiibo centric aspect of the game, has turned me off of even buying it.

There are some pretty cool unlockables tied to Amiibo but none of them are necessary and the game is a blast without buying a single figure.

I, however, bought all three, because I love Amiibos :O
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
This is the most recent version of the Potential Wall of Shame. I had to make some edits based on the criteria of the responses.

I am expecting slightly better sales than wonderful 101. So no, not a major new IP.

It'll bomb.

It doesn't have Mario in it so I don't expect it to do very well.

It's on Wii U.

So no.

I honestly expect it to flop...

I hope that in wrong though

You mean the next major Nintendo bomba?

Of course not. I'll be amazed if it reaches 1 million.

I mean, did you expect Codename S.T.E.A.M. to be the next big Nintendo IP? The Wonderful 101?

I'm expecting Wonderful 101 levels of bomb.

I expect it to sell around the same as the wonderful 101. At very, very best pikmin 3. And that's me being optimistic. So no I don't think it will.

I'll be legit surprised if this game doesn't bomb. I guess we'd have to discuss what constitutes a bomb though considering the low user base. I should be clear though that the base isn't the reason I think it will bomb. I just don't think the game has a lot of appeal.

But yeah what is considered a bomb in sales for the wii u in terms of numbers.

I doubt it.

I'd be nice if it sold well because I allways like new Nintendo Ip's doing well.
But I don't see it appealing to that many people with it being a shooter focusing on online play on the WiiU. Even the Mario Kart online community got smaller after a few months (before the DLC), and that's was Mario Kart. Also, even kids that play online like basic online features like chat.

I have a WiiU and like it quite a bit, but I have no interest in Splatoon

I doubt it will do well.

This is a game for:

- shooter fans
- that dont need blood
- that dont mind "kiddy" looks
- that dont need voicechat
- that own a Wii U

It'll bomb.
I am expecting slightly better sales than wonderful 101. So no, not a major new IP.
Yep

Maybe about as well as wonderful 101

No it's going to flop. But it will be marketed by Nintendo as the next big one though.

I figure it's going to be a cult classic. Might not even sell enough to warrant a sequel.

Honestly I'm not even sure there is a market for Splatoon. A lot of young kids these days are already playing Call of Duty and talking all kinds of random shit online. I think Mario Kart and Smash are still so popular because you cant find anything as good elsewhere and I don't see Splatoon being able to pull away the younger generation from the already established shooters.

I could of course be horribly wrong but the market just seems so volatile these days.

A major IP that will unfortunately not sell well.

:(

You might see an Inkling as a Assist Trophy in Smash 5

That's about it

I think it'll be a one-and-done series.

Its totally going to flop. It doesnt have anything the mainstream audience want.

lol, no.

If it's any consolation, though, it will do better than Wonderful 101.

i expect it to bomb

Nah I expect it to be the next Wonderful 101

Majority of Nintendo fans will ignore it because Mario and co. ain't there

You can advertise something no one is really interested in as much as you want, people still won't buy it.

Personally I don't think so. I feel like they are coming a few years too late to the shooter game. I know that the game is somewhat unique from other shooters, but will it be a powerhouse to move consoles? I doubt it.

It will probably do average-ok first week sales, then disappear into the vortex of forgotten games hovering somewhere above its epicenter at Konami.

I'm not sure it will sell better than Bayonetta 2.

Its not going to sell hardware. So its only whomever is playing wii-u now. There really is nothing else like it on the system so that will help. Pikmin, Bayo and 101 is probably where is sits in sales. This month they really need to push the campaign part of this game or sales will be worse. Wii-u base is not multiplayer type in general. This really has the a good chance to tank. At best its a moderate success. The bar is pretty low.

It's going to bomb.

They're doing a Splatoon tour I think but I doubt it's going to do much for them. I'm going to wait for a price drop before picking it up.

I'm thinking it will be a light flop. Not terrible but it's not going to do all that well.

I think it'll bomb pretty hard. Not quite 101 bad, but close.

It's a Wii U game that doesn't have Mario, Zelda or Smash in the title. It could be the best game ever. It's still going to bomb. Best case scenario it becomes the Wii U's Tearaway.

At this point I'm in the camp that believes the game will bomb

I think sales wise it will do poorly.

It is not going to attract gamers from PS4/Xbone to get a WiiU to play this. There are WAY more games on those systems that are much more feature rich. Also it doesn't seem very competitive, and more "fun for everyone!" type of game.

I think there is a big deal for this game because its a first for a Nintendo IP to be a "shooter".

