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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life
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mightynine
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Should be a banner across the top of every page:
IF YOU HAVEN'T WATCHED THE EPISODE, BASICALLY.....RUN!
And if you get spoiled, I'm sorry. I'm so, so sorry.
IF YOU HAVEN'T WATCHED THE EPISODE, BASICALLY.....RUN!
And if you get spoiled, I'm sorry. I'm so, so sorry.
Hot Coldman
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Correct. Emmerdale rehashes the "Look, a lesbian!" storyline every decade.
King of the Potato People
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How will you manage until her next appearance?
The Elite
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Thinking about it more and more and I definitely think that Clara Oswin will be a post-"Aslyum" character when she comes back this Christmas. Moffat talked a lot about this being a companion unlike any other. A Dalek companion would be pretty fucking unique.
How we get there is another story entirely. I'd like to think that he beamed her up to the TARDIS along with everyone else just before the Aslyum exploded and that he's going to eventually create a human/dalek form for her like we saw in this episode.
There are so many more interesting story ideas you can play with than going with a Pre-Alaska Clara.
That's the one I want to see.
EDIT: NO ONE SHOULD BE USING OSWIN AVATARS UNTIL THE EPISODE HAS AIRED IN NORTH AMERICA
Just in case.
How we get there is another story entirely. I'd like to think that he beamed her up to the TARDIS along with everyone else just before the Aslyum exploded and that he's going to eventually create a human/dalek form for her like we saw in this episode.
There are so many more interesting story ideas you can play with than going with a Pre-Alaska Clara.
That's the one I want to see.
EDIT: NO ONE SHOULD BE USING OSWIN AVATARS UNTIL THE EPISODE HAS AIRED IN NORTH AMERICA
Just in case.
King of the Potato People
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Moffat loves killing off companions, he can't help himself!
Hot Coldman
Banned
I hope Jenna pops up in the next 4 episodes too, getting killed off in extravagant manners each time until the Doctor's head explodes.
The Elite
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That would be neat.
Thanks for reminding me, not that I can get it right anyway.
How long is that, anyway?Honestly, Moffat has written himself a great introduction, it's what he does with her that matters at this point.
Lord British
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Oswin.
Winos.
Win OS.
Windows OS.
Oswin is viral marketing for Windows 8.
Winos.
Win OS.
Windows OS.
Oswin is viral marketing for Windows 8.
The Elite
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MIND BLOWN!
frontieruk
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I can't.
I need my new avatar now! I've had Amy avatars since The Eleventh Hour back in the days of .gif rotating avatars.Hot Coldman
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Amy seems really old-hat now, huh
APZonerunner
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Great episode.
Bit pissed off about
Oh, and, yes, she's absolutely gorgeous. As someone who always found Karen objectively hot but not my personal cup of tea, Jenna is amaaazing.
Bit pissed off about
the memory wipe thing. Hopefully that is undone as part of some sort of storyline later on, as the concept of the Doctor's greatest enemy not remembering all his past victories is... I dunno. I just don't like it. With the show reaching its 50 years it should be celebrating its history. The idea of a Dalek that doesn't know about the events of Genesis, or the Time War, just doesn't sit right to me. The good news is that it is easily undone in a sense; all the Daleks have to do is capture some other live form that has full knowledge of the war (The Cybermen'll do, as they traded memories in the void after 'Doomsday', which is how the Cybermen had record of every regeneration) to redownload.
Oh, and, yes, she's absolutely gorgeous. As someone who always found Karen objectively hot but not my personal cup of tea, Jenna is amaaazing.
Sir_Crocodile
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maybe the dalek eternal will remember.
One of the Eighth Doctor Big Finish series had a character - the Headhunter - turn up in every episode building to a climax in the final episode. The follow-up series had the same *actress* in every episode, but playing a different character each time. Made it hard to keep up with!
Napoleonthechimp
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This was a great episode and I'm glad it's back.
She's no stinking Dalek. She's a converted human and thus superior! /Dalekracism
She's no stinking Dalek. She's a converted human and thus superior! /Dalekracism
DrForester
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People should know better than to enter this thread after UK airing anyways.
StealthGoblin
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Anyone got a link to a listing of Rivers TARDIS diary? I know they are for sale somewhere.
Thinking further, and playing with "The question you've been running from all your life"...
It's been implied that it's "Doctor Who?". So what does running from that mean?. The outcome for these daleks have implies that it's running from *entities not knowing him*. Does he *seek* fame, and in 'running from' entities being ignorant of him he is in turn making entities know - and fear, or revere - him? Or is the 'running' unintentional, and just a consequence of his actions?
