I disagree. For one thing, I think Ashildir will be lucky to survive the season. For another, the Doctor has been known to hold a grudge and he has no drive to give a shit about Ashildir at this point. I think he'd be more likely to Family of Blood her than give her a spot in the TARDIS.
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Doctor Who Series 9 |OT| Let Zygons Be Zygons
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I disagree. For one thing, I think Ashildir will be lucky to survive the season. For another, the Doctor has been known to hold a grudge and he has no drive to give a shit about Ashildir at this point. I think he'd be more likely to Family of Blood her than give her a spot in the TARDIS.
Yep that's how I see it. I can't really blame whoever set it up really. They reasonably wouldn't expect the Doctor to punch a wall for two billion years. Plus maybe the Doctor would have indeed broken if it wasn't for Clara recently dying and the memory of her pushing him on.
APZonerunner
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What we know so far from comments is:
- It's considered a reboot point and it'll be something very tonally different (Moffat)
- There's a strong chance it'll be a more working class companion like Rose, because he's been pushing for that (Capaldi)
- It's going to be a woman, because in both instances Moffat and Capaldi have referred to the new companion as she and talked about searching for an actress.
I think these are both promising points. We haven't had a really working class companion in a decade, really - Martha and Donna were both, to varying degrees far better off than Rose, even if they weren't posh, and then Amy and Clara both were both very much middle England companions. To the first point, I hope they go all the way with it and Series 3 it, where there's no pre-credits sequence and it's just right in with the credits then opening ON the companion, and tell it from her perspective.
peanutbutterlatte
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Clara was middle-class and a full-time teacher but still could only afford the same-quality flat as Rose. Comment on the property market right there...
that was basically donna tbh
Ehh, the "Doctor-Donna" that the Oood foresaw was where I was coming from with my prophecy thing.
Speaking of that we all know she's the real Hybrid, even if it's obvious the show will say it's "Me."
Oh I missed that Heaven Sent only got an AI of 80, which is near the bottom since the show came back: http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2015/11/heaven-sent-ai80.html
Not surprising to me tbh. It's one of the best episodes in the history of Doctor Who but to any casual fan they probably hate how experimental it was plus it was the least family friendly episode I can think of in recent times.
It gets balanced out by the critical acclaim and it'll hopefully win a ton of awards too, to encourage Moffat to keep experimenting and trying new things.
Not surprising to me tbh. It's one of the best episodes in the history of Doctor Who but to any casual fan they probably hate how experimental it was plus it was the least family friendly episode I can think of in recent times.
It gets balanced out by the critical acclaim and it'll hopefully win a ton of awards too, to encourage Moffat to keep experimenting and trying new things.
tonysidaway
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I still haven't worked that out. Maybe it was Moffat's little joke. "Plot holes? Now _this_ is what a plot hole looks like!"
tonysidaway
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So you miss Handles. Bless.
tonysidaway
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Stop the internet. peanutbutterlatte has won.
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Deleted member 231381
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it's behind him and to the right when he walks out of the teleporter - it is there, he just misses it the first time.
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It's how the Veil managed to come out of the earth in the garden - there's no other way that can be explained. It's left to the viewer to figure out, though.
Yes, but once he leaves the room should then reset erasing the bird message.
tonysidaway
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I just assumed the Veil came up in the garden by saying XYZZY like everybody else.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
The way that I see it, or interpret the episode is that the doctor dying in each iteration was only metaphorical, in his head. Each time the doctor tells the truth, the interrogation machine was one step closer to releasing the doctor, but the room where he fails the interrogation doesn't fit the dynamics of the castle, which is meant to torture him, so everything resets in the castle except the room.
As a form of torture, it forces him to replay the sequence of events over and over until they get the answer of the "hybrid." Since he "dies" in the same room over and over, I imagine that this sequence stands still and doesn't change, because the the Time Lords wanted the doctor to reveal the final truth in that room with the diamond exit.
At least, that is how I see it. I am clearly in the minority since no one else has such a crazy theory.
mightynine
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Technically, if the room's default state are set when the teleported is activated, the message is already there so it should not be erased.
Then he wouldn't need to keep writing it.
APZonerunner
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Christmas is called The Husbands of River Song
It’s Christmas Day on a remote human colony and the Doctor is hiding from carols and comedy antlers. But when the Time Lord’s help is requested he finds himself recruited into River Song’s squad and hurled into a fast and frantic chase across the galaxy! King Hydroflax (Greg Davies) is furious and his giant robot bodyguard is out-of-control and coming for them all! Will Nardole (Matt Lucas) survive? And when will River work out who the Doctor is?
All will be revealed on a starliner full of galactic super-villains and at a destination the Doctor has been avoiding for a very long time…
Part of that synopsis makes me want to throw something though. If we're back to them giving him missions fuck everything about that.
There does appear to be a new Sonic, though.
It’s Christmas Day on a remote human colony and the Doctor is hiding from carols and comedy antlers. But when the Time Lord’s help is requested he finds himself recruited into River Song’s squad and hurled into a fast and frantic chase across the galaxy! King Hydroflax (Greg Davies) is furious and his giant robot bodyguard is out-of-control and coming for them all! Will Nardole (Matt Lucas) survive? And when will River work out who the Doctor is?