Considering how much of the Nintendo fanbase I've encountered over the years that loudly dismissed shooters and online play, I don't really expect it to do all that well, even among Nintendo's diehard crowd.

I predict a bomba, but I hope I'm wrong. Love the artstyle and the amiibos.

Also while the game looks good enough and appears to be fun, I think that it's not my thing. I'm probably not buying this or leaving it to the future.

It's launching on the Wii U...you honestly think it has a chance?


I doubt it. I reckon it'll hit a couple of hundred thousand tops, lifetime. The super-core Nintendo crowd keeping the Wii U on life support will make some noise about it, as they are now.

Nope. It'll get lukewarm sales at best and be forgotten about.

I think it'll be a total bust, but those couple of months the playerbase sticks around are going to be a pretty sweet ride down.

I don't think so. It doesn't seem to babe enough new about it to make it hit and its launching on Wii u this hampering the ability of it to find a large audience.

I feel this game is gonna bomb... don't want it too.. but just feel like it's gonna bomb.. badly.

I was going to type the same exact thing.
At this point the only games on the Wii U I see selling very well are Mario and Zelda games. That's about it.

It will bomb, its a multiplayer game with no voice chat...

no new IPs could ever hope to become major on the WiiU, even less so a game like Splatoon. 200k LT ww tops is my prediction, and that will already be considered a sort of success

I don't expect it to be a major IP. It will probably be niche. Doubt that a sequel will be made either.

A shooter that's geared towards a shooter audience that doesn't buy shooter games? Yep this will be a definite bomb.

Expecting it to bomb big time.

I think it's going to go the way of W101.

I don't want it to, but it seems like everyone "the hype is real!" on GAF it's like dooming a game early.

I hope not though, it looks cool.

I don't think it'll sell very well. The name "Splatoon" + sort of pictures of paintball just looks kind of shovelware or mini-game like at first glance. I just think it's a hard sell unless you really market it hard, and Nintendo won't.

It's releasing on the wii U which is basically dead at this point. Even on a successful console this looks like it would be a niche game but on the wii U is be pretty shocked if t wasn't.

Hoping that isn't the case but I don't like the games chances.

I'm expecting something beetween Wonderfull 101 and Pikmin 3 sales.
Nintendo is going to advertise it because they don't have anything else for middle of 2015.

I hope it does well, but I doubt it.
No matter how well shooters gameplay feels natural to Nintendo's motion controllers, they have a history of failing on their recent consoles.

Remember Red Steel and The Conduit ?

PS: Can anyone help me find infos on the in-game rewards for each of the different Splatoon amiibos ? I can't find it online, and I need to know what to buy.
Also, will those rewards be exclusive or can they be unlocked even without the amiibos ?

Thanks !

this. Population meeting this profile must not be large imo.

Seems like a flop in the making.

I think it'll bomb as well. I don't see it doing well.


No.

It has Saturday morning cartoon charm. Maybe 'Ubisoft appealing to children' charm. Based on what I've seen it doesn't have Nintendo charm, not nearly.

Game won't break 500k worldwide.

Would bet my Wii U along all my Wii U games it will.

Nintendo is incapable of creating and maintaining new mega-IPs, for the possible exception of Wii Sports. Wii Fit? Dead. Nintendogs/cats? Dead. Brain Age? Dead. They reserve their AAA efforts and resources on old mascots, then they wonder why those are the only games that sell.

Splatoon doesn't even have a good local co-op feature. 1vs1? WTF. Nintendo is suffering from some sort of identity crisis this generation. On one hand, they want to resurrect the local/family multiplayer experience, but on the other hand they're pushing new IPs that don't bring such experiences to households.

Hard to give birth to a new major IP on Wii U, it's a private circle for best selling titles. If we see the characters in Smash, though.. there could be a chance. Personally, I don't think so.

I honestly expect it to do about as well as the W101, inside the Nintendo bubble it may seem like the next big thing though...

Seeing as how i'm not Japanese nor "in the know" of said market, i was unaware of this...

Advertising can only get you that far when the game that you're advertising doesn't cater to the general masses.


I'm not "having fun" here, i'm only answering to the question in the OP... i don't see it becoming Nintendo's next big franchise at all, maybe it's next Pikmin perhaps?...

The idea is cool and all, but no way this will be considered a hit sales wise.

