We'll have to see, but I think that may be a bit too far into zealot territory for the character.
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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life
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We'll have to see, but I think that may be a bit too far into zealot territory for the character.
infiniteloop
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That would be terrible.
Wow, just rewatched A Good Man Goes to War, and look at this discussion:
*River talks about her birthday*
"I've come from the Doctor too." -Rory
"Yes, but at a different point of time." - River
"Unless there is two of them." - Rory
"Now...that is a whole different birthday" - River
Could Moffat plan the 50th this far ahead?
*River talks about her birthday*
"I've come from the Doctor too." -Rory
"Yes, but at a different point of time." - River
"Unless there is two of them." - Rory
"Now...that is a whole different birthday" - River
Could Moffat plan the 50th this far ahead?
peanutbutterlatte
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Wow, just rewatched A Good Man Goes to War, and look at this discussion:
*River talks about her birthday*
"I've come from the Doctor too."
"Yes, but at a different point of time."
"Unless there is two of them."
"Now...that is a whole different birthday"
Could Moffat plan the 50th this far ahead?
Already been done in a Series 6 DVD extra.
You are right, it might just be a coincidence then. Not like there were not multiple doctors a few times before and wont be after the anniversary.
I'd be happy to take it as a slight out-of-universe hinting at the structure behind the show - a bit like how John Smith's parents in Human Nature were Sydney and Verity. The event River's referring to *isn't* the anniversary - in-universe - but it's an in-universe comment with a deliberate out-of-universe allusion.
Box of Bunnies
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Wow, just rewatched A Good Man Goes to War, and look at this discussion:
Could Moffat plan the 50th this far ahead?
Looking a bit too deeply into a threesome joke.
Wow, that is just nasty -.-
Box of Bunnies
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Hey, I'm not the one that wrote it.
APZonerunner
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Some bits of news, I suppose:
Old News, but a good reminder, also, since Series 7 is now over - Tom McRae (Rise of the Cybermen/The Age of Steel, The Girl Who Waited) said Moffat had pitched him an episode to write way back in September of last year but said it wouldn't make it into Series 7, so with Chibnall, Gaiman and him plus Gatiss who is a given we already know a chunk of Series 8's writers.
If we have two-parters again (god, please) that'll actually be over half the writers.
The fact that Chibnall has been asked to write but hasn't yet committed as of this week... it doesn't bode well for Series 8 happening in Spring 2014, really. Go go production team, excelling themselves year after year.
- Chris Chibnall (Torchwood Series 1, 42, The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood, The Power of Three) has been asked to write for Series 8 but doesn't yet know if he's going to have time.
- "No truth whatsoever" in Chibnall potentially being new showrunner - "Broadchurch is my priority."
- Neil Gaiman would like to do the Yeti (old Who villain who was actually linked to the great intelligence) and seems to talk as if he's going to do series 8
- The BBC does a wonderful 'feedback show' called 'Points of View' where they read out reader opinions. They did a two-minute segment on Who series 7, and it gives a glimpse into the criticisms from a wider audience.
Old News, but a good reminder, also, since Series 7 is now over - Tom McRae (Rise of the Cybermen/The Age of Steel, The Girl Who Waited) said Moffat had pitched him an episode to write way back in September of last year but said it wouldn't make it into Series 7, so with Chibnall, Gaiman and him plus Gatiss who is a given we already know a chunk of Series 8's writers.
If we have two-parters again (god, please) that'll actually be over half the writers.
The fact that Chibnall has been asked to write but hasn't yet committed as of this week... it doesn't bode well for Series 8 happening in Spring 2014, really. Go go production team, excelling themselves year after year.
Box of Bunnies
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#recallrusty
infiniteloop
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APZonerunner
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Based on this information plus the previous suggestion it wouldn't start filming until late this year or quite possibly even early next, in truth we're probably looking at no Who from Christmas right through until August or September, for an Autumn run, like 7a - which was described at the time as a one-off. The question now, I suppose, is if that run will be 13 episodes or 6 or something.
Box of Bunnies
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Welp, guess it's time to start stocking up on some more classic Who DVDs to get my fix throughout most of next year then. Still due for a rewatch from the 2005 series as well, so I guess there's that.
