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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life
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bengraven
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Isn't he married?
When you know when a woman is going to die, but it's far in the past and you already spent 200 years roaming the universe with her...when do you decide it's over and she's officially dead?
I mean, technically if he keeps going in the past to be with her, he could be married forever.
When you know when a woman is going to die, but it's far in the past and you already spent 200 years roaming the universe with her...when do you decide it's over and she's officially dead?
I mean, technically if he keeps going in the past to be with her, he could be married forever.
Hot Coldman
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The Doctor's marriage is basically bunk, he only references it because it was recent and it just worked as a comeback to the hooded dude in his dream.
grimshawish
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Doctor Who (BBC America)
-9 PM: 1.555 million viewers, 0.60 A18-49
They haven't put out a press release yet, but I believe that's their highest ever rating, certainly is for Doctor Who and last year TIA was their highest ever.
-9 PM: 1.555 million viewers, 0.60 A18-49
They haven't put out a press release yet, but I believe that's their highest ever rating, certainly is for Doctor Who and last year TIA was their highest ever.
ScreenSplitter
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Well even when he meets a River that says "I'm going off to this library, wanna come?", he can just go back to an earlier River and hang out with her. Neither ever know when the other one is, so she could be permanent. Groan inducingly permanent.
JoshuaJSlone
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bengraven
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There comes a point when she's lying down to sleep in her cell and he shows up and she's like "Oh for Christ's sake, you've already been here 56 times today. And all last week my day was full up of you taking me here or there and the week before...God, I'm stupid in love with you but I'm exhausted".
ScreenSplitter
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"Wow Doctor, don't you love all this time we're spending together?!?"
"Yes, great dear, absolutely fantastic..."
"I'm so glad you stopped taking random skanks on the Tardis..."
"Yeah me too... listen, how about you take my Sonic Screwdriver? I have a feeling you're going to need it."
"Why?"
"No reason."
bengraven
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He sends her to the Library right after the divorce.
"Five hundred years and I just can't do this anymore! I'm still a young man, I have needs, I want younger trim! Listen, there's an expedition to the Library coming up, I want you to get a lead position on the team..."
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KuwabaraTheMan
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Well, I'm surprised that the Series 7 premier was below my expectations, because they weren't high to begin with. I wasn't surprised about Moffat once again reducing a woman's role to her uterus, though. That's two episodes in a row.
All of the Amy/Rory stuff in this episode basically spat in the face of the previous two seasons, and the Daleks forgetting the Doctor was just such a stupid plot 'twist'. I really don't get how the season premier was able to be so boring. Plenty of Doctor Who stories have been bad in the past, but this was just dull on every level.
All of the Amy/Rory stuff in this episode basically spat in the face of the previous two seasons, and the Daleks forgetting the Doctor was just such a stupid plot 'twist'. I really don't get how the season premier was able to be so boring. Plenty of Doctor Who stories have been bad in the past, but this was just dull on every level.
Hot Coldman
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oh ffs stop watching already
I knew something was missing from this topic. Always a good read.
mightynine
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And with KTM weighing in, the season has well and truly begun.
You've gone beyond parody at this stage.
Exterminieren
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The problem here is with your reading of the episode, not Moffat's writing.
Hot Coldman
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I get the feeling I am the only person in this thread that likes River and is excited to see her again
I like River! "Excited" would be the wrong word regarding her showing up again, given her dominance of the last two series, but I'm certainly not opposed to it.
WyndhamPrice
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I get the feeling I am the only person in this thread that likes River and is excited to see her again
It's cool, duder. I like her too.
However the ticking clock aspect of her existence grows kind of tiresome sometimes. It's the only part of Who where the "wibbly-wobbly" nature of time actually does make my head do weird backflips putting the pieces together, I don't know why.
mightynine
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I have no problem with River, though her arc last season was a little clunky. Would've liked to see a few more episodes of her with the "Let's Kill Hitler" personality.
Should be interesting to see how she's handled going forward without her mystique.
Should be interesting to see how she's handled going forward without her mystique.
Exterminieren
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River's fine when she just pops up and is funny and charming without bending the plot around her; see Silence in the Library and The Time of Angels.
She's less tolerable when the storyline focuses entirely round her; see Series 6.
She's less tolerable when the storyline focuses entirely round her; see Series 6.
I would like to see River's storyline wrapped up with the Pond's. I'm of the mind that the Doctor did spend around 200 years between "Closing Time" and "WoRS" running around, much of it with River. This then explains the fast, but not forced, wedding, as they are both at points in their time together to both accept it. If the big deal with the "first question" is a second half thing, I'm also fine with her there for that, as it may be used to explain what she whispered into 10's ear.
