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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life

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I feel like I would have enjoyed one or two River appearences per season for the next four or five seasons, but then they had to go and blow everything in S6. I liked River the mysterious occasionalyl popping into the Doctor's life traveller. I don't like how...worshipful she was of the Doctor or how much they started using her.

Right from the moment The Doctor married her out of some sort of weird obligation that made no sense, and started saying "You embarrass me", I got tired of her.

Also, what else can "The Fall of the Eleventh" mean...? It's staring us right in the face.
 
Right from the moment The Doctor married her out of some sort of weird obligation that made no sense, and started saying "You embarrass me", I got tired of her.

Also, what else can "The Fall of the Eleventh" mean...? It's staring us right in the face.

I really liked the 'You embarrass me' scene, and the arm breaking and such. The little moments where they actually genuinely do feel like a couple were the best parts of that episode for me, including how they were washing the TARDIS at the end. "Does the bulb on top need changing?" -- I think that stuff is great. It's her running around with her bloody gun (wouldn't mind seeing the Squareness gun again though) and smirking knowingly because she's ahead of everybody else that I'm tired of.

I'm really not looking forward to this "Love triangle, but not in the way you expect!" Moffat has talked about between her, the Doctor and Clara. So River's going to fancy Clara, then, or the reverse. Buh. I can hear River's dialogue already in my head. Ugh.
 
I really liked the 'You embarrass me' scene, and the arm breaking and such. The little moments where they actually genuinely do feel like a couple were the best parts of that episode for me, including how they were washing the TARDIS at the end. "Does the bulb on top need changing?" -- I think that stuff is great. It's her running around with her bloody gun (wouldn't mind seeing the Squareness gun again though) and smirking knowingly because she's ahead of everybody else that I'm tired of.

I'm really not looking forward to this "Love triangle, but not in the way you expect!" Moffat has talked about between her, the Doctor and Clara. So River's going to fancy Clara, then, or the reverse. Buh. I can hear River's dialogue already in my head. Ugh.

Just made the Doctor appear as far as possible from being in love with her, or showing any sort of affection really. I think Moffatt just generally has problems with writing convincing romances

Oh has he really talked about a love triangle? My god, that's going to be awful. Ew. Ew. Ew.

"I'm sorry sweetie, but he prefers an older woman"

Etc., Etc.
 
Seems like there was supposed to be a non-new series/non-50th special announcement from the BBC on Saturday, but the leak of the Tennant story may have pushed it back.
 

Locke_211

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How? No, I dont' think so.

Why? Yes, the Silence were trying to kill the Doctor, because they are trying to stop him answering "The First Question" on the fields of Trenzalore, which is when Silence will fall. The Silence are taking steps to prevent this from occurring.




Silence will fall when the question is asked (Doctor Who?).

You're missing a key point. TWORS has Dorian say that 'silence will fall' is a mistranslation - it's actually 'silence must fall'. The Silence want the question to remain unanswered - ie: when it's asked, the Doctor won't be there to answer it - so there will just be silence. As the Doctor also says in TWORS 'I never realised it was my silence.' The Silence know the Doctor will at some point be at Trenzalore and asked this question in a situation where he cannot avoid it or lie. They don't want it answered. They want there to be silence when the question is asked, because the Doctor won't be there to answer it.

Silence doesn't relate to some catastrophic thing that will happen after the question is answered. It's what they WANT to bring about as a state, when the question is supposed to be answered but is not.
 

Quick

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Where's that 50th anniversary set pic with the old TARDIS? Someone here mentioned it, and I tried to Google it.
 
These are getting to the point where they are serious spoilers, so people need to attach appropriate warnings and think about their tags. Even the above mentioned
TARDIS thing is a spoiler of a sort, as it really makes it far more likely it will be actual 10th Doctor and not Meta Crisis,
and not everyone may want to know that. That's why I spoilered it when I talked about it, and then 3 posts later somebody just said it in plain sight.

