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[APZonerunner]

With all these changes (new TARDIS, new costume, new companion...) they might as well call the next episodes Season 8. :lol

Eh - Classic Who changed Doctor mid 'season' too, so that's pretty standard.

This set looks a lot like the old ones, as expected, for the 50th. Looking at the stairs, I bet the console set is only that large, while there'll be more expansive areas below. Love the traditional shape time rotor being back - and it's lit up! Hated that bloody terrible blown glass sex toy rotor of the last console.

I really do have a fondness for the coral set. I miss it. It's a shame that it was only one very simple and flat room....

 

[Quick]

Good ol' Tumblr. I can already hear Fiction's keyboard/mouse on its way to click on this thread and reply.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Good ol' Tumblr. I can already hear Fiction's keyboard/mouse on its way to click on this thread and reply.

 

[Exterminieren]

New TARDIS is leaving me a little cold at the moment, but I dunno, how it looks in the episode is the important thing. Several things that have looked really good in the show (Cybermen and Sontaran designs, 2010 TARDIS) looked like utter arse in the reveal photos. I mean, look at the Sontaran reveal!

 

[andylsun]

Thanks so much for posting this GIF. When I saw it I just had to watch the clip. So I Googled, but instead of a clip I found something much better...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1_LRTEhf1k

I am in tears. This was the funniest thing I've seen in a long time. Is the show ever anywhere near this funny?

"I like Coldplay. Deal with it."

Oh crap, can't watch the rest of this at work - laughing too much.

 

[fenners]

Thanks so much for posting this GIF. When I saw it I just had to watch the clip. So I Googled, but instead of a clip I found something much better...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1_LRTEhf1k

I am in tears. This was the funniest thing I've seen in a long time. Is the show ever anywhere near this funny?

"I like Coldplay. Deal with it."

Never Mind The Buzzcocks can be hit & miss - heavily depends who the guest presenter is etc. There's been some cracking episodes this last series, mind, and the "identity parade" is always fun. My wife's American & has no clue who most of the people/music involved is, but she still laughs a lot at it.

 

[Seraphis Cain]

Thanks so much for posting this GIF. When I saw it I just had to watch the clip. So I Googled, but instead of a clip I found something much better...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1_LRTEhf1k

I am in tears. This was the funniest thing I've seen in a long time. Is the show ever anywhere near this funny?

"I like Coldplay. Deal with it."

Oh man, thanks so much for this.

"BARROWMAN!"

 

[Celegus]

Thanks so much for posting this GIF. When I saw it I just had to watch the clip. So I Googled, but instead of a clip I found something much better...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1_LRTEhf1k

I am in tears. This was the funniest thing I've seen in a long time. Is the show ever anywhere near this funny?

"I like Coldplay. Deal with it."

Saw that a while back, hilarious. A little surprising at how much I-can't-remember-her-name-that-plays-Donna didn't know about the show, but it was still funny.

 

[User 100115]

Good ol' Tumblr. I can already hear Fiction's keyboard/mouse on its way to click on this thread and reply.

Edit: Speaking of funny videos, ya'll have seen this hilarious clip of Tennant and Barrowman and Barrowman being a total fangirl right?

http://youtu.be/lyy0aN0fQk4

 

[googleplex]

Thanks so much for posting this GIF. When I saw it I just had to watch the clip. So I Googled, but instead of a clip I found something much better...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1_LRTEhf1k

I am in tears. This was the funniest thing I've seen in a long time. Is the show ever anywhere near this funny?

"I like Coldplay. Deal with it."

Catherine Tate: "I only realized you shouldn't call the Daleks robots about a week ago."

*dead*

Catherine Tate: "I didn't even know he wasn't called Doctor Who. I thought that was his name, I thought you were Mr.Who, who was a doctor"

*dies again*

Best companion confirmed.

 

[APZonerunner]

Catherine Tate: "I only realized you shouldn't call the Daleks robots about a week ago."

*dead*

Catherine Tate: "I didn't even know he wasn't called Doctor Who. I thought that was his name, I thought you were Mr.Who, who was a doctor"

*dies again*

Best companion confirmed.

I love her so much. The commentaries with her are all incredibly hilarious.

Nah. He's a grumpy sod, now, ain't he? The Children in Need clip showed as much. He'll have redecorated to keep his mind off of Amy and Rory. The TARDIS is generally a sign of the Doctor's current "tone"- the sparse organic look for the brand new man that was 9, the weird gothic look for 8, the trinkets and anachronistic style for the wackier and similarly dressed 11. Now 11 is miserable, so the TARDIS

Spoiler

gets cold and metallic.

