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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life

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Exterminieren said:
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There are a lot of dangling plotlines on Doctor Who, going back to Matt Smith's first story. Why did the TARDIS blow up? Why were the Silence so keen to kill the Doctor before he answered the First Question? And showrunner Steven Moffat promises that everything will be explained this Christmas.

When we caught up with Moffat last weekend at Comic-Con, we asked him, "Do you feel like you owe viewers some closure on the big questions, like who blew up the TARDIS? Or what the Silence was up to?"

And he responded, "Well, we are going to do it all. It's going to end at Christmas. Yeah, [there will be closure]. But 'owe them'? I don't know about 'owing.' But yeah, there's a plan, and we will end the Eleventh Doctor's run with the answers to some of those questions."
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lol, "some".

If he has the perfect idea for a story that involves River Song, she'll be back. "But I quite liked where we got to at the end of 'The Name of the Doctor,' with him saying goodbye to her. So we'll see."
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http://io9.com/steven-moffat-promises-closure-on-his-doctor-who-storyl-924543261
 
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Wait, so Moff is answering the big questions in the Christmas special as opposed to the 50th anniversary? Strange, but as long as we get answers, I don't mind either way.
 
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Those better be some excellent special features to justify doubling the price of buying all of the episodes included (S7P1, S7P2, The Snowmen) separately.
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" Additional content includes:
• Behind the scenes featurettes for every episode plus The Making of the Gunslinger and Creating Clara.
• Other Featurettes including: Doctor Who in the US, Last Days of the Ponds, Pond Life, The Science of Doctor Who, The Companions and Doctor Who at Comic Con.
• Prequels to episodes: Asylum of the Daleks, The Snowmen (x3), The Bells of Saint John and The Name of the Doctor (x2).
• Audio commentaries for episodes: The Snowmen, Cold War, Hide, and The Crimson Horror."
 
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JonathanEx said:
What the fuck is going on with decision making on the commercial side?!
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No kidding. As someone who waits for the complete series sets, I skip out on the small releases. As much as it wasn't exactly my favourite episode, I'm glad it's in there for NA for the sake of consistency and completion.
 
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Ive heard from a friend that the 50th anniversary episode will be broadcast in 200 different countries at the same time (they did something similar with the last episode of Lost).
Its this true? It would be strange in Spain for example, where they havent broadcast the last season yet (dub or not) in that shitty kids channel where they do Doctor Who. Maybe is only in señected cinemas around here? Could be really cool to get one in kinepolis.

Not that im complaining though.

EDIT: OH! seems true
http://whatculture.com/tv/doctor-who-50th-anniversary-to-be-internationally-simulcast-over-200-countries.php
Is there a list of countries somewhere?
 
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infiniteloop said:
" Additional content includes:
• Behind the scenes featurettes for every episode plus The Making of the Gunslinger and Creating Clara.
• Other Featurettes including: Doctor Who in the US, Last Days of the Ponds, Pond Life, The Science of Doctor Who, The Companions and Doctor Who at Comic Con.
• Prequels to episodes: Asylum of the Daleks, The Snowmen (x3), The Bells of Saint John and The Name of the Doctor (x2).
• Audio commentaries for episodes: The Snowmen, Cold War, Hide, and The Crimson Horror."
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I might be wrong here, but all those prequels have been released online already right? No problem if they have, but I was hoping for some new dvd-exclusive mini-episodes, like they did with the last two seasons.
 
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Listening to the 8th Doctor Audio Plays makes me wish he got at least one full tv season.


not made by fox though
 
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Rabid-Coot said:
There was a little over 200 countries in the Olympics last year.
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Just looked an article that says the best answer is 196. So even being that number it would be strange for all the broadcasting doctor who, so it has to be locations then, i suppose the majority will be in great britain and usa and then te rest of the world will get 1 or 2 cinemas like in paris or madrid. The things is that the article specifically says that the BBC wants to thank the different broadcasting channels around the world that have decided to do the special event, so i dont really know what it means then.
 
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Trike said:
Listening to the 8th Doctor Audio Plays makes me wish he got at least one full tv season.


not made by fox though
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I would be happy if they could just animate the Audio Plays, get the guys who have been doing the animated missing eps to do these, I'd be happy with that.
 
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Went to the Cardiff version of the Doctor Who experience today. The adventure stuff is great, plops you into a little story with Matt. Has some brief audience participation. Lovely recreation of 11's (old) TARDIS with a moving floor that shakes and jostles as it 'flies' and stuff. There's a nicely cleverly constructed moment where you walk through the doors of a full-size police box which of course pushes out into a larger room that's the control room replica, but carries the illusion of bigger on the inside well enough. Great Weeping Angels bit with lights going on and off and them 'moving', with the Doctor instructing you to watch them but to move quickly. A little girl cried! Plus, some fun Dalek stuff, where in the canon of the 'adventure' the tour group helps the Doctor with there's a civil war between surviving Davros-bred Stolen Earth Daleks and New Paradigm ones. This should be canon.

