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[Pikawil]

I liked The Eternity Clock

I'll be happy to try out and like The Eternity Clock

Spoiler

when it gets Steam Trading Cards of the eleven Doctors.

 

[Worthintendo]

Me too. As flawed as it was, I thought it could've been a really good launchpad for a much improved sequel.

I've always thought that a 2D platformer in the style of the Metroid games would be a really good fit for Doctor Who. Swap out the weapons for various kinds of tools and utilities (for example, use the Sonic to deflect projectiles back at enemies rather than fire your own) and you've got a game with a strong focus on exploration and potential for some great puzzles.

Actually a good puzzle platformer Metroidvania would be a good idea as well. Needs to have a complete emphasises on anti combat and avoiding enemies would work very well.

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

I'll agree with RTD on one thing - the problem with Davros is, he's rubbish! He's rubbish as a villain in his own right, because he's essentially a dude in a wheelchair, but putting him in charge of the Daleks in turn diminishes them, too, which is a cardinal sin. Genesis is different because he's the crux of the story, but in every other story he's in I feel he's either boring himself or damaging to the Daleks.

I disagree. I think Davros is a fantastic villain, and he can work really well in multiple stories.

I agree that it's difficult to have a story where both Davros and the Daleks are great, but in both Genesis and Revelation of the Daleks, Davros is superb. Those are two of the best Doctor Who stories ever made. I think he's decent in Resurrection, too. It's only really Destiny of the Daleks where I feel that Davros is a big problem. He's crap in that story, and he undermines the Daleks at every turn. He's poorly utilized in Remembrance, but he only has his identity revealed at the end, anyway. Journey's End does decent things with Davros (probably the best parts of that story).

Davros is great because of the relationship he has with the Doctor. Very few stories can pull off things on par with the iconic Doctor/Davros showdowns in Genesis and Revelation.

 

[PaulloDEC]

I disagree. I think Davros is a fantastic villain, and he can work really well in multiple stories.

Big Finish audio drama "Davros" might be one of my favourite Doctor Who stories of all time. He's incredible in that (as is Terry Molloy's performance).

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Big Finish audio drama "Davros" might be one of my favourite Doctor Who stories of all time. He's incredible in that (as is Terry Molloy's performance).

I haven't gotten around to that one yet, but I'm really looking forward to it based on everything I've heard. (Plus it's written by Lance Parkin and Terry Molloy is godlike in the role of Davros)

I would also mention that the I, Davros miniseries is quite good. I was worried that telling his origin story would take away from the mystique, but it actually made Davros an even better character in my mind. Plus, Skaro at the peak of the Kaled/Thal war is such an interesting setting.

 

[PaulloDEC]

I haven't gotten around to that one yet, but I'm really looking forward to it based on everything I've heard. (Plus it's written by Lance Parkin and Terry Molloy is godlike in the role of Davros)

I would also mention that the I, Davros miniseries is quite good. I was worried that telling his origin story would take away from the mystique, but it actually made Davros an even better character in my mind. Plus, Skaro at the peak of the Kaled/Thal war is such an interesting setting.

I've been meaning to check out "I, Davros" for a while, so cheers for the reminder. If it's anywhere near as good as "Davros" I'll be very pleased.

 

[Exterminieren]

wouldn't be surprised if she's referenced in the 50th.

I don't want to see her grave or to be told that Sarah Jane's passed away.

Let her carry on having adventures and saving the world. That'd be the tribute that Liz Sladen would have wanted.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

I don't want to see her grave or to be told that Sarah Jane's passed away.

Let her carry on having adventures and saving the world. That'd be the tribute that Liz Sladen would have wanted.

Either way will be fine, as long as The Doctor gets choked up about it. The Brigadier moment was great.

 

[BocoDragon]

I don't want to see her grave or to be told that Sarah Jane's passed away.

Let her carry on having adventures and saving the world. That'd be the tribute that Liz Sladen would have wanted.

I have been tuned out of Who for a couple of years, and you just altered me to the fact that she passed She will be missed...

 

[APZonerunner]

I don't want to see her grave or to be told that Sarah Jane's passed away.

Let her carry on having adventures and saving the world. That'd be the tribute that Liz Sladen would have wanted.

They said after Liz sadly passed - Moffat and RTD both - that as far as they're concerned, she and the kids are still having untelevized adventures, forever. I doubt they'll ever alter that, or at least not until a long time has passed and all the kids that watched SJA are grown up. They considered acknowledging her death in-canon, but they felt the idea of Sarah Jane being dead within Who would be doubly upsetting for fans of SJA - especially as the audience of that show is like 4-9.