Alternatively:

Spoiler

the snow fucks it up and he crashes.

The TARDIS is knackered at the start of the episode. If you look in images and trailers, you can see the outside is scuffed up and ruined in a way it hasn't been before. This is probably more due to him simply not caring. Presumably, when Clara pulls him from that pit he'll action a rejuvenation of the TARDIS.

 

[kaching]

yeah, new TARDIS interior looks like something he pulled out of the archives, since they made the point that she archives all the rooms.

 

[APZonerunner]

More and more little details are getting out, though nothing major. It seems like the "DW" logo is going as well.

 

[Hot Coldman]

The TARDIS is knackered at the start of the episode. If you look in images and trailers, you can see the outside is scuffed up and ruined in a way it hasn't been before. This is probably more due to him simply not caring. Presumably, when Clara pulls him from that pit he'll action a rejuvenation of the TARDIS.

I haven't seen any of that. Fair enough.

 

[Exterminieren]

More and more little details are getting out, though nothing major. It seems like the "DW" logo is going as well.

Really? I'd have assumed that'd be the one element staying put.

A shame, too. I'd call that the one bit of current branding that really works.

 

[StrikerObi]

New TARDIS interior looks neat to me. I like the mix of a classic looking console with the open space of the newer models. I expect to be seeing lots of the TARDIS in the second half of series 7, given that there is an episode titled

Spoiler

Journey to the Center of the TARDIS

.

 

[APZonerunner]

Really? I'd have assumed that'd be the one element staying put.

A shame, too. I'd call that the one bit of current branding that really works.

This is based on a vague comment in a spoiler-free review, mind, but it does seem to heavily suggest this.

Interestingly, the website has a video up with Moffat making what appears to be a veiled mea culpa that the new paradigm Daleks are rubbish - but more interesting is that it features an all-new version of the 'classic' Who logo: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/articles/Day-4-Steven-Moffat-on-The-Evil-of-the-Daleks

 

[InaudibleWhispa]

Another little shot of the Tardis interior. I like.

 

[Lkr]

No? We have to wait about a week for more doctor who. Then April.

that is too long of a wait

 

[Worthintendo]

that is too long of a wait

We need another WanderingWind situation where we can relive the first few seasons of the reboot through someone watching it for the first time.

I'm gonna catch up on Classic Who in the mean time. I'm trying to watch all of the Patrick Throughton serials, well all that survive. Just got Seeds of Death, The Dominators & The Krotons. Might try dabbling in some Colin baker next to try and watch some of his more watchable episodes. Already done The Two Doctors, Vengeance on Varos & Attack of the Cybermen. Need to check out his Dalek episode and the whole Trial of a Timelord thing next.

 

[User 100115]

We need another WanderingWind situation where we can relive the first few seasons of the reboot through someone watching it for the first time.

I'm gonna catch up on Classic Who in the mean time. I'm trying to watch all of the Patrick Throughton serials, well all that survive. Just got Seeds of Death, The Dominators & The Krotons. Might try dabbling in some Colin baker next to try and watch some of his more watchable episodes. Already done The Two Doctors, Vengeance on Varos & Attack of the Cybermen. Need to check out his Dalek episode and the whole Trial of a Timelord thing next.

I sure we could find a victim, I mean person on Gaf to watch it and report to us their feels. There are a ton of folk who haven't seen Who!

 

[APZonerunner]

We need another WanderingWind situation where we can relive the first few seasons of the reboot through someone watching it for the first time.

I'm gonna catch up on Classic Who in the mean time. I'm trying to watch all of the Patrick Throughton serials, well all that survive. Just got Seeds of Death, The Dominators & The Krotons. Might try dabbling in some Colin baker next to try and watch some of his more watchable episodes. Already done The Two Doctors, Vengeance on Varos & Attack of the Cybermen. Need to check out his Dalek episode and the whole Trial of a Timelord thing next.

I've been whining at Kagari to watch it for the best part of a year. I'll nag her after Christmas.

 

[Lkr]

I sure we could find a victim, I mean person on Gaf to watch it and report to us their feels. There are a ton of folk who haven't seen Who!

i had to watch a friend go through it. the s02 finale still hits right in the feels


and oh god how could i forget about the girl in the fireplace. it is even harder to watch the second time because you pick up on more of it and you know what is coming

 

[Zeppu]

Oh man I just marathoned through the whole thing. I would've come and exclaimed on the awesome after every episode if I had known you guys were craving for that.