Things really have been a mess the last few years :\
KuwabaraTheMan
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So glad that the bold decisions made by the production team have lead us to get 14 episodes every two years. Bravo, guys!
APZonerunner
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I'm sure Moffat's doing everything he can and there are more factors at play than he can control, but it really is starting to piss me off. We've come quite a way from 2008, when we got 39 Who-universe televised episodes a year (14 Who, 13 Torchwood, 12 SJA.)
Just remembered Jenna's comment that there'd be a "big gap" between Series 7 and 8 as well - this fits with that.
Just remembered Jenna's comment that there'd be a "big gap" between Series 7 and 8 as well - this fits with that.
Wait. There's going to be another series of Broadchurch? WHY? It was fantastic but there's no room for another one.
APZonerunner
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To be honest, I reckon Chibnall would've been in the running for showrunner before Broadchurch blew up massive and got renewed. He's now got a series all of his own that had higher ratings than every Series of Who bar 4, of course he won't be the new showrunner.
I reckon it was also better than every Series of Who bar 5, but I don't see how they'll make it work again. Is Tennant going to be in it again? Is it going to be set in Broadchurch again?
APZonerunner
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About nine months. Ten if you include the Christmas Special, which is usually produced at the 'top' of a new series. That's why they 'double bank' an episode and we get episodes like Blink/The Girl Who Waited/Love & Monsters/etc - they make up for the Smith/Tennant doing 14 episodes instead of 13 by giving them an episode where they're barely in it and can take some downtime. It's usually filmed at the same time as another episode as well.
KuwabaraTheMan
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That's been the promise every time, though. Series 6b was supposed to give us a shorter gap between seasons, but then we got the longest gap between episodes since the show came back on (over 8 months between The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe and Asylum of the Daleks). Then the Series 7 split was so that we could get more episodes than ever in the 50th anniversary year (instead we're getting 8 regular episodes and 2 specials). At this point, I don't know if things are ever going to get back on track.
That seems really slow to me, especially for 13 episodes.
They could get scheduling back on track if they just took a full year off (or did a year of just a few specials instead of a whole series), but I doubt the BBC will want that.
There's still pre- and post-production work to be done.
APZonerunner
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It's about 3 weeks actual filming per episode - 4 weeks for an hour-long one like Christmas or the 50th. So that timing doesn't include post, either.
British work laws are pretty strict for actors and other crew members - it's not legal to do 14-18 hour shooting days like it is in the US. That's a big part of the reason behind it all. That plus a large number of difficult to set-up effects shots and things makes Who particularly slow to film. Doing 22 or 24 episode a year like a US drama is literally impossible on the British schedule. That's why it was designed to be 13/14 episodes a year - two series' makes, roughly, a US 'season', so RTD/Gardner conceived that format to help international sales - every two series' they could sell as one big 'season' abroad. That's gotten less important under Moffat, as with BBC America expanding the channel is more flexible to the show again (though it still helps Who to sell in Japan and such.)
DrForester
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I lost it when they started doing the "Line" bit in Dalek voices.
I have not gotten that far yet, but that gives me something to look forward to. I love the "Line" bit.
catapult37
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Now my mind is getting all fan-fictiony, but wouldn't it be interesting if the Doctor had a companion who ultimately betrayed him and allied him/herself with an enemy? No copouts this time? Like if Rory never forgave the Doctor for his carelessness with their lives.
BTW I agree with you on another point which is that there is zero chemistry between Clara and 11. Her being willing to sacrifice herself made ZERO sense to me. The series has not shown that she is that dedicated to the doctor; far from it. She seems mostly aloof in each episode.
I also feel they completely failed to sell me on the "Impossible Girl" idea this whole series up til now. I was never remotely as interested in the "mystery" as 11. Without more hints dropped in the episodes, there was not enough to actually connect the various incarnations of Clara to each other. There was "run you clever boy" but man, that's pretty thin. You'd think someone who's seen as many people as the Doctor would have seen plenty of "repeats" of very similar people by now and dismissed it.
Maybe if the reincarnations were bleeding over to modern Clara as nightmares or memories... just something to connect her to them.
I love the crap out of NuWho but I thought this episode was garbage plot salad. No stakes or motivations were ever established. No emotional throughlines. It was a barely comprehensible trailer for the 50th.
