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Do you think the Switch 2 will be the first Nintendo console not to be emulated?
vaibhavpisal
Member
They will try their hardest, piss off a lot of hackers, then will eventually loose.
Hackers will make a mockery of their security once again.
Hackers will make a mockery of their security once again.
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ComputerBlue
Member
You could’ve put that whole thing in the title
Interfectum
Member
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
I'm saying, I don't even think 1 company has ever stopped someone from emulating based on any technical thing
Not sure why Nintendo of all companies would have the know how to stop any of that.
They are practicing that click bait article. Get em with the bait, rewarded with the click lol
He looks like this when be post the bait
Lucifers Beard
Member
Had to read this a few times before I understood what it meant.
It'll be emulated at some point. The most stubborn of hackers can get past any security.
It'll be emulated at some point. The most stubborn of hackers can get past any security.
Mephisto40
Member
You'll probably find the switch 2 becomes the fastest system ever emulated tbh
tkscz
Member
It's going to be emulated, no escaping that. Just hope whoever does it doesn't do it the way Tropical Haze (Yuzu/Citra) were doing it.
I believe emulation in and of itself is fine. Once a system is out of production those games can be lost and unpreserved without emulation. But Tropical Haze were doing it purely for profit and not preservation. They pirated the game early so they could either get it working on Yuzu before or when the actual game released. We don't need that.
I believe emulation in and of itself is fine. Once a system is out of production those games can be lost and unpreserved without emulation. But Tropical Haze were doing it purely for profit and not preservation. They pirated the game early so they could either get it working on Yuzu before or when the actual game released. We don't need that.
Dirk Benedict
Gold Member
But, I want to see where this goes...
StereoVsn
Member
It can take a while. Xbox One just got its first emulation going for example.
MLSabre
Member
It's not a matter of if but when.
They were foolish to believe they can make money out of piracy and no repercussions would come out of that.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Will not be emulated...
...on day 1, but on day 2.
Moses85
Member
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Every consolee gets hacked & emulated eventually.
If I were Nintendo I'd more so target the sites hosting the emulators and places trying to distribute ISO rips. They can't really ever "stop" the emu community from doing what they do, only delay them.
TBF the emulation community didn't care much for XBO and that had a part in why it took so long to get emulated. The more popular systems tend to get emulated more quickly, even if at a technical level they're harder to crack.
The Saturn's a weird exception in that regard. Lack of popularity definitely played a part in why it took damn near 20 years for its security to be fully cracked, but the system itself was just a beast of engineering, but not in the elegant and well thought-out way the PS2 was or the almost-as-elegant way the PS3 was. And some things like the DSP still aren't fully understood.
If I were Nintendo I'd more so target the sites hosting the emulators and places trying to distribute ISO rips. They can't really ever "stop" the emu community from doing what they do, only delay them.
TBF the emulation community didn't care much for XBO and that had a part in why it took so long to get emulated. The more popular systems tend to get emulated more quickly, even if at a technical level they're harder to crack.
The Saturn's a weird exception in that regard. Lack of popularity definitely played a part in why it took damn near 20 years for its security to be fully cracked, but the system itself was just a beast of engineering, but not in the elegant and well thought-out way the PS2 was or the almost-as-elegant way the PS3 was. And some things like the DSP still aren't fully understood.
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Schmendrick
Member
hackers whenever a new security system gets introduced:
The question is not "if", just "when".
The question is not "if", just "when".
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LordOfChaos
Member
It will most certainly be emulated. In fact a lot of the groundwork may already be laid since it should use a similar API to NVN, a similar ARM architecture, similar Nvidia graphics, for full BC with the Switch. So we may get to it faster than with the Switch itself, which is so easy to emulate Intel IGPs can play many of its games better than it itself. It'll just raise the hardware bar because emulation takes more overhead over the systems power, but with the Switch being so easy to do it's probable that even current PCs can do it.
Security wise Nintendo doesn't seem to put that much effort in. The heavily pirated Wii's security chip was also used in the Wii U iirc, and instead of a licence key per game copy, it was only one per game, so PC installers were actually pulling copies from Nintendo's own download servers for the Wii U generation.
While it's possible they decide to give far more of an arse this gen and put more security in, remember when Denuvo was supposed to end piracy? Yeah.
Security wise Nintendo doesn't seem to put that much effort in. The heavily pirated Wii's security chip was also used in the Wii U iirc, and instead of a licence key per game copy, it was only one per game, so PC installers were actually pulling copies from Nintendo's own download servers for the Wii U generation.
While it's possible they decide to give far more of an arse this gen and put more security in, remember when Denuvo was supposed to end piracy? Yeah.
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FlaffySheeby
Neo Member
I mean let's be honest, if we can emulate the PS3 than it's more than likely possible at some point. Maybe not at record time, but hey where there's a will there's a way.
On a side note, emulation of modern hardware always seemed kind of weird to me, since all of it is publicly available. It's unlike how things used to be where if I wanted a copy of Phantasy Star Online a single generation after it came out I'd have to fork over an arm and a leg, then send a search party to retrieve the thing.
On a side note, emulation of modern hardware always seemed kind of weird to me, since all of it is publicly available. It's unlike how things used to be where if I wanted a copy of Phantasy Star Online a single generation after it came out I'd have to fork over an arm and a leg, then send a search party to retrieve the thing.
BlackTron
Member
It might be one of the more difficult Nintendo systems to emulate because the system requirements to do it will be substantially higher.
I'm not seeing the security as much of a barrier. I see the security more making it difficult to play backups on a real system. The bigger barrier with an emulator is in writing it.
I'm not seeing the security as much of a barrier. I see the security more making it difficult to play backups on a real system. The bigger barrier with an emulator is in writing it.
March Climber
Member
This is why Xbox 360 is legendary. It bet against emulation and is still winning.
SweetTooth
Gold Member
Dude, it will be so underpowered and off shelf parts it will be emulated yesterday!
alucard0712_rus
Member
This console will be most important target for them
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
March Climber
Member
And it has an awfully tiny list of games that actually work on it compared to every other emulator. So it is still winning it’s battle.
RagnarokIV
Battlebus imprisoning me \m/ >.< \m/
I bet it will be the fastest to be emulated.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Because the lack of interest in being emulated.
March Climber
Member
Ponderling
Member
LMAO day 1 emulation within the first year.