I was to scared on getting spoiled though.

 

[Worthintendo]

Oh man I just marathoned through the whole thing. I would've come and exclaimed on the awesome after every episode if I had known you guys were craving for that.

I was to scared on getting spoiled though.

As far as I recall everyone on here was pretty good with spoilers (Insert River Song Spoilers Gif here), maybe just the odd thing about I saying you'll love the next episode when a Moffat one was coming up. It was quite a fun read.

I dunno if people would be interested but maybe we could do like a weekly Classic Who episode watch or something during the lead up to April. Watch an episode a week and then talk about it in here or something. And not start from the very beginning, just cherry pick some good serials here and there and try and get a good mix of everything. I dunno just an idea I guess.

 

[Zeppu]

As far as I recall everyone on here was pretty good with spoilers (Insert River Song Spoilers Gif here), maybe just the odd thing about I saying you'll love the next episode when a Moffat one was coming up. It was quite a fun read.

I dunno if people would be interested but maybe we could do like a weekly Classic Who episode watch or something during the lead up to April. Watch an episode a week and then talk about it in here or something. And not start from the very beginning, just cherry pick some good serials here and there and try and get a good mix of everything. I dunno just an idea I guess.

Not spoilers in the sense that one of you nice people would purposefully spoil me but rather that when discussing eps I had just seen I would come up with my own theories and having anyone confirm or deny them would suck.

I also wanna see said spoiler gif

 

[Worthintendo]

Not spoilers in the sense that one of you nice people would purposefully spoil me but rather that when discussing eps I had just seen I would come up with my own theories and having anyone confirm or deny them would suck.

I also wanna see said spoiler gif

 

[User 100115]

Not spoilers in the sense that one of you nice people would purposefully spoil me but rather that when discussing eps I had just seen I would come up with my own theories and having anyone confirm or deny them would suck.

I also wanna see said spoiler gif

We are pretty good at doing the 'Oh wow that's a great theory!' and then spoilering

Spoiler

OMG he has no idea haha! Totally unprepared!

thing.

 

[Petrichor]

Got done watching "the snowmen" yesterday. No spoilers here but suffice it to say that unlike past christmas specials, this is certainly appointment viewing if you don't want big series-arc revelations spoiled for you. Also the new TARDIS looks a lot better in motion than it does in that picture, there's lots of moving parts and dynamic lights that add to it immeasurably. Easily my favourite control room since the revival.

I'd rate the christmas specials like this so far:

1) The Snowmen (*****)
2) A Christmas Carol (****)
3) The Christmas Invasion (***)
4) The Doctor, The Widow and the Wardrobe (***)
5) The Voyage of the Damned (**)
6) The Next Doctor (**)
7) The Runaway Bride (**)

So if you share my taste in Who then get excited!

 

[DieH@rd]

Got done watching "the snowmen" yesterday. No spoilers here but suffice it to say that unlike past christmas specials, this is certainly appointment viewing if you don't want big series-arc revelations spoiled for you. Also the new TARDIS looks a lot better in motion than it does in that picture, there's lots of moving parts and dynamic lights that add to it immeasurably. Easily my favourite control room since the revival.

I'd rate the christmas specials like this so far:

1) The Snowmen (*****)
2) A Christmas Carol (****)
....

Jesus, they topped Christmas Carol? IM HYPED!

 

[Nudull]

Welp. Spent most of my christmas budget on the recent gift set and series 7, part one, and now I'm about to jump in on a series that I've been curious of for quite a while. Pleasure to be aboard, WhoGAF!

 

[APZonerunner]

Welp. Spent most of my christmas budget on the recent gift set and series 7, part one, and now I'm about to jump in on a series that I've been curious of for quite a while. Pleasure to be aboard, WhoGAF!

Welcome aboard! Where are you starting? 2005 or 2010?

 

[Zeppu]

The Doctor, The Widow and the Wardrobe was terrible.

The Doctor would never be so irresponsible. Also it doesn't make sense, even by Doctor Who standards.

 

[Nudull]

Welcome aboard! Where are you starting? 2005 or 2010?

2005, just about to finish The End of the World. Don't know whether or not I'll end up following the episode guide in the OP, but right now, I'm just letting it grow on me as I go.

 

[APZonerunner]

2005, just about to finish The End of the World. Don't know whether or not I'll end up following the episode guide in the OP, but right now, I'm just letting it grow on me as I go.

