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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life

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How in God's good name did they manage to drag 9 minutes of highlights out of The Idiot's Lantern?

EDIT: Oh my God, that's Derek Branning. I hadn't realised. :/
 
OH SHIT

Too long to wait. :(

SPOILER:

Apparently it's an anti-grav bike that the Doctor drives up the side of the Shard.

EDIT: Man, I'd forgotten how bad Tennant was in The Idiot's Lantern.

"I'M NOT LISTENING-A!"
"THERE'S NO POWER ON THIS EARTH THAT CAN STOP ME!"

I loved Tennant's era to bits, but Christ above is this performance poor.
 
DWM confirmed the writers for the second half of the series.

ep1 - Steven Moffat
ep2 - Neil Cross
ep3 - Mark Gatiss
ep4 - Neil Cross
ep5 - Stephen Thompson
ep6 - Mark Gatiss
ep7 - Neil Gaiman
ep8 - Steven Moffat
 
Neil Gaiman gets the penultimate episode... interesting. I know they're not doing multi-part episodes this series but the finale's still gotta be something big, so I wonder if it'll just be utterly self-contained like Angels was.

No Chibnall in sight. Excellent. :3

Yeah, but there's Stephen Thompson.
 

wetflame

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That Neil Gaiman episode is going to be very eagerly anticipated. He hit The Doctor's Wife out of the park, but he had a lot of time to refine it. Hopefully he's had the same time to craft this one too. I have total faith in his abilities, though. Be interesting to see whether it being the penultimate episode will mean it has a lot of overarching plot elements brought in that he's not necessarily creating himself, or whether it's more of a stand-alone story of his own as last time.
 

CorrisD

badchoiceboobies
Neil Gaiman gets the penultimate episode... interesting. I know they're not doing multi-part episodes this series but the finale's still gotta be something big, so I wonder if it'll just be utterly self-contained like Angels was.

It might not be a proper 2-parter, but it could be an episode that leads into whatever they might be doing for the special.
 

Mariolee

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Neil Gaiman gets the penultimate episode... interesting. I know they're not doing multi-part episodes this series but the finale's still gotta be something big, so I wonder if it'll just be utterly self-contained like Angels was.



Yeah, but there's Stephen Cross.

Are you saying Stephen Thompson, or Neil Cross, or BOTH? I don't really know their record so eh.
 
Are you saying Stephen Thompson, or Neil Cross, or BOTH? I don't really know their record so eh.

Stephen Thompson wrote The Curse of the Black Spot, and The Blind Banker and The Reichenbach Fall; two mediocre things balanced by one really fucking awesome thing.

Neil Cross is the creator of Luther, one of the best crime dramas of the past few years.
 

CorrisD

badchoiceboobies
Who else thinks this may be Smith's last season?

Well he is sticking around for the 50th anniversary, and he has apparently discussed the next series with Moffat already too which means he probably doesn't get killed to stick around for that one.
So I would guess no, this isn't his last series, I'm perfectly fine with him sticking around for a few more years, by the end of this series he will be the longest Doctor since its return.

"Fall of Eleventh"

Yupp. Everything he's said in interviews is to the contrary, but it's a red herring I think.



Rule No. 1: Moffatt lies. What would totally take the suspense out of Smith's exit? By telling us he's going to exit.

We always know when people are leaving Doctor Who beforehand, it is just how it goes, people get announced before each series finishes.
 
I think he dies early-ish next season. A mid-season doctor switch would be interesting and a great way to celebrate the 50th. How cool would it be if they brought Tennant back AND had Smith interacting with the next guy in a timey-wimey episode that basically leads up to the regeneration while 11 knows the whole time that he's going to die? Then the 12th Doctor's first adventure is actually 11's last. 12 is learning who he is while 11 is coping with death and 10 is guiding them both as the experienced mentor.

I'm in.
 
I expect the Fall of the Eleventh to mean about as much as River killing the best man she ever knew, or one of the Doctor's companions absolutely, 100% definitely dying on the Crucible.

I'd certainly be unsurprised if it tied into the 50th Anniversary in some way instead.
 
Not to mention there's already been a reference to Eleven falling.

River in A Good Man Goes To War said:
He will rise higher than ever before, and fall so much further.

And, of course, neither of those things happened.
 

Mariolee

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Stephen Thompson wrote The Curse of the Black Spot, and The Blind Banker and The Reichenbach Fall; two mediocre things balanced by one really fucking awesome thing.

Neil Cross is the creator of Luther, one of the best crime dramas of the past few years.

So with Stephen Thompson doing the bottle episode allegedly, should we expect great things?
 
So with Stephen Thompson doing the bottle episode allegedly, should we expect great things?

Could go either way. He's turned in quite a lot of unexciting stuff, and we don't know how big an influence Moffat and Gatiss had on The Reichenbach Fall. I'm going to go for cautiously optimistic.
 
Wasn't the rise overtaking Demon's Run without any bloodshed, and the fall losing baby Melody? That's the way I saw it anyway.

That's correct. The problem was making it all sound more grandiose than what actually happened. But I didn't mind, because what did happen was all very exciting. (Barring the obvious twist at the end regarding Melody, that's a damn fine episode.)
 

Diablos54

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The fall I can get, but seizing Demon's Run? Compared to everything else the Doctor has done? Bah, it was mid-tier at best.

Good episode, mind.
I dunno, getting into a base made by an organization/religion out to kill him, and then getting pretty much everyone out without any bloodshed is a pretty good accomplishment, although I see your point.

It was a great episode though, even with a few small problems it has.
 
I expect the Fall of the Eleventh to mean about as much as River killing the best man she ever knew, or one of the Doctor's companions absolutely, 100% definitely dying on the Crucible.

I'd certainly be unsurprised if it tied into the 50th Anniversary in some way instead.

That's already happened. River had to keep up the illusion of killing The Doctor because that's what she was in prison for. That's what she said. What does the Crucible have to do with it?

And making us wait another year whilst having some twat say "Doctor WHOOOO?" every episode would be a bit of a dick move.
 
That's already happened. River had to keep up the illusion of killing The Doctor because that's what she was in prison for. That's what she said. What does the Crucible have to do with it?

The point is that these kinds of prophecies rarely amount to anything at all. River didn't actually kill the best man she knew, no one actually died in Journey's End, and Trenzalore won't actually see the Fall of the Eleventh in the way we all think it will.
 
The point is that these kinds of prophecies rarely amount to anything at all. River didn't actually kill the best man she knew, no one actually died in Journey's End, and Trenzalore won't actually see the Fall of the Eleventh in the way we all think it will.

Probably not... I guess he could just get really downhearted?
 
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