The Elite
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I wonder if they resolve Clara's situation before the two part finale?
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Doctor Who Series 9 |OT| Let Zygons Be Zygons
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I wonder if they resolve Clara's situation before the two part finale?
APZonerunner
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Wish they'd
leave this shit alone. Gallifrey is shite. Awful. It's a pair of concrete shoes for the narrative 90% of the time. I hope this is all a red herring and he's left distraught about missing it again at the end of the series.
The Elite
BOSS
Or they have him find Gallifrey, return it to normal space, then ban him from ever returning for what he did. It would be better to resolve it now than leave it dangling. They're going to have to deal with what was established in Day of the Doctor at some point.
It really sounds to me like Episode 10 is going to be Clara's final episode, with her perhaps making one more appearance in episode 12 as a goodbye
Also didn't they say we would see the Day of the Doctor from the 12th Doctor's perspective this series?
trudderham
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It's the episode where Capaldi is the only actor in the credits, and it broadcasts on my birthday. Cannot wait.
This might be about
what led to the 12th Doctor appearing in the 50th special when all the Doctors are surrounding Gallifrey for the calculation thing,
Sounds great. Kind of wish I didn't read it though.
BrokenFiction
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The best thing about it is the level of detail. Look at the First Doctor's TARDIS
The back walls are clearly cloth, just like the set. There's also the crack in the universe in the Eleventh Doctor's TARDIS. Ten has his spare hand in the jar. Lots of small things
This just makes me want a true LEGO Doctor Who game as I can't really afford to be spending all that money on the Dimensions reader and sets.
The Elite
BOSS
I don't believe anything that man says.
tonysidaway
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He completely missed the point of Osgood. Osgood is as Osgood does. It's the whole point of the story. The idea that it would be not so bad if the Zygon Osgood died and terrible if the human Osgood died runs against the story quite blatantly.
tonysidaway
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I don't think it's that clear. I think at least I take seriously the notion that he was prepared to rerun the scenario as many times as it took to get Bonnie to absorb the key insight. But the idea that she grasped it without the need for reruns also works.
infiniteloop
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mightynine
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I like the other idea - that this cease fire has been threatened many times since The Day of the Doctor, and that the Doctor has wiped Kate's memory every time - we just haven't seen it.
tonysidaway
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infiniteloop
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bit of a leap in logic there
Fine Ham Abounds
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There you go, it's a hybrid
of all of his dark sides
Yeah I doubt it, and really hope not ;p
A few questions to all the smart Dr Who people in here: I want to jump back into this series but I don't really know where. The last time I watched up until the third episode of season 4 (Planet of the Ood). However I cannot stand Donna and didn't much care for the first three episodes in general so I stopped. Should I just slog through the rest of it? Does it get better? Do I jump right to the next doctor or maybe the current one? Help me out here.
The Elite
BOSS
But she's the best companion?
Start at Season 5.
Donna goes away for a couple of the specials but she's back in a small part for Ten's two-part finale. I would recommend you watch that first if you can stomach Donna for just a little bit longer.
Edit: Actually, you should be watching the Silence in the Library two-parter first. That's a must since it features River Song.
So:
Silence in the Library Two Parter
Midnight (Donna lite and one of RTD's best.)
Waters of Mars (Yeah, might as well and no Donna)
End of Time Part 1 & 2 for Ten's finale.
Season 5
Edit 2: Meh. You kind of need the Journey's End two parter to know what is going on with Donna in End of Time. Fuck it. Watch them all.
If you've got that far I'd finish off Tennant's run, I think; there's some useful groundlaying for the future in it. If you must skip, as was suggested above, you really should watch the Library two-parter and maybe Waters of Mars and The End Of Time to set the scene for the transition. If you really can't stomach that at all, Smith's run is designed as a new entry point and it's very effective at being that.
infiniteloop
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season 5. episode 1.
I binged the first three seasons at that time so it was probably a combination of me burning out and me not liking her very much. Maybe it won't be as bad now that it's been a while. I'll probably try to continue from where I left off then and if I can't get into it I'll watch the important ones to get to season 5 as quickly as possible. Thanks guys.
Ignatz Mouse
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I didn't like her at first and really loved her by the end of her run. Keep going.
It would be absolutely criminal to not watch Turn Left. And even if you don't like Donna at first she definitely grows into a good companion by the end of the series.
