Doctor Who Series 8 |OT| We've fucking time-travelled, yes?

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maybe I'm not the only one that feels something is off about him so far?

Someone else pointed this out on another forum, but it almost feels like he is still regenerating. Not so much the physical outward appearance but his mannerisms and characterisms as if he hasn't quite decided what to be yet.
 
I've rewatched Deep Breath and Into the Dalek-and I have to say that while I do like Capaldi (he's a tremendous actor with great screen presence)-I'm wondering if maybe I'm finding The Doctor himself to be a bit...boring? Granted he's not as manic as 11 or charming as 10, etc., and it's only been 2 episodes-but I get the impression that The Doctor was really just Mr. Exposition in these two episodes.

I could be wrong, and I often have trouble articulating these feelings and impressions, but maybe I'm not the only one that feels something is off about him so far?

I've rewatched Deep breath 6 times and Into The Dalek twice.

I disagree, His doctor is something new. A touch of dark tennant, a dash of war doctor, a pinch of ecclestone, a twist of throwback and something new. I'm loving what we have seen so far. It's a varied and well done performance.

Into the Dalek was a difficult episode because it didn't really focus on anybody, It was an intro to Danny Pink, Little to no exposition about The Dalek War and who those space soldiers were and Capaldi didn't get time to shine.

The real big moments for him are yet to come I feel, He hasn't had chance to have a "tennant drowning the infants scene" or "eccleston telling the daleks NO!" His moment mind melding with the dalek was as close as we have come.
 
I've rewatched Deep Breath and Into the Dalek-and I have to say that while I do like Capaldi (he's a tremendous actor with great screen presence)-I'm wondering if maybe I'm finding The Doctor himself to be a bit...boring? Granted he's not as manic as 11 or charming as 10, etc., and it's only been 2 episodes-but I get the impression that The Doctor was really just Mr. Exposition in these two episodes.

I could be wrong, and I often have trouble articulating these feelings and impressions, but maybe I'm not the only one that feels something is off about him so far?

Yeah, I agree. I like Capaldi, but not really feeling this series and I've watched up to Ep 5 from the leaks. It's good, it's well made all around, but it's just not grabbing me.

I'm hoping that having some new writers on the back end of the series will make it feel a bit fresher.
 
Yeah, this is true still, even this year.

I feel like RTD might break down and say yes in the next year or two. He'll want to write for as many Doctors as he can, as a fan (a bit like how Moffat's mental checklist was satisfied by getting McGann into a mini-episode) and there's no other outlet to write for Capaldi.

I really enjoyed what he wrote for Smith, it was nice.

I'd love it if he came back for an episode.

A new RTD episode would be cool but I understand if he wouldn't want to step back in like that.

I do miss the charm of that era. Not sure if it was his Russell's take on Who, Tennent or the iffy production values. The show was just more "fun" for those series



Anyway if they wanted to bring someone back I would say Captain Jack would be the best pick. Donna and Martha wouldn't really add much. Rose as others said, that story kind of has a bow on it.

Captain Jack (and Torchwood I guess if they wanted) on the other hand was left in limbo. There is stuff they could do there.



While on the subject, I never could get through S1 for Torchwood. I hear it got better but then got much, much worse by the end.

Captain Jack was going to be brought back for A Good Man Goes to War but Barrowman was busy filming Torchwood.

Someone else pointed this out on another forum, but it almost feels like he is still regenerating. Not so much the physical outward appearance but his mannerisms and characterisms as if he hasn't quite decided what to be yet.

Moffat or Capaldi said some people might feel this way up until episode 7, where the Doctor finds out who he is, so to speak.
 
I'd love it if he came back for an episode.

Captain Jack was going to be brought back for A Good Man Goes to War but Barrowman was busy filming Torchwood.

Moffat or Capaldi said some people might feel this way up until episode 7, where the Doctor finds out who he is, so to speak.

Different people 'pop' at different times. Tennant got it right away, and Smith did, but I think Capaldi is just going to take some warming. Funnily enough, Moffat's prediction for Matt was that the moment people would wholly accept him would be the moment he bursts out of the cake at Rory's stag night in Vampires of Venice, but Matt just nailed it from the word go.
 
Is it weird I don't want to watch Season 7? This show has grown on me quite a lot, and I don't want it to end....even though I have season 8 on the horizon.

