The Elite
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Maybe the episodes were supposed to air closer to Christmas and these little comments were meant to be "in the spirit."
Or Christmas as we know it will never be the same.
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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life
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Maybe the episodes were supposed to air closer to Christmas and these little comments were meant to be "in the spirit."
Or Christmas as we know it will never be the same.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Huh.
I enjoyed that for the most part, although I did have some little issues. But, it was a pretty good episode overall, and I thought Solomon was a great villain. The clash of the Doctor's ideals and morality against the capitalist greed of Solomon, who was willing to crush everything in his path was great to see. Chibnall brought the goods there, and there were a lot of great moments with them.
I was less keen on the Doctor committing murder, and some glorification of hunting (although there was some good talking down of it, the ending went too far in the other direction). All in all, though, it was good fun, and much meatier than any episode in quite some time.
I enjoyed that for the most part, although I did have some little issues. But, it was a pretty good episode overall, and I thought Solomon was a great villain. The clash of the Doctor's ideals and morality against the capitalist greed of Solomon, who was willing to crush everything in his path was great to see. Chibnall brought the goods there, and there were a lot of great moments with them.
I was less keen on the Doctor committing murder, and some glorification of hunting (although there was some good talking down of it, the ending went too far in the other direction). All in all, though, it was good fun, and much meatier than any episode in quite some time.
DrForester
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In the most surprising Christmas special ever, The Doctor enjoys a nice quiet day with friends. Exchanging gifts and having a nice dinner.
Daleks and Cybermen put their feud aside and EXCHANGE! EXCHANGE! EXCHANGE! gifts.
Honestly, I would love a quiet 'day in the life' episode
Longer than Pond Life and with no dramatic punch at the end
The introduction to Matt Smith's Doctor is possibly the best of all of them. Although I'll concede I haven't seen *that* many (Davison, McGann, Eccleston, Tennant, Smith)
Old Doctor intro serials tended to be a lot less dramatic than the new ones have been. I do like the second Doctor's final prismatic face-wibble before he goes, though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjIZPl3ABXo
His third option looks a bit like David Tennant, actually.
Exterminieren
Banned
I'd agree. The Eleventh Hour absolutely nails it. Probably the best bit of writing we've had for the new series, considering it had to establish a new Doctor, new companions, new arc plot, new TARDIS, new setting, and make a compelling and interesting episode in its own right.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Its the best of the new ones up until the last five minutes of the episode.
Hot Coldman
Banned
I think it's safe to say that all 3 of the modern Doctors got great introductions. I know Rose isn't that good, especially in retrospect, but I remember it being very effective at introducing the Doctor at the time. 9th materialising back and telling Rose the TARDIS travels through time as well was a great scene.
The Elite
BOSS
I watched Rose over and over and over again when it was the only episode I had for a while but it doesn't hold up that well for me.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Rose certainly isn't perfect, but it's joyous in the way that it revels in the fact that it's Doctor Who and back, and the introduction to the Doctor is great.
I absolutely love the bit where the Doctor tells Rose about how he can feel the Earth rotating. That speech is legendary.
Power of the Daleks is still the best introduction for any Doctor, though.
I absolutely love the bit where the Doctor tells Rose about how he can feel the Earth rotating. That speech is legendary.
Power of the Daleks is still the best introduction for any Doctor, though.
Exterminieren
Banned
That's not how you say Spearhead From Space.
grimshawish
Banned
Power of the Daleks is very good. Shame its lost bar audio and telesnaps 
Looking back, An Unearhly Child is a really good episode, well Part 1 is at least. The stuff with cavemen was boring. But it did a good job introducing some of the foundations for the Doctor.
Supposedly, Troughton had an amazing introduction, but thanks to fires and junking we'll never find that out will we?
Pertwee's intro was interesting. It introduced the Autons and was shot on film.
Tom Baker's intro was silly, but it lead into some really great episodes like The Ark in Space and Genesis of the Daleks.
Davison's intro was okay, kind of shaky since they had to work him in after seven seasons of Tom Baker
The less said about Colin Baker, McCoy and McGann's intros the better.
The intros of the modern Doctors were pretty well done too. Rose was risky as it had to re-introduce the Doctor after a lengthy absence. The Christmas Invasion had to introduce a new actor to those unfamiliar with regeneration. The Eleventh Hour had to introduce a new Doctor in the era of the internet and people screaming "I HATE CHANGE".
Supposedly, Troughton had an amazing introduction, but thanks to fires and junking we'll never find that out will we?
Pertwee's intro was interesting. It introduced the Autons and was shot on film.
Tom Baker's intro was silly, but it lead into some really great episodes like The Ark in Space and Genesis of the Daleks.
Davison's intro was okay, kind of shaky since they had to work him in after seven seasons of Tom Baker
The less said about Colin Baker, McCoy and McGann's intros the better.