Nice little 'mini episode'. Some great clips from Matt. Mental to think they'll have to bin all that and do it over with the new man next year, so glad I saw it while I could.

Cool to stand on the remnants of the RTD-era TARDIS, though a bit of a bummer how little of it remains.

Oh, and it starts with a great moment where -- spoilering this in case anybody here plans to go:
You watch a sort of montage video with some new, some old voice over from Matt about going on an adventure with him. All the way throughout there's a massive vertical crack down the centre of the screen. It just looks like the wall they're projecting onto is cracked and broken. At the end of the video, the crack in time appears, rotates clockwise... and then slots PERFECTLY onto the crack that'd been bugging you. It was a genius decision to turn it vertical, because it makes it less recognizable. The crack splits open, revealing a door behind the screen, and you step through there onto a replica of the Starship from The Beast Below.

There's one of the nodes there from Silence in the Library, and the face moves - projected on - and points to you. It shows you a few things - including the giant telescope from Tooth and Claw - as it's framed as a museum. Then there's a red alert, the Doctor appears on screens, speaks to you (he's trapped in the Pandorica - a second one - "It's not even a different colour! Boring!") and then there's the noise of the TARDIS materializing... and there's some very clever use of fake walls to make it appear as though it's 'materializing'. Then you step aboard...
 
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Worthintendo said:
I would be happy if they could just animate the Audio Plays, get the guys who have been doing the animated missing eps to do these, I'd be happy with that.
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I agree. just finished Invaders from Mars and it was great. Still, sucks that he got shafted out of a season. Why didn't RTD just not start with him. Time War?
 
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I'm really curious if they'll be showing the 50th over here in the States commercial-free so it's truly synced up or will they force in some commercials and simply start at the same time?
 
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Boem

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APZonerunner said:
Went to the Cardiff version of the Doctor Who experience today. The adventure stuff is great, plops you into a little story with Matt. Has some brief audience participation. Lovely recreation of 11's (old) TARDIS with a moving floor that shakes and jostles as it 'flies' and stuff. There's a nicely cleverly constructed moment where you walk through the doors of a full-size police box which of course pushes out into a larger room that's the control room replica, but carries the illusion of bigger on the inside well enough. Great Weeping Angels bit with lights going on and off and them 'moving', with the Doctor instructing you to watch them but to move quickly. A little girl cried! Plus, some fun Dalek stuff, where in the canon of the 'adventure' the tour group helps the Doctor with there's a civil war between surviving Davros-bred Stolen Earth Daleks and New Paradigm ones. This should be canon.

Nice little 'mini episode'. Some great clips from Matt. Mental to think they'll have to bin all that and do it over with the new man next year, so glad I saw it while I could.

Cool to stand on the remnants of the RTD-era TARDIS, though a bit of a bummer how little of it remains.

Oh, and it starts with a great moment where -- spoilering this in case anybody here plans to go:
You watch a sort of montage video with some new, some old voice over from Matt about going on an adventure with him. All the way throughout there's a massive vertical crack down the centre of the screen. It just looks like the wall they're projecting onto is cracked and broken. At the end of the video, the crack in time appears, rotates clockwise... and then slots PERFECTLY onto the crack that'd been bugging you. It was a genius decision to turn it vertical, because it makes it less recognizable. The crack splits open, revealing a door behind the screen, and you step through there onto a replica of the Starship from The Beast Below.

There's one of the nodes there from Silence in the Library, and the face moves - projected on - and points to you. It shows you a few things - including the giant telescope from Tooth and Claw - as it's framed as a museum. Then there's a red alert, the Doctor appears on screens, speaks to you (he's trapped in the Pandorica - a second one - "It's not even a different colour! Boring!") and then there's the noise of the TARDIS materializing... and there's some very clever use of fake walls to make it appear as though it's 'materializing'. Then you step aboard...
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Yeah, went to that a couple of years ago when it was still in London. It's pretty fun. I was there at the same time as a group of mentally challenged people and a family wth a 5 or 6-year old kid dressed as 11. Best tour group ever (although I had to let the others fly the Tardis, because otherwise it'd make me look like the biggest asshole in the world. Can't say I wasn't the tiniest bit jealous :p). They were all super into it, especially during the Dalek part. I saw this before series 7 started, and when I learned that Asylum of the Daleks was coming up I was sure they were going to address that new vs old Dalek war. Guess not though. It's fun that they addressed the different designs though, not something you'd expect from a small attraction like this.
 