Awesome. If you have the time to spend, just bite the bullet and watch them all. These are only 13-episode series', after all. The time to pick and choose comes if you really fall for this show - then it's worth checking out Torchwood and Sarah Jane Adventures, the adult/kids spin-offs - but literally only about 8 episodes of one and 4 of the other out of their entire run. (Specifically, for any others who haven't watched - I'm talking about the 4 episodes the Doctor is in Sarah Jane... and 10 is about the number of good Torchwood episodes there are.)

There are some stinkers in there - in particular I think "Fear Her" is the worst episode of the series since 2005 by a long, long, long distance... but a lot of episodes have redeeming 'bits' here or there. A lot of people would say to skip Series 3's Dalek episodes, for instance, as the episodes aren't all that great - but then when you hit the future of the Daleks in a wider sense, you've missed a pretty important chapter. Others would say the Sontaran episodes in series 4 aren't important - and they aren't, really - but then when a lone Sontaran shows up later on you don't have as much context for what kind of race they are. It works without the knowledge, of course, but I think it's infinitely better with. Most of these names mean nothing to you now, but they will!

Keep posting! One of the best bits of this thread is watching people experience it for the first time.

1) The Snowmen (*****)
2) A Christmas Carol (****)
3) The Christmas Invasion (***)
4) The Doctor, The Widow and the Wardrobe (***)
5) The Voyage of the Damned (**)
6) The Next Doctor (**)
7) The Runaway Bride (**)

So if you share my taste in Who then get excited!

The Doctor, The Widow and the Wardrobe was terrible.

The Doctor would never be so irresponsible. Also it doesn't make sense, even by Doctor Who standards.

Yeah, that episode is weird. Matt's Doctor (and Tennant's) is irresponsible by nature, but how far in that episode is a bit jarring. I'd put The Next Doctor at the bottom of my list (it's just bland), followed by Wardrobe. I absolutely adore Voyage/Runaway, though. They're not at all what I want for an average Who episode, but for a Christmas day spectacle they're perfect, imo. A Christmas Carol was perfect in the other direction - heartfelt, moving over insane spectacle.

 

[Exterminieren]

I'd rank the Christmas Specials thus:

A Christmas Carol
The Next Doctor
The Runaway Bride
The Christmas Invasion
Voyage of the Damned
The End of Time
The Doctor, The Widow and the Wardrobe

And yes, my tastes are idiosyncratic. Gridlock, anyone?

2005, just about to finish The End of the World. Don't know whether or not I'll end up following the episode guide in the OP, but right now, I'm just letting it grow on me as I go.

I'd keep ploughing on through, personally. It's a very rare episode that has nothing good about it.

Just bear in mind that in a few episodes of series 1, no one knew how to make this show, and we get a few things which... don't really fit with the rest of the series' tone. You'll know them when you get to them.

 

[Petrichor]

Yeah, that episode is weird. Matt's Doctor (and Tennant's) is irresponsible by nature, but how far in that episode is a bit jarring. I'd put The Next Doctor at the bottom of my list (it's just bland), followed by Wardrobe. I absolutely adore Voyage/Runaway, though. They're not at all what I want for an average Who episode, but for a Christmas day spectacle they're perfect, imo. A Christmas Carol was perfect in the other direction - heartfelt, moving over insane spectacle.

Each to their own but for me the runaway bride was torturous - I mean when a story is solved by

Spoiler

The doctor murdering a giant panto-villain spider with exploding baubles

it's just not going to be the kind of story I want from the show. I thought the next doctor was pretty poorly conceived as well, but the mystery surrounding david morrisey's character was just compelling enough to place it above TRB and TVOTD for me, despite the horrendous ending.


^ And gridlock is great. Also I've just noticed "the god complex" isn't in the recommended episodes list in the OP, I'm surprised to hear that people aren't particularly fond of it, it's one of my all time favourites!

 

[Zeppu]

Since we're listing:

A Christmas Carol
Voyage of the Damned
The End of Time
The Runaway Bride
The Next Doctor
The Christmas Invasion
The Doctor, The Widow and the Wardrobe

----

Gridlock is fantastic. S3 is quite possibly my favourite. Gridlock/Human Nature/Blink.

Gridlock especially in retrospect when (end of S3 spoiler)

Spoiler

you realize it's probably Cap'n Jack

.
Human Nature/Family of Blood is when you fully understand what a tortured soul the Doctor is.
Blink is just fantastic except that the way they defeated the monsters was invalidated further on in the series.