Different people 'pop' at different times. Tennant got it right away, and Smith did, but I think Capaldi is just going to take some warming. Funnily enough, Moffat's prediction for Matt was that the moment people would wholly accept him would be the moment he bursts out of the cake at Rory's stag night in Vampires of Venice, but Matt just nailed it from the word go.
I have a really hard time deciding when I'm not liking someone because of the actor or bad dialogue/plot. Eccleston I hated, but I honestly hated season 1 of Doctor Who. Then Tennant came along, and at some point I liked him, but again---I'm not sure what did it for me. I can certainly say what annoyed me about him though...his constant "Well" where he looks one direction, says something snappy, then "well" again, and another direction. That manic "well....well...well..." drove me crazy. With Matt Smith, he was off to a great start, but I really disliked his speech at the end of his intro episode to the alien eye thing. It would've been an amazing moment for me if not for the alien showing the hologram slide show the whole time. I think it took until "Amy's Choice" for Smith to really click, then the finale. And by Season 6, it was a simple "Yeah. I love this guy". What's odd is looking back on Eccleston, I think I like him now too....I don't know why.

Long story short---Matt Smith is the best so far.
 
I want an episode like Midnight set on a plane with the Doctor and Clara dealing with an alien threat at 30,000 feet. And maybe have Tegan on the plane :p
 
I firmly believe that Matt Smith was excellent from the moment he popped on screen. Playing the Doctor he had so much... personality, as well as bucket loads of charisma. It's hard not to like 11 because of just how goofy he was at times.

Capaldi is growing on me. I really wasn't a fan of the first episode but by the end of the second I like him. He's a lot more serious and melancholy, which I think constrasts 10 and 11 nicely. He also already delivered one of my favorite lines--"don't be lasagna!"
 
I firmly believe that Matt Smith was excellent from the moment he popped on screen. Playing the Doctor he had so much... personality, as well as bucket loads of charisma. It's hard not to like 11 because of just how goofy he was at times.

Capaldi is growing on me. I really wasn't a fan of the first episode but by the end of the second I like him. He's a lot more serious and melancholy, which I think constrasts 10 and 11 nicely. He also already delivered one of my favorite lines--"don't be lasagna!"

Yep, totally agree. Maybe it's just a testament to how incredible of an episode The Eleventh Hour was (which looks only better and better as time goes on), but I was really sold on Matt as the Doctor from his very first scenes. Which is doubly impressive, for me at least, considering how strongly I had identified Tennant as THE Doctor and totally fell for all the heartstring tugging in End of Time.

I also believe that, more than Eccleston, Tennant or Capaldi, Matt the most feels like he was born to play the role. The other three are great actors who have (or are continuing to) put on great performances as the Doctor, but Matt's felt the most natural, like that's just how he acts and talks in his down time too.
 
I also believe that, more than Eccleston, Tennant or Capaldi, Matt the most feels like he was born to play the role. The other three are great actors who have (or are continuing to) put on great performances as the Doctor, but Matt's felt the most natural, like that's just how he acts and talks in his down time too.

It might be said that, stature-wise, Tennant is the new series equivalent to Tom Baker, but in this respect, I think Matt fits that description more aptly. His personification of the part feels more effortless than some of his contemporaries.
 
Yep, totally agree. Maybe it's just a testament to how incredible of an episode The Eleventh Hour was (which looks only better and better as time goes on), but I was really sold on Matt as the Doctor from his very first scenes. Which is doubly impressive, for me at least, considering how strongly I had identified Tennant as THE Doctor and totally fell for all the heartstring tugging in End of Time.

I also believe that, more than Eccleston, Tennant or Capaldi, Matt the most feels like he was born to play the role. The other three are great actors who have (or are continuing to) put on great performances as the Doctor, but Matt's felt the most natural, like that's just how he acts and talks in his down time too.

Absolutely. Capaldi doesn't feel like this, almost certainly on purpose. He feels like a grown up, weary 11th. He does that very well.
 
I honestly can't even process this statement. Boring episode, least entertaining Doctor...

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I feel like this is an episode I'll like and everyone will hate. I have no problems with light-hearted fun romps in Doctor Who. Capaldi hasn't really got a chance to be funny anyway, and I welcome the forest setting.
 
I feel like this is an episode I'll like and everyone will hate. I have no problems with light-hearted fun romps in Doctor Who. Capaldi hasn't really got a chance to be funny anyway, and I welcome the forest setting.

No, I'm with you. I'm hoping for a small bit of that RTD/Gatiss ridiculousness.
 
I feel like this is an episode I'll like and everyone will hate. I have no problems with light-hearted fun romps in Doctor Who. Capaldi hasn't really got a chance to be funny anyway, and I welcome the forest setting.

I honestly can't think of any romp or comedy episodes that haven't been shat upon by fans for being the most horrible travesties against the world. Because the story of an insane alien in a police box should always be super deadly serious.

I liked Unicorn and the Wasp. I liked the Lodger. I even didn't mind Closing Time if you cut out the last 10 mins or so. I'll probably like this one too.
 
I'm looking forward to a light hearted adventure featuring Robin Hood, with a dash of the Doctor. You know, something similar in tone to like, oh I don't know...The Adventures of Robin Hood.