 

[Stuart444]

Speaking of Liz, I loved her acting in "The Stolen Earth" at the Daleks scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH1Iwq8sbu0

Seriously good work by her, I also loved the call back to her previous encounter with Davros in the two parter. I miss her I loved SJA as well

 

[isny]

I have been tuned out of Who for a couple of years, and you just altered me to the fact that she passed She will be missed...

Read her bio. Do eeet!

 

[infiniteloop]

In this month’s issue of Doctor Who Magazine Steven Moffat presents three scene script extracts used for the 12th Doctor auditions.

Moffat makes it clear these scenes will never appear in the show and they are purely made up just for the auditions. He says there’s nothing to glean here about the 12th Doctor or upcoming stories.

The real challenge is to try and read these without thinking of Matt Smith saying them.

1. INT. TARDIS
The new Doctor is checking out the new body. Clara, watching. It’s been a few minutes, they’re both still adjusting.

Extract:

THE DOCTOR: Right then, eyesight. Not bad, bit blue. Ears – not pointy, right way up, more or less level. Face – well I’ve got one. Oh, no -French!
CLARA: French.
THE DOCTOR: I’ve deleted French! Plus all cookery skills, and the breast stroke. And hopping. Never mind hopping, who needs to hop. Ohh, the kidneys are interesting. Never had that before – interesting kidneys.
CLARA: Are you all right?
THE DOCTOR: I don’t know, do I look all right?
CLARA: I don’t know.
THE DOCTOR: How’s the face? Seems all right from the inside. Nice action, responsive. Bit less heft on the chin. How is it?
CLARA: It’s… okay.
THE DOCTOR: Okay?
CLARA: It’s a bit… you know.
THE DOCTOR: No I don’t, I haven’t seen it yet.
CLARA: Maybe it’s just new.
THE DOCTOR: Have you changed height?
CLARA: No.

2. INT. SPACE SHIP BRIDGE
The Doctor is facing down the Cyberleader, who stares balefully down from the screen. The bridge around the Doctor is burning, ruined.

Extract:

THE DOCTOR: Ah, Cyberleader, hello!
CYBERLEADER: Do you have a response, Doctor.
THE DOCTOR: Yes, I do. Definitely got a response. And here it is. Yes, your ears look big in that! Sorry, did I misunderstand the question?
CYBERLEADER: You will return the stolen cargo.
THE DOCTOR: Yeah, well, two points. One, I didn’t steal it. No, actually, I did steal it, I was just hoping if I said that I’d think of a really good excuse before the end of the sentence. Didn’t happen, never mind. Point two – well, point one, second attempt – that isn’t cargo. Those are human beings.
CYBERLEADER: They are primed for conversion.
THE DOCTOR: I’ve unprimed them.
CYBERLEADER: You will return the cargo.
THE DOCTOR: No, I won’t.
CYBERLEADER: Then the cargo will be taken.
THE DOCTOR: Not going to happen, and do you know what’s going to stop you?
CYBERLEADER: We will not be stopped. The Doctor raises a finger.
THE DOCTOR: Tell it to the finger. See this finger? See what I’m doing with this finger right now. The Doctor moves to the screen. Starts drawing a line across.
THE DOCTOR: I’m drawing a line between this ship and you. Between all these people and all your metal men. And this line, it’s a magic line
CYBERLEADER: Magic is not logical
THE DOCTOR: I know – isn’t it great? Because I’ll tell you what. All these people on this ship are now, officially, under the protection of the magic line. Now, I’ll be honest, these guys in here are a bit annoying. They keep having their own opinions, and sometimes they take turns talking instead of me, which is just boring for everyone. But facts are facts, they’re behind the magic line, and that’s the way it is now. And to be clear, so we all understand the deal here, if any of your handle-heads happens to cross the magic line, even by accident, do you know what will happen to you then?
CYBERLEADER: What will happen?
THE DOCTOR: Me

3. The Doctor and a little boy. They’re sitting in the little boy’s bedroom.

Extract:

THE DOCTOR:
Does everyone tell you it’s going to be all right?
LITTLE BOY: Yes.
THE DOCTOR: Do you believe them?
LITTLE BOY: No
THE DOCTOR: Good man. Tell me what happens when the lights go out.
LITTLE BOY: No.
THE DOCTOR: Because you’re scared? (Silence) Because you think I won’t believe you. Because you think I’ll tell you everything’s fine, when you know it isn’t, and leave you alone like all the other grown-ups?
LITTLE BOY:… yes.
THE DOCTOR: Look at me. Am I grown up?
LITTLE BOY: Yes.
THE DOCTOR: Good! You’re the very first person I’ve fooled. Look, what if I promise I won’t tell you it’s okay. What if I just listen, and then try my best to help, and never tell you that I know better. How about that?
LITTLE BOY: …okay.
THE DOCTOR: Okay. So. You turn the lights out -then what?
LITTLE BOY: The room… changes. In the dark.
THE DOCTOR: You mean the room is different when you can’t see it.
LITTLE BOY: Yes.
THE DOCTOR: Every time?
LITTLE BOY: Yes.
THE DOCTOR: Different how?
LITTLE BOY: It’s wet. When 1 touch the walls, they’re all wet.
THE DOCTOR: Like damp. Like water running
down them?
LITTLE BOY: No. Wet like a mouth.