All will be revealed on a starliner full of galactic super-villains and at a destination the Doctor has been avoiding for a very long time…
Part of that synopsis makes me want to throw something though. If we're back to them giving him missions fuck everything about that.
There does appear to be a new Sonic, though.
The 2015 Doctor Who Christmas Special is called:
The Husbands of River Song
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The Husbands of River Song
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/entries/10dd7ae7-79c1-4d82-a11b-6e4810ea4251
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Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
In before he becomes "Lord President of Gallifrey" and shirks responsibility again.
Daria Morgendorffer
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Oh boy a destination the Doctor has been avoiding for a long time 
CrimsonFist
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Oh good, he gets the sonic back.
Also, nothing about that sounds appealing, but Moffat did just write the best episode in a long time, so...
nope, still sounds awful.
And I think people are reading that wrong. I think "The Time Lord's help" is just referring to The Doctor's help being requested.
Also, nothing about that sounds appealing, but Moffat did just write the best episode in a long time, so...
nope, still sounds awful.
And I think people are reading that wrong. I think "The Time Lord's help" is just referring to The Doctor's help being requested.
Exterminieren
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Sounds like a lot of fun, and a good tonic to the grimness we've had since The Girl Who Died.
Preferred the rumoured title of Mr. and Mrs. Who, though.
Preferred the rumoured title of Mr. and Mrs. Who, though.
You're reading that wrong.
Oh good. Just the one singular Time Lord then, the Doctor's help.
paradox121
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I was initially wondering that too but apparently it's the stone that the Doctor digs up in the grave with 'I am in 12' written on it. That's why there's a flashback when he first discovers it, and also you can briefly see it in his notebook later on.
She's also by far the best dressed companion so maybe she just prefers to look good rather than have a swanky place. Plus I doubt Coal Hill pays that much, particularly to someone who's barely there half the time.
He probably got it in his stocking.
Bobby Roberts
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Christ what the FUCK happened to Baymax?
Getting ready for the Big Hero 6 gritty reboot.
infiniteloop
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new sonic looks nice.
blogtor has a slightly different synopsis:
"But when a crashed spaceship calls upon the Doctor for help, he finds himself recruited into River Song’s squad and hurled into a fast and frantic chase across the galaxy."
compared to:
"But when the Time Lord’s help is requested he finds himself recruited into River Song’s squad and hurled into a fast and frantic chase across the galaxy! "
blogtor has a slightly different synopsis:
"But when a crashed spaceship calls upon the Doctor for help, he finds himself recruited into River Song’s squad and hurled into a fast and frantic chase across the galaxy."
compared to:
"But when the Time Lord’s help is requested he finds himself recruited into River Song’s squad and hurled into a fast and frantic chase across the galaxy! "
Last week episode was pretty good, quite interesting to see how the Doctor's mind works.
Ysssss, he get his Sonic Screwdriver back. Fuck the Sonicglasses they were dumb.
Christmas is called The Husbands of River Song
Its Christmas Day on a remote human colony and the Doctor is hiding from carols and comedy antlers. But when the Time Lords help is requested he finds himself recruited into River Songs squad and hurled into a fast and frantic chase across the galaxy! King Hydroflax (Greg Davies) is furious and his giant robot bodyguard is out-of-control and coming for them all! Will Nardole (Matt Lucas) survive? And when will River work out who the Doctor is?
All will be revealed on a starliner full of galactic super-villains and at a destination the Doctor has been avoiding for a very long time
Part of that synopsis makes me want to throw something though. If we're back to them giving him missions fuck everything about that.
There does appear to be a new Sonic, though.
Ysssss, he get his Sonic Screwdriver back. Fuck the Sonicglasses they were dumb.
Stallion Dan
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As has been pointed out, the start of the loop doesn't work and it breaks its own rules about things resetting or not.
edit: I had hoped to never see River again. Awful character.
Oh boy a destination the Doctor has been avoiding for a long time
Slough.
After all, wouldn't you?
Bobby Roberts
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You sure it's his and not hers? As in that becomes the one she had later (which is earlier?)
APZonerunner
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This sounds like the BBC changed their mind about mentioning the Time Lords and thus suggesting events of this week's show too late and somebody didn't get the memo, as the official site has the Time Lords line but I can confirm that yes, the press release that went out has this different wording.
If you look at the full res version of the picture she has some device (probably Sonic) that isn't the 'red settings' screwdriver, not yet, and he has an all-new screwdriver that appears to have the upper body of the 11th model (or a very similar body, at least) and an all-new shape lower body.
ClivePwned
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Is River going to cut a pizza?
Baleoce
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Looks like she got a model of the USS Enterprise for Christmas
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That sonic looks really classy. I don't know how they managed it, but they did.
It shouldn't :/
I was hoping for an orange or red screwdriver for Capaldi. This one looks okay though, and different enough from the others.
So, me and my GF are not alone in the world. That's good to know.
infiniteloop
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isn't it saying "the Time Lord's help" as in "The Doctor's help"
GodParticle
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Ok, I did a rewatch of the last episode and I change my stance on it. Definitely better on a second viewing where you can pick up on the subtle workings