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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life

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so this is good? usually the episode after the season premiere is kind of bad.
 
Just came to say I'm excited for this episode since I'm waiting till the US premiere. Cant stay and read because i don't want to be spoiled but huzzah Who is back!
 

mclem

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I thought it would bother me but it didn't. I guess he did leave Solomon with a few moments to escape. Very well executed. I'm sure there was some back and forth when it came to actually having The Doctor kill Solomon.

It preserves his anonymity. I wonder if that's significant.


Did anyone pick up on the fonts in the intro? I thought they looked a little odd last week with lighting that at the time I thought looked cheesily vegas-y, but I get they were going for a dalek look - and this time around, definitely a scaly look.


Loved the sequence with Amy acting as a surrogate 'Doctor' with her two 'companions'.
 

Mariolee

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Well that episode was totally awesome. I'm not usually a fan of the more silly episodes but this one was great, very funny and very entertaining. Not very Doctor like though leaving Solomon to get exploded!

Well, if the clip from A Town Called Mercy from the series 7 trailer is anything to go by,
I believe the Doctor going on some sort of rant about all the people who have died or have been heavily affected because the Doctor showed mercy to the Daleks, the Master, etc. So the Doctor being less merciful will probably be brought up again next episode.

so this is good? usually the episode after the season premiere is kind of bad.

I loved it, dinosaur CG was spotty near the beginning but throughout the episode you just kinda let it go and have fun with the ride. The spaceship CG for some reason looked really impressive to me.
 
If I was writing Doctor Who I would make Solomon the "silence will fall" guy getting his revenge for The Doctor trying to kill him in this ep.
 
Loved this week. Great villain, isn't he Walder Frey from Game Of Thrones? Next week spoiler
Thy cyborg looks a bit like Kryten in "Gunmen Of The Apocalypse" from Red Dwarf. Great Vibe for next week!
 
I think Moffat is asking a lot from the writers this season. These stories are a lot more fun but hit some pretty dark moments along the way. I like it. For 45 minutes, there's a lot of emotion, storytelling and action.
 
Awesome episode! Loved it! And yeah, Solomon was a GREAT villian.

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The only thing I had an issue with is I would have toned the robot's humor down a notch.
 
Yeah, for an action-rompy episode, Solomon was a genuinely unpleasant character - he seemed quite pleased that he'd killed all the Silurians. I wanted a close-up of him being exploderated! I would have liked a bit more of Robomitchell & Webb as well.

Presumably, the lack of information on the Doctor is leading into the whole 'Doctor Who?' thing.
 
Doctor did a total Batman in this episode, I fucking loved it. Another indication that Smith's Doctor is darker/less forgiving than Tannant's Doctor.
 
People are impressed with the CG, Honestly it was pretty terrible. I mean like passable but not anything impressive.

The beast from Impossible Planet/Satan Pit was better.

The best was AWFUL; seriously, what the hell? Let down the entire 2 parter! Its just low res crap made big.

The budget cuts REALLY show. Its only older CG stuff thats already had alot of dedicated work or is relatively simple in comparison like the Space ships or daleks for instance that look good.

BBC really need to appreciate how big Who is and devote some more money to it.

Fuck its a TV show man. God forbid we know its CG!

It was fine for what it was showing. Bloody hell. They have 14 episodes to fill, find another show that can do new CG and sets each week!
 

char0n

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Definitely a "fun" ep which is what New Who tends to go for, I enjoyed it.

However,
that is probably the most direct and darkest killing I recall the Doctor ever doing. He's killed to save lives on occasion, not-saved people or groups he could have when they are particularly evil or unredeemable, and a few times intentionally tricked villains into destroying themselves, but this is the first time I remember him directly killing someone he both could have easily saved and wasn't a threat anymore AND gloated a bit while doing it.
It would be a shame if it didn't turn out to be part of something bigger going on with the Doctor.
 
That was a great episode. I really liked the scene at the end with Brian hanging over the Earth. Really beautiful. Great special guests, good humor, good ending.

The CGI was pretty bad though.
 
Brian is apparently an adventure game protagonist.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking that while I watched this.

Really liked this episode. Definitely one of the best light-hearted non/plot-relevant episodes in the new series. Wish Ridell and Nefertiti had more to do, though, but I loved the Doctor's "gang." Also Nefertiti is smokin' hot.

Solomon was a great villain as well, I'm racking my brain trying to remember the last human villain, I guess there was Eyepatch Lady but she was so underwhelming. I liked that the Doctor's disappearance from series 6 is really playing into this season since in previous seasons it would have been the Doctor that was the precious cargo, but instead it was Nefertiti since he's gone into hiding.

This series is shaping up to be a much better series than 6.
 

Jintor

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I really enjoyed that the Doctor got robot-knapped just because he was a doctor, not because he was THE doctor. (I also bet the Doctor could perform open hearts surgery if he really needed to)
 
Really dislike the (crap looking) colour effect they're adding to the opening for each episode. Love the slightly different style of the show title, though.
 
I think the only thing I disliked about this episode was Amy complaining about how she spent months waiting for the Doctor, how she thought he was weaning them off her, and then at the end "nah, I'd rather you just took us home and left us there for a few months." Wonderful character continuity there.
 