.

 

[V_Arnold]

I failed at the "try not imagine Matt Smith reading these lines" part.

Can Matt Smith regenerate into Matt Smith? Please?

 

[Exterminieren]

In fairness, imagine Eccleston in The Empty Child reading them.

Moffat writes a default Doctor, really.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

LITTLE BOY: It’s wet. When 1 touch the walls, they’re all wet.
THE DOCTOR: Like damp. Like water running
down them?
LITTLE BOY: No. Wet like a mouth.

Spoiler

That magic line speech is basically the Atraxi speech

 

[Harlock]

Too bad that Christopher Eccleston dont wanna go back to play Doctor Who.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

Too bad that Christopher Eccleston dont wanna go back to play Doctor Who.

... yes, it is. Your point being?

 

[The Elite]

Am I the only one trying to imagine Tom Baker or Pertwee reading those lines?

 

[The Technomancer]

.

Honestly I had more fun imaging them read by Tennant

 

[ElRenoRaven]

Too bad that Christopher Eccleston dont wanna go back to play Doctor Who.

Yea It really is. I really liked his Doctor. Tennant is still my favorite without a doubt though. I had my doubts about Smith at first but after the goofiness of the first episode with him and after he got comfortable with the character his has grown on me a lot too.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

Can we gleam much from those audition lines? Obviously the scenarios won't be in the show, but the personality aspects, the delivery. It's still very much Moffatt writing, the feel of it.

 

[APZonerunner]

It's 'default Doctor' really so no, you can't glean anything. The finer details will come from the actor themselves, as it did with Eccleston/Tennant/Smith.

 

[Quick]

Default Doctor indeed. Eccleston, Tennant, and Smith could read those lines without stepping outside their character's personalities.

 

[Trike]

makes sense that he is using generic doctor lines. The character is influenced by the actor.

 

[Batigol]

Honestly I had more fun imaging them read by Tennant

I read it in Tennant's voice

 

[Captain_Spanky]

Goddamn I'm only just finishing my Masters in Drama and Performance. I'd kill for a chance to read that script. Still, I live in Cardiff. Plenty of time.

 

[SpacePirate Ridley]

Hey guys, I was looking the other day for the youtube video of the classic doctors killing monsters with a rap song on the background, that some of you have put in this thread various times, to show it to a friend and didn't find it, does someone know the name of the video or a link to it?

Goddamn I'm only just finishing my Masters in Drama and Performance. I'd kill for a chance to read that script. Still, I live in Cardiff. Plenty of time.

And introducing Captain Spanky as The Doctor.

 

[Box of Bunnies]

Hey guys, I was looking the other day for the youtube video of the classic doctors killing monsters with a rap song on the background, that some of you have put in this thread various times, to show it to a friend and didn't find it, does someone know the name of the video or a link to it?

This one?

 

[twobear]

I failed at the "try not imagine Matt Smith reading these lines" part.

He's really done a smash and grab with the role, eh? I hope that Moffat actually writes 12 differently to 11 though, the similarity of the lines to the kind of thing 11 says makes it all too easy to imagine Matt saying them.

 

[acheron_xl]

He's really done a smash and grab with the role, eh? I hope that Moffat actually writes 12 differently to 11 though, the similarity of the lines to the kind of thing 11 says makes it all too easy to imagine Matt saying them.

Yeah, the post-regeneration TARDIS scene really feels like Smith to me.

 

[APZonerunner]

Yeah, the post-regeneration TARDIS scene really feels like Smith to me.

Isn't this always the case, though? A lot of the Eleventh Hour is packed with Tennant-isms which Smith's Doctor gradually grows out of. Same's true of Tennant; a lot of New Earth in particular really feels like an Eccleston script.

 

[Boem]

It's quite easy trying to imagine 9, 10 or 11 with those scenes, but it's a bit harder trying to imagine one of the older Doctors saying them. Especially the scene with the kid, although I guess the classic Doctors didn't interact with children nearly as much. Adric and Nyssa, I guess, but the Doctor didn't really like his companions in those days.

Wasn't there a similar set of scenes back when they were casting the new companion after Amy left - or maybe right after the announced that Coleman would take over. Tried looking for it, couldn't find it. It'd be interesting to see if any of those scenes hinted at storylines we've gotten since then. I vaguely remember something about ghosts...