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I can't wait for the next episode. it looks a hoot from that clip. Also Clara being a fangirl is the most adorable thing ever.
 
I honestly can't even process this statement. Boring episode, least entertaining Doctor...

The episode was OK, I don't really get the love, though. And I didn't take to Matt Smith in it at all. He was too overly frantic, too surface, too purposely weird. I warmed to him a little over time, but still my least favorite modern Doctor.
 
Um, so... what's up with Missy? That's her name, right? The "heaven" lady? I'm so glad to say I believe there's a 0.0% chance she's River Song (thank goodness, we've finally got that behind us...) and it also seems safe to say she likely has nothing whatsoever to do with the Silence or Kovarian or any of that other nonsense, but then... who?

I'm gonna go ahead and say what we're all thinking, she's the Master. Good way to test the waters for a female doctor at some point in the future.

Or just someone new, I guess, but then what do you think her connection to the Doctor might be, and how does she have the (apparent) ability to rip people out of the timestream instants before their death? Actually, now that I think of it, the two people we've seen her pull into Heaven so far have both been explicitly shown to be dead or grievously wounded. SO she's not saving them at the last second, she's actually pulling them there after they die... how?
 
Minor tease/spoiler for a minor (1 second) moment in Robot of Sherwood: Look out for
Patrick Troughton's brief appearance on-screen... NOT playing the Doctor, however...
 
Um, so... what's up with Missy? That's her name, right? The "heaven" lady? I'm so glad to say I believe there's a 0.0% chance she's River Song (thank goodness, we've finally got that behind us...) and it also seems safe to say she likely has nothing whatsoever to do with the Silence or Kovarian or any of that other nonsense, but then... who?

I'm gonna go ahead and say what we're all thinking, she's the Master. Good way to test the waters for a female doctor at some point in the future.

Or just someone new, I guess, but then what do you think her connection to the Doctor might be, and how does she have the (apparent) ability to rip people out of the timestream instants before their death? Actually, now that I think of it, the two people we've seen her pull into Heaven so far have both been explicitly shown to be dead or grievously wounded. SO she's not saving them at the last second, she's actually pulling them there after they die... how?

Silence was just one of Who's religions ..... maybe Missy's one is the right one ? =P
 
The episode was OK, I don't really get the love, though. And I didn't take to Matt Smith in it at all. He was too overly frantic, too surface, too purposely weird. I warmed to him a little over time, but still my least favorite modern Doctor.

Well if you don't like Smith, it makes sense you wouldn't like an episode that's all about establishing his Doctor.
 
Um, so... what's up with Missy? That's her name, right? The "heaven" lady? I'm so glad to say I believe there's a 0.0% chance she's River Song (thank goodness, we've finally got that behind us...) and it also seems safe to say she likely has nothing whatsoever to do with the Silence or Kovarian or any of that other nonsense, but then... who?

I'm gonna go ahead and say what we're all thinking, she's the Master. Good way to test the waters for a female doctor at some point in the future.

Or just someone new, I guess, but then what do you think her connection to the Doctor might be, and how does she have the (apparent) ability to rip people out of the timestream instants before their death? Actually, now that I think of it, the two people we've seen her pull into Heaven so far have both been explicitly shown to be dead or grievously wounded. SO she's not saving them at the last second, she's actually pulling them there after they die... how?

My thought was... What if Rassilon killed the Master after 10 sent Gallifrey back, so the Master ended up in Hell or Heaven or something and just hijacked the whole place and is preparing to mess with the Doctor from the netherworld.

Seems totally inline with the Master of old to me
 
My thought was... What if Rassilon killed the Master after 10 sent Gallifrey back, so the Master ended up in Hell or Heaven or something and just hijacked the whole place and is preparing to mess with the Doctor from the netherworld.

Seems totally inline with the Master of old to me
That would be amazing.
 
I thought that maybe during this regeneration the Doctor split in two. His other half being the woman in heaven. Roughly the same age and it would explain why he was quite so scattered in the first episode, and why he's changed so much in regards to people dying etc.
 
Wouldn't a female Master be like...The Rani?

I'm rather intrigued by the character now, as I think Missy is an ally or someone who has decided to care for persons the Doctor has made a deep connection with.
 
Missy is actually just Death and she's in love with the Doctor because he's so close to dying so often. Basically like Deadpool.
 
Knowing Moffat, she could be something like an alter-Clara born from her interference with the Doctor's timeline or something crazy like that.
 
I wouldn't mind a female master but isn't Missy - Mistress - Master all a bit too obvious for Moffat? I dunno.

We had Amy Pond - River Song and Trenzalore. The man likes a good word pun.

Not that I believe the whole Master theory. As nice as it would be, sitting around in 'heaven' drinking tea doesn't seem like a particularly Master thing to do.
 
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