In my opinion the rule should just be anything announced by the BBC (for instance, today's alien reveal) as OK, but anything not like set report photos or leaks should be spoilered.

What are some good DW audio books?

It depends what you mean. Audio book or audio play/drama? The Big Finish stuff is the latter; full-cast audio plays. It's like just listening to an episode of Who.

I just recently listened to "Dark Eyes," the new reboot of the 8th Doctor stuff. It features a traumatised, approaching 9th Doctor take on the character after he lost a long-time companion. Daleks, a great new companion, Gallifrey Meddling, World War 1... it's a really good story. Loved it.
 

TheOMan

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Just watched this last night - really enjoyed it. I'm guessing people already pointed these out, but:

1. The book, Summer Falls, by Amelia (Pond) Williams!
2. Maybe just a production issue, but the book title looked off...sorta like Summer F alls.
3. The kid saying he was on the Tenth chapter and Clara responding that the Eleventh was the best, "you'll cry your eyes out". Foreshadow much?
4. I'm guessing we haven't seen the last of the Great Intelligence this season.
 

Zeppu

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Create new thread
Call it: Doctor Who 7b discussion |OT| NO 50TH ANNIVERSARY DISCUSSIONS
Get a whovian mod to help us enforce it.

I'm guilty of spoiling myself but I agree completely with all of you who want to try to avoid as much as possible.
 

obin_gam

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It depends what you mean. Audio book or audio play/drama? The Big Finish stuff is the latter; full-cast audio plays. It's like just listening to an episode of Who.

I just recently listened to "Dark Eyes," the new reboot of the 8th Doctor stuff. It features a traumatised, approaching 9th Doctor take on the character after he lost a long-time companion. Daleks, a great new companion, Gallifrey Meddling, World War 1... it's a really good story. Loved it.

Never listened to an audio drama before so that sounds very interesting! Can I just jump into the 8th Doctors stories where I want, with Dark Eyes I presume, or should I start all the way back from the first releases with McGann?
 
Create new thread
Call it: Doctor Who 7b discussion |OT| NO 50TH ANNIVERSARY DISCUSSIONS
Get a whovian mod to help us enforce it.

I'm guilty of spoiling myself but I agree completely with all of you who want to try to avoid as much as possible.

Well if you wanted to be really anal,

Doctor Who General OT
Doctor Who Series 7B OT
Doctor Who 50th Anniversary OT

Either way, I feel really stupid for not really noticing that the TARDIS had changed...
 

Wilester

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Create new thread
Call it: Doctor Who 7b discussion |OT| NO 50TH ANNIVERSARY DISCUSSIONS
Get a whovian mod to help us enforce it.

I'm guilty of spoiling myself but I agree completely with all of you who want to try to avoid as much as possible.

Yeah I'll second this.

I don't want to see spoilers but I'll always want to come in this thread. :(
 
Create new thread
Call it: Doctor Who 7b discussion |OT| NO 50TH ANNIVERSARY DISCUSSIONS
Get a whovian mod to help us enforce it.

I'm guilty of spoiling myself but I agree completely with all of you who want to try to avoid as much as possible.

I think it'd suck if people leave the thread because of this stuff, really, or for the community to be split.

I don't even think separate threads are necessary for clogging up OT worse, I just think that people need to actually think about what they're posting and tag it appropriately. Even then, one page ago someone was complaining about something officially announced by the BBC, so you can't please everyone, but I still would argue to whoever enforces that the best approach is just that "Officially Announced" = not spoiler / Not = Spoiler Tag.

One final request? Does anyone have a good comparison image of the exterior of Tennant's TARDIS vs. Smith's?

RTD: http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/gallery/s2_10gallery/1024/tardis.jpg
Moffat: http://cfmmusicscene.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/new-tardis-look-s51.jpg

In "The Eleventh Hour" the TARDIS regenerates its exterior as well as interior. The one that crash-lands in Amy's garden is the old one. It's the new one after it's rebuilt. It's really blue, though they have toned down the brightness a bit over the years.