Also, I'm late to this, but Telltale doing Doctor Who would be glorious. They've always been interested in the franchise (I remember them talking about it around the time they did Wallace & Gromit, or maybe even Strong Bad). I think they approached the BBC at one point, but the BBC wasn't willing (or allowed) to let a non-UK company do the games. This is all based on hearsay and rumours from the old Lucasarts fan-community by the way, no clue if it's true. I'd love to see it happen one day. My preference would be to make both the Doctor and his companion playable, both with their own kind of gameplay moments/puzzles, like they did in Wallace & Gromit (or back in Day of the Tentacle). Telltale did a charity-thing with a live cam/chat a couple of years back, and I remember pitching a special year-long Doctor Who game with every episode taking place in a different era (with a different Doctor) to them. It'll never happen, but it'd be the best thing ever.

 

[mclem]

Yeah, you can sense that he's honestly excited about the show. It's weird his show still the only US-based talkshow to receive the DW-stars as guests (as far as I know, at least).

I hope his cameo in a DW-episode is still happening. Last thing I heard is that everyone wanted to do it, but they couldn't figure it out schedule-wise. He'd make a great sympathetic villain.

Or have an episode where the doctor's psyche - consisting of his confidence and his paranoia, say - splits into real people, and the doctor has to interact with each while contending with some other threat. I reckon he'd be great at playing the Confidence role!

Spoiler

It'd make that random Tardis appearing in Red Dwarf's loading bay have meaning!)

 

[APZonerunner]

I've never really been into Star Trek, but while out at E3 this year BBC America was running it non-stop, and I frequently caught episodes on my way in or out from where I was staying. I quite liked the two or three I saw, so I've started watching it from the start on Netflix - and man, one series in, I'm sad RTD's Who-Trek cross over got spiked. What a shame. Would've been fascinating.

 

[mclem]

Sorry to change the subject. but I'm still a little bit sad that the Doctor never visited Sarah Jane Smith's grave or saw back Luke and K-9 after her death...

Is Sarah Jane dead in-universe? I know the Brig absolutely is.

Edit: Ah, just seen further comments. I think that's how it should be.

 

[The Elite]

I've never really been into Star Trek, but while out at E3 this year BBC America was running it non-stop, and I frequently caught episodes on my way in or out from where I was staying. I quite liked the two or three I saw, so I've started watching it from the start on Netflix - and man, one series in, I'm sad RTD's Who-Trek cross over got spiked. What a shame. Would've been fascinating.

Are you starting with the Original Series?

 

[APZonerunner]

Nah, I'm just watching TNG as that was what was on BBCA and what snagged my interest. I've seen some of the original series movies before, though, caught them on TV a bit as a kid. I'll probably go back to the original after TNG.

 

[SpacePirate Ridley]

This one?

You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.

 

[Raydeen]

I was hoping for a new Doctor more along the lines of Clint Eastwood's Man with No Name - less talk, more action. Moffat seems to like writing dialogue for the sake of writing dialogue.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

I was hoping for a new Doctor more along the lines of Clint Eastwood's Man with No Name - less talk, more action. Moffat seems to like writing dialogue for the sake of writing dialogue.

Yeaaaaah it's a lot of "tell not show", which I don't like. For example, saying Clara is "the impossible girl, the perfect companion" rather than just us seeing that through what happens on screen.

 

[catapult37]

Yeaaaaah it's a lot of "tell not show", which I don't like. For example, saying Clara is "the impossible girl, the perfect companion" rather than just us seeing that through what happens on screen.

Nailed it. I was never onboard with that stuff, no matter how much they repeated it. They never managed to sell the whole "impossible" thing IMO.

 

[celebi23]

"Looks Like Paul McGann Has Filmed A New Doctor Who Something… But What?"
-Bleeding Cool

 

[The Elite]

I think this thread needs to go.

 

[EleventhDoctor]

"Looks Like Paul McGann Has Filmed A New Doctor Who Something… But What?"
-Bleeding Cool

oh my

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

Called it! Well.. a lot of people did. Either way, very pleased. He was robbed of a decent run.

And yeah, Series 7 is done. We need a Series interim thread like BB.

 

[Quick]

Called it! Well.. a lot of people did. Either way, very pleased. He was robbed of a decent run.

And yeah, Series 7 is done. We need a Series interim thread like BB.

There's already the 50th Anniversary thread.

 

[gabbo]

We could have had an Hurt/Eccleston regen couldn't we?

....Fuck.

 

[DrForester]

So did the comicon trailer ever leak or did 6000 people actually fall for Modfats bluff?

 

[CorrisD]

I think this thread needs to go.

We have the 50th anniversary thread, but that does have spoilers in, so I don't see anything wrong with this thread till the 50th episode airs and we move onto Series 8/Christmas special.

That and we will be getting a new Doctor announcement at some point, someone will no doubt make a new thread for that news too, along with filling up this one, lol.