I do NOT want to see the Ponds zapped back to past-NY to "raise" River, as her immediate actions to kill the Doctor could only be indicative of their failure as parents.
I do NOT want to see the Ponds zapped back to past-NY to "raise" River, as her immediate actions to kill the Doctor could only be indicative of their failure as parents.
Hot Coldman
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The Pandorica Opens has the best Cyberman moment ever.
King of the Potato People
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I like River when she wasn't taking over the show.I get the feeling I am the only person in this thread that likes River and is excited to see her again
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I don't really have many complaints whatsoever about River or her story aside from it coming up a bit rushed in s2. I'd love more but Moffat may have been hounded into pulling back on her just when their relationship would've been able to get normal.I get the feeling I am the only person in this thread that likes River and is excited to see her again
Exterminieren
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Moffat does really, really good work with the show's classic monsters; see Madame Vastra and Commander Strax in A Good Man Goes To War, on top of The Pandorica Opens. It's a shame that his narrative style doesn't really fit with using them too often.
EleventhDoctor
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Yeah I liked River in the Angels 2 parter-and actually in the Silence 2 parter. I think they had to address her past, for better or worse, last year-and it seems that she's wisely only being used sparingly this season.
The Technomancer
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I dunno, was anyone really interested in River's childhood? The part of her past that I wanted to see was the period where she and the Doctor fell so in love that she behaves the way she does in Silence in the Library
Also, I wonder if there were any Silents in the Library.
I thought you hated the previous two seasons.
You don't get to shit all over two seasons worth of show and then crap on a new episode because you don't think it respects the stuff you hate.
Basically, your trolling isn't even internally consistent any more. Time to hang it up, bro.
Yeah, I'd like to see them together just by themselves for an episode. Even just like a montage of them doing stuff that we haven't seen in episodes before.
Would be cool if the Doctor dropped her off, and we see her go to the crew that went to the library.
brucewaynegretzky
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So are we going to address the problem that Amy and Rory are just going to breakup again when the Doctor leaves?
Hot Coldman
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They are? They fell apart due to a serious issue, and they found out it ultimately wasn't going to tear them apart.
They'll just adopt or something, innit. They're together for life.
King of the Potato People
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They might not if they get to raise little Melody.
Doctor Who Breaks BBC America records with 1.6 million watching the premiere. Up 23% compared to last year.
http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/09/05/doctor-who-ratings/
http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/09/05/doctor-who-ratings/
Wasn't Closing Time a Cybermen episode? I loved everything except for the end of "love" conquering all. I did like how the Doctor tried to explain how it wasn't exactly love but a certain amalgamation of other elements.
Gareth Roberts wrote that episode.
Ah, I misread his post.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Anyone else only watch Who for the companions? Who doesn't make much sense and The tension doesn't work for me. JLC is hotter than the sun to me.
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PalaceBrother
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I hate how quickly they glossed over any serious factors that could contribute to their decision to divorce.
The more significant family drama element that Moffat has brought in with his run has had problematic aspects that I assume stem from not wanting to touch too close to things that would freak children out on a more personal level than monsters under the bed. The birth of river song and this divorce plot are basically glossed up in MTV editing so people don't have to think about them very much.
They won't break up so quickly if they've both been turned into granite for the rest of eternity.
Incendiary
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I think a younger River as a companion for a season would have been more neat than where Moffatt ultimately went with it. I think he wanted to cram all of River's story into one season, and linking her immediately to the next companion the Doctor traveled with screamed him trying to make sure River's story was complete before he stopped being the showrunner.
I guess I don't blame him for doing that but I would have liked it if her mystery had spanned several seasons and more than just two generations of The Doctor.
He made the Cyberman head in The Pandorica Opens pretty amazing, with the tendrils.
and why would an exploding tardis even do that anyway? Didn't all time lords have Tardises (Tardii?) before they were all killed? So surely tons of Tardises were exploding on a daily basis during the time war. The Doctor's tardis is only special because its rare now.
radioheadrule83
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I can believe it causing some kind of problem if it implodes/explodes within the vortex, and then of course - there was that episode about the planet / entity / thing that ate tardis'... maybe that episode was an attempt to answer that very question... I think Dr Who is just lazily or forgetfully written a lot of the time. Kids don't demand the attention to detail that older viewers do!
Opening the doors of the TARDIS during flight used to be incredibly dangerous too. Now it's basically routine.
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