I honestly think it is going to be underwhelming. At Christmas this year, for kids who already have a PS4/X1, Wii Us may sell (especially if Zelda is on the horizon). But the problem is there is too much out there to pick up with it (MK8, Tropical Freeze, NSMBU, SM3DW, Smash), so it is likely to get grazed over on the shelf for other games by new console purchasers. I just don't see it taking off. I'm not a fan of these type of things, either, so I know I'm out on it. I imagine many others won't drop the cash for it, either. Especially with Witcher recently and Batman coming in a couple weeks.

I expect this to bomb and bomb hard.

no 4 player split screen killed it for me.

Of all the things that Nintendo could do to get back in the game, a third person shooter isn't it, no matter how creative it is.

Splatoon looks really fun (I kinda regret refusing to play it at E3), and would be great if it was a major success, but I kinda doubt it. Among other reasons, I hear the single player mode is like 3 hours long. No bueno.

The game is going to be the industries first Tsar Bomba

Prepare yourself for disappointment

It would have a greater chance to become a long-running IP if Nintendo released it on the 3DS instead or simultaneously.

With the Wii U, there is a greater chance that something like Splatoon will just be a one-off on a failure of a console.

I'm expecting it to be considered a sales flop after ~3 months.

I really want it to do well but I don't think it has a chance. Maybe if it was released on 3DS as well.

I expect Splatoon to fail miserably. As a concept, it's just flawed. Plain and simple. Children do not want to play first person shooters. It's been proven time and time again. The only way Nintendo can keep from going the way of SEGA is to produce games their primary audience wants to play. In my opinion, Nintendo made a huge mistake by letting Minecraft fall into the hands of Microsoft. Nintendo shouldn't make the same mistake twice. They should buy the Five Nights at Freddy's IP right now while they have the chance.

Lol no way this game is gonna sell well. I doubt it will reach the 1 mil worldwide. I don't expect many people to be interested in this game with the way it looks.

I see them staying on the assist trophy level of Nintendo franchises, but I would love to be proven wrong.

No.

It lacks magic... just kinda seems like a Mario Party mini-game they decided to try and monetize.

Saw ads for this game in front of all the movies we've seen lately at Cinemark. It looks insanely stupid and the most kid-made game ever from Nintendo.

I don't see it making big success, not on Wii U anyway.

I'm really intrigued as to what happens with this franchise. I'd like to see anything Nintendo attempt do well but nothing is really clicking. This will probably go the way of Bayonetta 2, TW101, and Pikmin 3.

i own a wii u and have absolutely zero interest in this game, don't get the hype on here. expecting it to perform poorly and don't expect many people will be talking about it a couple of months after release.

I guess my expectation is that this game will not have a sequel so whatever the sales numbers are, they will not be large enough for Nintendo to continue the franchise.


if wonderful 100 and bayonetta 2 are any indicators, its gonna have a rough ride.
I don't, after Saturday's little online demo experience. It's fun but there's no way it's gonna latch on with the likes of Zelda or Mario attachment.

EDIT: Yeah, 2 million on the Wii U's install base sounds like a pipe dream.

It will probably be an awesome game that no one will play. Just like a lot of wiiu games unfortunately.

Put me on the wall of shame as a nonbeliever.

What happens when we get proven right though? Are you making a wall of shame for all the hopeful posters as well?

Put me on the non-believer list too, Neoxon. Just know that the Omega Crow is waiting for you if when it bombs.


Here's the winner, lol. Wonderful 101 as well.

If Splatoon ends up being a hit, I'll drink my own urine.
 

Josh5890

Member
I think it is a good start for Nintendo. There is plenty of potential. I can see Splatoon 2 being an early NX game possibly. (imagine four teams of four shooting it out on the same arena)
 
The whole Amiibo centric aspect of the game, has turned me off of even buying it.

Dude, the game is amazing, the Amiibo stuff literally doesn't fucking matter.

In case you wanna know you get some costume stuff that isn't even that great(I have them and don't use the amiibo stuff) and also you just play story levels with the roller instead of a gun.

That's literally everything you get from amiibo, several meh costumes and roller stages you ALREADY played.




You're one of my EO bros so I can't let you make this mistake!
 
Dude, the game is amazing, the Amiibo stuff literally doesn't fucking matter.

In case you wanna know you get some costume stuff that isn't even that great(I have them and don't use the amiibo stuff) and also you just play story levels with the roller instead of a gun.

That's literally everything you get from amiibo, several meh costumes and roller stages you ALREADY played.




You're one of my EO bros so I can't let you make this mistake!

You also get three new retro minigames to play. One for each figure.
 

Xaero Gravity

NEXT LEVEL lame™
Lol we don't know total sales numbers and there's already a wall of shame? That's some crazy levels of fanaticism towards a Nintendo IP.
 
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