It's only one series, just power through it, series 4 was awesome. Turn Left and Midnight being absolute stand out amazing, and Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead setting events up for the next 2 or 3 seasons
It's only one series, just power through it, series 4 was awesome. Turn Left and Midnight being absolute stand out amazing, and Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead setting events up for the next 2 or 3 seasons
I'd just slog through it. Some of them are better than others, but Companion Donna is ultimately a much more interesting a fulfilling character than Runaway Bride Donna.
Her part in Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead alone made her time on the show worthwhile.
Exterminieren
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So, Michael Pickwoad the production designer's been chatting to Radio Free Skaro, and has shed some light on what's going on next year.
In short, not a lot, in terms of broadcast. In fact, just a Christmas special.
Essentially, he expects to start work in February or March, with filming starting in May. That's a start of filming that's four months later than we've had the past two years. On top of that, he outright says that he's not expecting more than a Christmas special next year. It seems all set up for next year's Christmas special to essentially kick the series off, with the main series being ready for shortly afterwards.
Seeing "basically no Who in 2016" stings a little, admittedly, but I think this is an unambiguous, unabashed good for the programme as a whole. Doctor Who gets to move out of the battlefield of Autumn Saturday night to a position where it can basically have the BBC schedules to itself- even The Voice will have left the channel by then!- while still having the dark nights. I've been calling for a move like this for months, and it's a rare attack of common sense on the BBC schedulers' behalf if it's indeed true.
In short, not a lot, in terms of broadcast. In fact, just a Christmas special.
Essentially, he expects to start work in February or March, with filming starting in May. That's a start of filming that's four months later than we've had the past two years. On top of that, he outright says that he's not expecting more than a Christmas special next year. It seems all set up for next year's Christmas special to essentially kick the series off, with the main series being ready for shortly afterwards.
Seeing "basically no Who in 2016" stings a little, admittedly, but I think this is an unambiguous, unabashed good for the programme as a whole. Doctor Who gets to move out of the battlefield of Autumn Saturday night to a position where it can basically have the BBC schedules to itself- even The Voice will have left the channel by then!- while still having the dark nights. I've been calling for a move like this for months, and it's a rare attack of common sense on the BBC schedulers' behalf if it's indeed true.
Exterminieren
Banned
Well, it's a three or four month delay. A year's just a manmade construct, man.
It absolutely is, regardless of the spin. That said, I do think this will do Who good as a whole, if nothing else because a year out of the public consciousness might help to renew positive memories (and putting it back where it belongs won't hurt)
I wonder if this means going from The Voice complementing Doctor Who to The Voice competing with Doctor Who, though. That's a worry. I'm assuming BGT and X Factor are going to stay entrenched in their usual spots for a while, which would suggest that The Voice might go out at the same time of year but on the other side.
I'm not forgetting that they put themselves into this current schedule with the mess that was series 7 too.
infiniteloop
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Exterminieren
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Well, we know that Moffat's doing series 10, but we also know that he was only recently signed up to it at all- he was writing this year's Christmas special with a view to it being his last episode. This may well give the BBC a bit more time to find his successor, if indeed he is going to be replaced after series 10, because all the indications are that the BBC doesn't have anyone they're confident with yet.
Honestly, I'd give it to Harness quick as you like, but given the last thing on his CV is the mega-flop Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell I can see why they're hesitant.
Wow, DWM are REALLY struggling to find anything they're allowed to promote the finale with, aren't they?
That flopped?
I thought it was extremely well-received, certainly critically.EDIT: Also, Harness ain't getting a showrunning gig if he's got no production experience. I'd be happy with him as a Spooks-esque lead writer, personally, but I doubt Who will adopt that production model.
That flopped?
Just what I was thinking. It was a marvelous show. There really is no justice in the world.
Exterminieren
Banned
That flopped?
It was critically adored (and I thought it was brilliant) but the viewing figures were very poor.
Honestly, British audiences seem to have gone off fantasy a lot over the past few years. Game of Thrones is the only success story, and it's still niche as hell over here.
tonysidaway
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Strange and Norrell pissed me off because it was a parody of the kind of science history drama that I'd rather be watching. Who wants make believe when you could see real people discovering with ingenuity how the world really works? I can't fault the adaption, though.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Christ.
The Elite
BOSS
I am going to miss her.
Watch the Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead two-parter, then just go straight into season 5.
Same. :/
APZonerunner
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hey guys remember how davies, garnder and collinson delivered 14 episodes a year every year
Anything to get Sheridan Smith on the telly incarnation.
I'd watch it. That sounds highly entertaining.