The intros of the modern Doctors were pretty well done too. Rose was risky as it had to re-introduce the Doctor after a lengthy absence. The Christmas Invasion had to introduce a new actor to those unfamiliar with regeneration. The Eleventh Hour had to introduce a new Doctor in the era of the internet and people screaming "I HATE CHANGE".
phisheep
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I've vague memories of watching it on first showing.
The regeneration was prefigured at the end of the previous episode, but still it was very odd (we're all used to it now of course) having a different actor, and an entirely different character in the role. Troughton seemed almost bemused to start with, but from the off he was a lot more, well playful, than Hartnell had been. Seemed to take him a few episodes to settle into the character, but then it took us a few episodes to have it sink in that this strange man was actually the Doctor.
I don't remember anything at all about the first episode's storyline though.
The Elite
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First part of Unearthly Child is great. I actually like the whole story but it does drag.
I love McGann's entrance too even if the story is hit or miss. It's a lot of fun.
One of my favourite scenes in the entirety of New Who.
The speech is great. The editing around it is kind of terrible. Had that "Jump from place A to place B in mid-conversation" quality that cropped up in RTD's era a few times (the other time that comes to mind is when the Doctor was chasing the Master through a junkyard and stopped in the middle to have tea with Wilf before returning to the chase).
I'll chime in on this as well: One of his best lines. And I feel like it had a huge impact on the series, partly because it was Eccleston and his Doctor that delivered that speech.
Second favourite: "Run!" - from their first encounter in the mall.
mightynine
Member
Was that the Hare from Don't Scare The Hare in that menu? He lives on!
EDIT: Not going to wait until after the show to say DAT MUSIC.
EDIT: Not going to wait until after the show to say DAT MUSIC.
BackwardsSuggestions
Member
iPlayer is shitting the bed again. Will watch it later.
Damn you Virgin Media.
Damn you Virgin Media.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
I liked the bit about the doctor's mercy, but overall it was was pretty poor - nowhere near as good as last week, the entire episode seemed to be a plot device to shine a light on the doctor for future purposes, and they kind of forgot to make the episode fun while doing it.
Hot Coldman
Banned
I hope the Gunslinger returns, I like that character a lot. Shame about Ben Browder's role being short, though.
Z
ZombieFred
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Really enjoyed this weeks episode but then again I'm a sucker for everything Western. Great atmosphere and presentation with this episode though. Music was top.
Cjdamon042
Member
I enjoyed it, but perhaps not as much as last week's.
Ben Browder was a cool choice, albeit a short role.
Ben Browder was a cool choice, albeit a short role.
StealthGoblin
Banned
Didn't think much of that. It'll be as forgettable as that pirate episode.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
were you getting into the western theme and consulting a pocket watch
Hot Coldman
Banned
The story was kinda all over the place. It was great to look at, I think they nailed the tone, but perhaps leaping head-first into the sci-fi elements was a mistake.
Angel Abaddon
Member
Agreed, other half was bored, I loved it since I love westerns, especially when they have a sci-fi twist. Also like what I think was a nod to BTTF3 with the "I don't need a new suit" bit.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
Really middling episode and I was a little confused by Amy's "You don't kill Doctor!" when he killed a man and his seemingly sentient robots last week.
bobs...onGaf
Member
Flickering lights and idea of the Dr being less forgiving all of a sudden showed up again, kind of interesting where that goes, but it seems like it went nowhere with Amy snapping him out of it this week.
Seems like a running theme, but I hope it leads somewhere and doesnt just fizzle into Amy telling him off so he goes back to being merciful again.
Seems like a running theme, but I hope it leads somewhere and doesnt just fizzle into Amy telling him off so he goes back to being merciful again.
Felt like they had a pretty decent premise but they didn't know how to stretch it into a full episode. It certainly wasn't bad - I just felt I could see the end of the story coming two minutes after it started, and the way they got to that ending wasn't particularly exciting.
King of the Potato People
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That was decent, it would have been better if it showed more anarchy after the Gunslinger threatened to kill everyone.
mightynine
Member
I liked the shades of grey being tossed around, but it just ok.
Except for that music. LOVED it.
Except for that music. LOVED it.
Hot Coldman
Banned
I agree it wasn't all that, but:
1. I think the point here is that the Doctor is still mighty guilty about what he did. He feels he ought to be punished, and he's projecting that onto Jeks. It's not just the Master's and the Dalek's victims that deserve justice, it's his own victims too. But the Doctor, as we all know, is ultimately fairly selfish so he's having real trouble reconciling his emotions at that point. That was the best part to me, the Doctor dragging Jeks over the line and the fallout of that (although the out-of-place comedy with Amy, I could have done without that).
2. Pretty sure that's why they had the scene with the Gunslinger not just massacring the church, despite it saying he'd kill them all.
King of the Potato People
Member
Next week's looks like the cheap episode.
Jex
Member
In this case I feel that the problem here is with last weeks handling of the Doctor killing someone, not this weeks.
Exterminieren
Banned
Pretty decent. Nothing mindblowing, but Smith's performance, the Gunslinger, the location filming and DAT MUSIC were pretty damn great.
Next week's looks gooood.
Next week's looks gooood.
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