Very Torchwoody vibe from this scene (including the music.)
http://io9.com/the-whisperman-star-in-this-deleted-scene-from-the-doct-509943120
Probably why it was cut. It seems a little too dark for Who.
http://io9.com/the-whisperman-star-in-this-deleted-scene-from-the-doct-509943120
Probably why it was cut. It seems a little too dark for Who.
Hot Coldman
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What's with the "waking up" music from Amy's Choice being in there?
SquiddyCracker
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Holy shit, I had a really funky Dr Who dream.
Basically, Alfred from the new Batman-trilogy was the Doctor's new companion, and for some reason the Doctor had travelled back in time and accidentally changed his companion's life. So he kept travelling back trying to correct it, but it just turned more and more complicated.
Eventually, Alfred was a little girl (that looked like young Amy), and did his whole "I'm so sorry"-spiel.
Basically, Alfred from the new Batman-trilogy was the Doctor's new companion, and for some reason the Doctor had travelled back in time and accidentally changed his companion's life. So he kept travelling back trying to correct it, but it just turned more and more complicated.
Eventually, Alfred was a little girl (that looked like young Amy), and did his whole "I'm so sorry"-spiel.
They probably just threw something in there they felt fit with the scene.
And I thought I needed therapy, lol
Hot Coldman
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It really threw me off. That piece of music has very specific narrative connotations, they can't just use it willy nilly
APZonerunner
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Christmas episodes aside (and the Tennant Specials) Who isn't scored. Murray Gold just composes a certain length of generic music based on themes sent to him by Moffat, and they edit it all together in the edit. Incredibly, for instance, the version of This is Gallifrey wasn't composed TO the pictures, but rather composed as a generic idea before that stuff was even filmed and then the show was edited to the music.
Music's reused all the time - I mean, sure, some are tied more firmly to concepts than others (If you hear Doomsday or the Dalek chanting there's a specific connection, of course) but it really isn't unusual. Weird stuff gets reused in weird places all the time.
They're really gonna have to decide whether they want the companion relationship to be romantic or not. This in-between sometimes not sometimes ridiculously flirty deal is jarring constantly. It's like they don't want the responsibility of putting the Doctor in a relationship but want all the sexual tension and double entendres anyway.
They went for a straight up "can't spit it out" thing with the Doctor and Rose, but ever since then it's just been a mess. Like the Doctor would go from flirty with Amy to "gotta get you and Rory back together!" in the same scene sometimes.
If you're worried about chemistry or something, go hire Richard Madden as the 12th Doctor. He's sort of ginger ish.
They went for a straight up "can't spit it out" thing with the Doctor and Rose, but ever since then it's just been a mess. Like the Doctor would go from flirty with Amy to "gotta get you and Rory back together!" in the same scene sometimes.
If you're worried about chemistry or something, go hire Richard Madden as the 12th Doctor. He's sort of ginger ish.
Snytbaggen
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Alfred as a companion sounds kinda awesome though.
SquiddyCracker
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More crazy hijinks:
I'm watching Doctor Who the Official Movie on Lovefilm
I'm watching Doctor Who the Official Movie on Lovefilm
davidcotton
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For those curious about the audios Big Finish have rather nicely posted a short story for free download. Called Urgent Calls.
Stars Colin Baker (didn't mind him on tv in the end, great in the audios) as the Sixth Doctor.
https://soundcloud.com/big-finish/doctor-who-urgent-calls
Stars Colin Baker (didn't mind him on tv in the end, great in the audios) as the Sixth Doctor.
https://soundcloud.com/big-finish/doctor-who-urgent-calls
HamSandwich
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Not sure if this is out of place, but Sam Jackson is recording any 300 word monologue to whatever post on reddit gets the most upvotes.
Might I suggest the Pandorica speech?
http://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comm..._jackson_and_ill_record_a_video_of_me/ca8buaf
Might I suggest the Pandorica speech?
http://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comm..._jackson_and_ill_record_a_video_of_me/ca8buaf
Hot Coldman
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Two and a Half Doctors
StalkerUKCG
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More crazy hijinks:
I'm watching Doctor Who the Official Movie on Lovefilm
The 8th Doctor one? That got put up on Netflix Recently
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