Never listened to an audio drama before so that sounds very interesting! Can I just jump into the 8th Doctors stories where I want, with Dark Eyes I presume, or should I start all the way back from the first releases with McGann?

Yeah, it's a good jumping on point. I hadn't listened to any of the others - I know the companion died, that was it. That's enough info. If you like Dark Eyes, you can definitely go back from there, and there's more releases continuing with this darker take on the 8th Doctor planned going forward.
 

Zeppu

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Well if you wanted to be really anal,

Doctor Who General OT
Doctor Who Series 7B OT
Doctor Who 50th Anniversary OT

Either way, I feel really stupid for not really noticing that the TARDIS had changed...

7B would be the same as General OT except that we don't put 50th stuff in it.

I think it'd suck if people leave the thread because of this stuff, really, or for the community to be split.

I don't even think separate threads are necessary for clogging up OT worse, I just think that people need to actually think about what they're posting and tag it appropriately. Even then, one page ago someone was complaining about something officially announced by the BBC, so you can't please everyone, but I still would argue to whoever enforces that the best approach is just that "Officially Announced" = not spoiler / Not = Spoiler Tag

We could always create it in the community. It makes it a bit 'harder' to find, but at least those who do find it will be sure to have noticed the rule.
 
I think the problem is with things like Tennant coming back... you're going to know. It will be plastered everywhere. I do agree that doesn't mean we shouldn't try keeping things a secret though.
 
I added to that post, but they've definitely toned down the blue over the last few years. That photo was a fan-photo from Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone, the first episodes of Series 5 filmed. They graded it heavily in post production in series 5 by adjusting the colour tone of the footage shot to make it a bit less bright and primary, and in Series 6 repainted the prop. It's still a hell of a lot brighter than the RTD era one, mind.

The Moffat TARDIS is an interesting mix - the windows having that bold white outline around them is from the (non canon) 60s Doctor Who movie starring Peter Cushing (the first Who in colour), which Moffat had strong memories of. The 'T' shape in the windows is from the 70s version of the TARDIS.

The St John's Ambulance logo was added at the request of Mark Gatiss, who had strong memories of that. It only appeared on the first/second Doctor's TARDIS, and disappeared after that.

The bright colour... is all Moffat, I think. "The bluest blue, ever." It's also the biggest one, I think, dimension-wise. I really like it.

The RTD one is basically a redo of the original 1963 one in terms of colour and style, just without the Ambulance symbol.

7B would be the same as General OT except that we don't put 50th stuff in it.

We could always create it in the community. It makes it a bit 'harder' to find, but at least those who do find it will be sure to have noticed the rule.

I understand the logic, but we're a pretty smallish community in this thread - I really don't think it's that much to ask people to think before they post and apply the appropriate warnings and tags. Adding a warning to please tag your damn spoilers in the title/OP would be handy, too.
 
Tennant's TARDIS has seen some shit. I like that.

Matt's looks real blue in that one picture but it doesn't show too much on telly. Looks more wooden, too.
 
I'm the opposite. The 50th is so far off and I don't really mind set pics, but people have been sent screeners of the current run and lots of sites are posting "hints" that pretty much give the episodes away.

I want to discuss the episode but I don't want to read spoilers from people who've seen the episodes (especially the finale).
 

Zeppu

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I added to that post, but they've definitely toned down the blue over the last few years. That photo was a fan-photo from Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone, the first episodes of Series 5 filmed. They graded it heavily in post production in series 5 by adjusting the colour tone of the footage shot to make it a bit less bright and primary, and in Series 6 repainted the prop. It's still a hell of a lot brighter than the RTD era one, mind.

The Moffat TARDIS is an interesting mix - the windows having that bold white outline around them is from the (non canon) 60s Doctor Who movie starring Peter Cushing, which Moffat had strong memories of. The 'T' shape in the windows is from the 70s version of the TARDIS.

The St John's Ambulance logo was added at the request of Mark Gatiss, who had strong memories of that. It only appeared on the first/second Doctor's TARDIS, and disappeared after that.