 

[Box of Bunnies]

Liiiiiiiisssts

A Christmas Carol
The Next Doctor
The Christmas Invasion
The Doctor, The Widow and the Wardrobe
The Runaway Bride
The End of Time
Voyage of the Damned

 

[Nudull]

Keep posting! One of the best bits of this thread is watching people experience it for the first time.

I'll certainly try to. Truth be told, I honestly thought I was going to hate Eccleston's Doctor at first (seeing GI Joe before seeing him in anything else did not help), but he's really growing on me, and series one has been pretty fun so far (finishing The Unquiet Dead, by this point).

 

[The Elite]

A Christmas Carol
The Christmas Invasion
The End of Time
The Next Doctor
Voyage of the Damned
The Runaway Bride
The Doctor, The Widow and the Wardrobe

 

[Locke_211]

I too find Christmas Carol the best special and TDTWATW marginally the weakest. The latter is just bizarrely light and throwaway.

 

[Petrichor]

I too find Christmas Carol the best special and TDTWATW marginally the weakest. The latter is just bizarrely light and throwaway.

This can also be said of the runaway bride, which lacks the emotional beats and general cohesiveness of TDTWATW.

 

[The Elite]

I too find Christmas Carol the best special and TDTWATW marginally the weakest. The latter is just bizarrely light and throwaway.

It had to hold us until Asylum of the Daleks as well. Doctor Who has never left me on such a sour note. It was a bad episode IMO. I think i tried defending it a bit at the time but I've watched it since then and it's just bad.

 

[Locke_211]

I did enjoy TDTWATW, but found it just supremely frivolous and inconsequential. It felt almost like SM was deliberately showing he could do this, after Season 6 was criticised for being convoluted and confused. Perhaps it was the right move overall?

 

[grimshawish]

Wardrobe was a rushed mess. It had nothing to it.
Shit just happened, some of it out of order.

The end is fucking great though, why we didn't get a companion+doctor episode am not sure.

 

[maharg]

Can't believe anyone would put The Next Doctor anywhere but the bottom.

 

[Zeppu]

There was no reasoning behind the ending though. Meh.

I couldn't even accept that the boy left his room without realizing his sister wasn't there and that once he discovered the most 'WTF IS THIS SHIT' thing ever he just went on exploring on his own.

For some reason when I was watching the series I skipped it, then when I caught up I realized that I hadn't watched it so I got super excited that I had yet another episode to watch. Maybe the over excitement of it is what killed it for me.

 

[Exterminieren]

This can also be said of the runaway bride, which lacks the emotional beats and general cohesiveness of TDTWATW.

The Runaway Bride has scale, scope, a potent character arc for Donna folded into it, and superb setpieces like the motorway chase, the formation of the Earth and the flooding of the Racnoss chamber.

The Doctor, The Widow and the Wardrobe had none of these things. Minuscule plot, with very little tangible at stake, no threat at any point, and the only action setpiece was dealt with in the span of about ten seconds before the titles. The coda with the Doctor dropping round Amy and Rory's for Christmas dinner was the only good thing about it.

I fail to see why people are putting The Next Doctor so low, though. It's just drenched in a lovely festive tone, while keeping on some appealing darkness. Jackson is a great character, as is Mrs. Hartigan, and stuff like the graveyard scene and the Doctor fighting off the Cybermen with a cutlass alone put it above TDTWATW.

And I loved the Cyberking. So there. XP

 

[Petrichor]

The Runaway Bride has scale, scope, a potent character arc for Donna folded into it, and superb setpieces like the motorway chase, the formation of the Earth and the flooding of the Racnoss chamber.

The Doctor, The Widow and the Wardrobe had none of these things. Minuscule plot, with very little tangible at stake, no threat at any point, and the only action setpiece was dealt with in the span of about ten seconds before the titles. The coda with the Doctor dropping round Amy and Rory's for Christmas dinner was the only good thing about it.

I fail to see why people are putting The Next Doctor so low, though. It's just drenched in a lovely festive tone, while keeping on some appealing darkness. Jackson is a great character, as is Mrs. Hartigan, and stuff like the graveyard scene and the Doctor fighting off the Cybermen with a cutlass alone put it above TDTWATW.

And I loved the Cyberking. So there. XP

this scene wipes away the little that is good about the next doctor, and then some:

the hysterical reveal of jackson lake's gormless-looking son is pretty awful as well, not to mention the cyber-king. If the cybermen wanted to take over the world, they could have done it very easily in the 1800's, crushing everything in the cyber-king was a completely pointless and seemingly counter-intuitive strategy. What was the point of it?