BatDan

Bane? Get them on board, I'll call it in.
Really fun episode. Full of humor, action, and all that good stuff. Plus, great to see the Dark Doctor shine through.
That ending with Brian looking over Earth... wow.

A Western next week, the first since William Hartnell.
 

Mariolee

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I think the only thing I disliked about this episode was Amy complaining about how she spent months waiting for the Doctor, how she thought he was weaning them off her, and then at the end "nah, I'd rather you just took us home and left us there for a few months." Wonderful character continuity there.

I figured it was because she figured after their talk that he would eventually always come back, and that at the moment she was tired. Not necessarily any character conflict there.

mwuhahaha

Also I thought the "Precious Cargo" that Solomon had scanned was The TARDIS-being as it's a fucking time machine.

Lol I thought the same thing.
 

char0n

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Also I thought the "Precious Cargo" that Solomon had scanned was The TARDIS-being as it's a fucking time machine.

Probably "erased" and unknown just like the Doctor appears to be everywhere now

Am I the only one who thinks the Doctor gave Soloman an "out" with the homing rock? I didn't interpret it as a cold-blooded murder.

I sort have thought the same thing but really what could he do, jettison it? That and something that out of character could lead to something cool down the line, especially if it gets mixed in with the Doctor being reset as an unknown...
tied in to the Valeyard perhaps? Old-who fan wishful thinking.
 

beril

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Loved this week. Great villain, isn't he Walder Frey from Game Of Thrones? Next week spoiler
Thy cyborg looks a bit like Kryten in "Gunmen Of The Apocalypse" from Red Dwarf. Great Vibe for next week!

Yes he is; as well as mr Filch in Harry Potter and countless other creepy old men in various movies and tv shows
 

Mariolee

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Probably "erased" and unknown just like the Doctor appears to be everywhere now

I didn't get what the implication of this part in the show was. If the Doctor was originally known in the computer, was it supposed to be implied that he was erased somehow? Because how did he erase himself if he's only been erased from Dalek memory. He's simply dead, just like Nefertiti and the machine correctly analyzed her. Maybe it only recognized humans or something like that, in which case this whole unknown thing would've happened even if he didn't go on his whole "Doctor WHO?" way, and the scene loses all power and meaning. He's basically just as unknown on this ship as he was before.
 

isny

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I didn't get what the implication of this part in the show was. If the Doctor was originally known in the computer, was it supposed to be implied that he was erased somehow? Because how did he erase himself if he's only been erased from Dalek memory. He's simply dead, just like Nefertiti and the machine correctly analyzed her. Maybe it only recognized humans or something like that, in which case this whole unknown thing would've happened even if he didn't go on his whole "Doctor WHO?" way, and the scene loses all power and meaning. He's basically just as unknown on this ship as he was before.

It will probably tie in with the Doctor Who? theme. They'll probably show a montage of stuff from each episode again towards the finale for those who need to have it spelled out to get it.

Maybe the TARDIS has some protection preventing it from being scanned or recognized by other technology?

Isn't that what the Chameleon Circuit does? Besides camouflage it emits some sort of psychic wave thingy that makes people/scanners not notice it?
 

Quick

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Tricy killed in cold blood was genuinely sad. WHY, MR. FILCH, WHY?!

So, it's been months since the Doctor saw the Ponds, how long would it be until A Town Called Mercy.
 

Jintor

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Gosh, I really want to know what they're doing with the whole apparently erasing the Doctor from Time & Space thing. I bet it's linked in in some fashion to Demon's Run and people yammering on about how "Doctor" is a word for warrior, and the Pandorica and how everybody teamed up to bring him down.

I'm wondering if they've already done something and his memory is fading throughout time, or it's someone else deliberately trying to delete his memory and he's accidentally helping them along, or...
 

Mariolee

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Gosh, I really want to know what they're doing with the whole apparently erasing the Doctor from Time & Space thing. I bet it's linked in in some fashion to Demon's Run and people yammering on about how "Doctor" is a word for warrior, and the Pandorica and how everybody teamed up to bring him down.

I'm wondering if they've already done something and his memory is fading throughout time, or it's someone else deliberately trying to delete his memory and he's accidentally helping them along, or...

I'm still surprised that two episodes in we haven't heard one word of the Fields or Trenzalore or the Fall of the Eleventh.
 
Both he and Amy. As someone said earlier, "AmyRory" is my favorite companion.

Amy's "I'm a queen" and "I can't deal with flirting companions" were great. I'm really looking forward to next weeks episode, as a kid Red Dwarf's western 4 horseman episode was always one of my favourites so I'm hoping modern British sci-fi can live up to it.
 

hateradio

The Most Dangerous Yes Man
Amory


His dad seems very excited.

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Amy's "I'm a queen" and "I can't deal with flirting companions" were great. I'm really looking forward to next weeks episode, as a kid Red Dwarf's western 4 horseman episode was always one of my favourites so I'm hoping modern British sci-fi can live up to it.

Funny you say that - the aesthetic of the Cyborg has since the very first time I saw it made me think of Kryten in Gunmen of the Apocalypse.

With Red Dwarf's new series set to start on Dave in the next few months, it really makes me hope that at some point they'll mash the two together for Comic Relief or something. I'd like to see The Doctor aboard RD, even though they're older now.
 
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