The bright colour... is all Moffat, I think. "The bluest blue, ever." It's also the biggest one, I think, dimension-wise. I really like it.

The RTD one is basically a redo of the original 1963 one in terms of colour and style, just without the Ambulance symbol.

It never really looks as blue during the show though. It is much brighter than the older one but I don't think it looks as bright as the pic you posted during episodes.
Edit: Ah, you actually said pretty much that yourself.

I understand the logic, but we're a pretty smallish community in this thread - I really don't think it's that much to ask people to think before they post and apply the appropriate warnings and tags. Adding a warning to please tag your damn spoilers in the title/OP would be handy, too.

I agree, but the problem is that that now us, as we're participating in this discussion now will agree and remember but someone who's been absent for a few days will miss this. Adding it to the OP now will have no purpose since no one re-reads OPs once the thread gets going. We could always PM a mod to add it to the title to make sure everyone's on the same level.
 
I'm the opposite. The 50th is so far off and I don't really mind set pics, but people have been sent screeners of the current run and lots of sites are posting "hints" that pretty much give the episodes away.

I want to discuss the episode but I don't want to read spoilers from people who've seen the episodes (especially the finale).

I'd argue the hints and stuff don't constitute an official BBC release, as they've not been press release, on the official DW site, etc etc, so should be tagged.
 
I'd argue the hints and stuff don't constitute an official BBC release, as they've not been press released, on the official BBC site, etc etc, so should be tagged.

Oh, I agree, I just don't want then to be posted without being properly spoiler tagged.




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I think Moffat said he want 11's TARDIS to look like the one from the Cushing movies. Best pictures I could find:

dr-who-and-the-daleks-tardis.jpg

london.jpeg
 
Why was he on for only one season? I really liked him as The Doctor, not that I don't love them all but I felt we didn't have enough time with Eccleston. He reminded me or a zany modern day Max Headroom
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Mind you my first entry into the Who series was the 2005 reboot all the way to just pre Matt Smith and then the classics. So Eccleston was my first Doctor really.

Edit: He was also good on that show "Cracker"

I remember being pretty pissed off at the end of his season when he regenerated.

I honestly stopped watching the show for a while because I didn't like Tennant at first. When I started to rewatch the those seasons I realized I missed at least 3-4 episodes, which was kinda awesome.
 
I remember being pretty pissed off at the end of his season when he regenerated.

I honestly stopped watching the show for a while because I didn't like Tennant at first. When I started to rewatch the those seasons I realized I missed at least 3-4 episodes, which was kinda awesome.

Ah yes, the cycle of hating the new Doctor for a little while. Been there.
 
McGann's denying he's involved on Twitter.

Mind you, Billie strenuously denied she was involved too. There seems to be A Line, one way or another.
 
I dunno why people are bitching about 50th anniversary "spoilers". I'm sorry but the cast and monsters are gonna be heavily promoted before the actually airing. You can't really "avoid" it.
 
Ah yes, the cycle of hating the new Doctor for a little while. Been there.

Haha, yeah. But I did love Matt Smith pretty much right away.

The Master on the other hand... *shudder.*
I was THRILLED that Derek Jacobi was going to get to be the Master. He really seemed like he could have been the classic Master from the older series, but then they instantly turn him into the Looney Toons coocoo badguy to have him be the evil version of Tennant. :(


...Whoa, I just fell down a crazy rabbit hole on IMDB. Apparently Derek Jacobi was the Master in a 2003 Doctor Who mini-series, and Richard E. Grant (the Great Intelligence/Dr. Simeon in the Christmas special and this season) was THE DOCTOR!

MIND BLOWN
 

Slime

Banned
Surprised as hell they're bringing back the
Zygons
. Hope Clara is more than just
some random girl they've captured. If the explanation for her appearances throughout time and repeated deaths is just that they've been using a body-print of her to spy on the Doctor, I'll be bummed
.
 
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