Napoleonthechimp
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We should stick you in an asylum for such crazy talk (however, the admittance of her attractiveness might save you).
I didn't like her either. Thought she was really annoying.
Hot Coldman
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I had my doubts about her casting, but I enjoyed her personality. What Amy has in sass, Oswin seems to have in cheekiness. She seems fun.
hardcastlemccormick
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Superb. I was a little worried about Series 7 after the last episode of six but this one was fantastic.
The more interesting possibility is that Dr finds her on his travels, they do the whole Dr Who thing for a bit, then her season finale is when she ends up on that crashed ship on that Dalek wreck before the events of this episode.
Would be interesting to have a companion that we know is living on borrowed time, although that would kill a lot of the tension as we know she cant die until the moment that its her time.
I also think its interesting the Daleks now dont remember the Dr, I guess that means they have nothing to fear... so whats stopping them from going all out crazy?
They've already done that with River Song.
Love how similar the scene with Oswin/Dalek in chains and the Doctor is shot to the scene with Eccleston and the Dalek from series one. The bit where the camera pans behind Eleven to reveal the dalek is the exact opposite of the reveal in Dalek, where it pans from the dalek in chains to Nine pounding on the door to get out.
Absolutely beautiful.
Absolutely beautiful.
King of the Potato People
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Perhaps that's SM's tribute to the other best Dalek episode in NewWho.
UnblessedSoul
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I really liked Oswin, why did it turn out this way
DeathbyVolcano
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Nope, sorry, anyone who doesn't like Clara already is loony. She is OOZING with incredible wit, smarts, and omg her eyes.
I love Amy, but only really when its her and Rory. She's fiery and cute, but I feel we've been repeating a lot of the same themes with companions. They all seem...too reliant on the Doctor. Rose showed a bit of finesse at the end of Tennant's run...Martha became a bad ass solider...but they all still melted and became helpless when the Doctor was needed. Amy sort of suffers this as well,but Rory balances her out, being that he is the REAL person in her life that keeps her alive. That's why I like their dynamic so much.
But think about an intelligence equal to the Doctor. Not just a human, but a human with a past (future?) that the Doctor is torn about. Here is this lovely intelligent woman, but at the same time...it's his sworn enemy.
Would be a great look at the Doctor fighting his inner demons.
I love Amy, but only really when its her and Rory. She's fiery and cute, but I feel we've been repeating a lot of the same themes with companions. They all seem...too reliant on the Doctor. Rose showed a bit of finesse at the end of Tennant's run...Martha became a bad ass solider...but they all still melted and became helpless when the Doctor was needed. Amy sort of suffers this as well,but Rory balances her out, being that he is the REAL person in her life that keeps her alive. That's why I like their dynamic so much.
But think about an intelligence equal to the Doctor. Not just a human, but a human with a past (future?) that the Doctor is torn about. Here is this lovely intelligent woman, but at the same time...it's his sworn enemy.
Would be a great look at the Doctor fighting his inner demons.
I'd agree, but someone would end up quoting my avatar.
The Technomancer
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Yay new page. Before anyone posts spoilers, when is this available in the US again?
Exterminieren
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Thinking about it, is this the episode since The Eleventh Hour with the least I Am The Doctor in the score?
Some excellent music in this; I liked the shift from epic choirs to discordant weirdness for the Daleks.
Some excellent music in this; I liked the shift from epic choirs to discordant weirdness for the Daleks.
NekoToshiro
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What is this .gif from? I thought it was from "Once Bitten" but I didn't see this scene.
King of the Potato People
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I wonder whether the Toreador Song in the transmission will have a more important role later in the series.
CHEEZMO
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Truman Show, I think.
broadwayrock
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I loved the episode.
It was a interesting choice of casting Romanian actress Anamaria Marinca who was the lead in the film '4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days'.
It was a interesting choice of casting Romanian actress Anamaria Marinca who was the lead in the film '4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days'.
CHEEZMO
Obsidian fan
Off topic but this is a pretty good film.
It'll probably serve as the "Fish Fingers and Custard" of the series.
On another note, there's already fan videos of Oswin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwkVdYULHpM
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Oh happy day. I plan to watch the DW premiere and a Touch of Cloth back to back today.
The Elite
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Just finished up A Touch of Cloth. So good.
Also, if you haven't seen Asylum you need to get the hell out of this thread.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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But it is from The Truman Show.
I'm booking it. No spoilers for me, mwahahahaha
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