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At comic con Moffat said he'd finished 22 pages of Christmas, so they're either starting on an incomplete script or he banged out the back half very quickly! It's usually about a page a minute, so 22 isn't even halfway!

Quote from Moffat RE: Regeneration--

"Vastra, Jenny and Strax are all enormously popular characters, and we've got Clara still continuing," Moffat confirmed. "[That] allows us to do [the regeneration] in a very different way from the way that we did it in 'The Eleventh Hour'."
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[*]So expect those three to stick around. Moffat also says in the same interview that he already knows how Series 8 will end and where it is building to... so, er -- it sounds like he's staying for at least TWO years, then? As he presumably is building to a pre-planned series 9.

EDIT: Other bits from comic con interviews:

Moffat "didn't fully understand" what the Valeyard was in Trial of a Time Lord, and mentioning him in The Name of the Doctor was a fun nod for fans in an episode where they reveal he has a darker side. So probably not a planned plot thread.

"Not really sure" if this is the end of River. "Clearly the implication is that she's met more than two Doctors. It'll now be story driven - if we've got an idea she fits into."
 
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APZonerunner said:
"[That] allows us to do [the regeneration] in a very different way from the way that we did it in 'The Eleventh Hour'."
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That quote really piqued my interest.

What if we don't see a new Doctor at the end of the Christmas Special and the next episode to follow (Episode 1 a la "The Eleventh Hour") has the companions involved in finding the Doctor or helping the Doctor complete his regeneration?

Then again, it could simply be the fact that the Doctor will have existing companions around this time which inherently makes it different from "The Eleventh Hour."

Probably the latter.
 
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He's talking in the interview specifically about how he's less panicked and that it's easier this time around, so he just means having an ensemble around which to grow. The same way it was easier to introduce Tennant's Doctor through how Jackie, Rose and Mickey perceived him... I mean, he's barely even in his debut, as it's all about them coming around to him.

What is interesting is that he says of the Eleventh Hour - "that isn't how Doctor Who is supposed to be," which indicates to me maybe that he'll coordinate with his successor more so that there's more of an overlap than with the massive transition from RTD.
 
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APZonerunner said:
He's talking in the interview specifically about how he's less panicked and that it's easier this time around, so he just means having an ensemble around which to grow. The same way it was easier to introduce Tennant's Doctor through how Jackie, Rose and Mickey perceived him... I mean, he's barely even in his debut, as it's all about them coming around to him.

What is interesting is that he says of the Eleventh Hour - "that isn't how Doctor Who is supposed to be," which indicates to me maybe that he'll coordinate with his successor more so that there's more of an overlap than with the massive transition from RTD.
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Interesting quote about Eleventh Hour. Did he specify why he thought that wasn't what DW is supposed to be? I personally think it's one of his best episodes - not particularly because of the plot, but just because of the sheer number of things it had to introduce (and the way in which it gloriously succeeded in that). I mean, everyone has their own favorite periods of Doctor Who (for me it's the first year of Hartnell, pretty much all of Throughton, about the first half of Tom Baker and Matt Smith's first two seasons), but I wasn't a fan of RTD at all. Not intended to start a discussion about RTD's writing qualities or anything (I know you're a big fan, and that's perfectly fine), but after giving up on the show numerous times during RTD's run, Eleventh Hour was an enormous surprise for me. Made me excited about the show in a way I hadn't been in years. The fact that the writing and acting was excellent helped, but most of all it finally felt fresh again. The show could use a bit of that, starting with the next Doctor, I think. Series 7 was, to me, mostly a by-the-book version of what DW is these days, almost making it feel like a cheap imitation. In the end, I'd consider myself a fan of Moffat, even with his flaws. But what I admire most about this show is the fact that it can reimagine itself in a very natural way every number of years. I hope they don't lose sight of that.


Oh, and about your earlier quote about River Song - I read that interview, but I don't think the focus should be on the part where he suggest that River could pop up anywhere because of her messy timeline. He said that he rather liked where they ended up with her final scene with 11 was in Name of the Doctor (which to me did feel like it had some sort of finality to it when I watched that episode). He said that, if they'd ever bring back River Song, they'd have to have a very good story to make it worth it. I think he intended to say it wasn't impossible, not that it was likely. If she ever comes back, I expect her to come back either for Big Finish or during the 60th anniversary or something similiar. She'd be one plot point to many to bring over to the next Doctor, gotta give the next (wo)man some space to develop their own style.
 
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APZonerunner said:
What is interesting is that he says of the Eleventh Hour - "that isn't how Doctor Who is supposed to be," which indicates to me maybe that he'll coordinate with his successor more so that there's more of an overlap than with the massive transition from RTD.
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Heh, I think The Eleventh Hour is actually a perfect Doctor Who episode.
 
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