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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life
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King of the Potato People
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Well a character can't remember for a long time unless they have an Eye Drive, a normal person would forget they've shot a silent soon after.
I'm actually jealous of this.
Bad. Ass. It sucks to have a cast, but at least you can make the most of a bad situation.
Team Filler
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That's awesome.
PhoncipleBone
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Did you get a blue cast on purpose? Just to do that?
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smallios74
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Anyone else seen this?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00zn6ff
its an animated version of a scene to used in the Last epsiode, good stuff.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00zn6ff
its an animated version of a scene to used in the Last epsiode, good stuff.
LORDT it is just as well they didn't put that in the episode I would have been crying like a baby
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Man, I'm at work. Will watch when I get home.
Exterminieren
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I'm actually almost glad that didn't make it to screen. Mark Williams's performance would have broken me.
OK Chibnall, you got me.
Though, I don't know how this would fit in the last episode's flow at all, it would've been amazing as a prologue or short film.
Edit: Oop, never mind.
http://www.hypable.com/2012/10/12/doctor-who-video-brian-williams-in-p-s/
Beaniedude
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See I never understood the Silent.
Say for example you found one in your room. The post hypnotic suggestion would kick in and you would try to kill. Imagine if you will, that the Silent doesn't immediately turn you to ash with their powers or perhaps, have already killed you from afar with one of the many human weapons they helped create.
You manage to kill one of the Silent, heaven knows how, so now you have a dead Silent on your bed.
A dead alien just lying their on your bed. Overcome with shock you leave the room and promptly forget about the alien ever being there.
But alas the time ticks on and it is time to hit the sack for a solid day of activities tomorrow. You walk into your bedroom AND THERE IS AN ALIEN DEAD ON YOUR BED! AN ALIEN DEAD ON YOUR BED. HOW THE HELL DID THAT HAPPEN!?
You run screaming from your room, only to forget about what just happened but look at the time! Better hit the sack to get ready for all those activities you are doing tomorrow!
BUT THERE IS AN ALIEN ON YOUR BED! HOW DID IT GET THERE!? You run screaming from your room and repeat indefinitely whilst everyone else in the same house sits there puzzled no doubt surrounded by aliens they have forgotten about that could kill them at any time but choose not to for some reason.
I guess I never really liked the idea of The Doctor starting a war with an alien race that had infiltrated everywhere on the planet and could kill you by raising their hands.
Just because you start a war doesn't mean you'll win it.
Say for example you found one in your room. The post hypnotic suggestion would kick in and you would try to kill. Imagine if you will, that the Silent doesn't immediately turn you to ash with their powers or perhaps, have already killed you from afar with one of the many human weapons they helped create.
You manage to kill one of the Silent, heaven knows how, so now you have a dead Silent on your bed.
A dead alien just lying their on your bed. Overcome with shock you leave the room and promptly forget about the alien ever being there.
But alas the time ticks on and it is time to hit the sack for a solid day of activities tomorrow. You walk into your bedroom AND THERE IS AN ALIEN DEAD ON YOUR BED! AN ALIEN DEAD ON YOUR BED. HOW THE HELL DID THAT HAPPEN!?
You run screaming from your room, only to forget about what just happened but look at the time! Better hit the sack to get ready for all those activities you are doing tomorrow!
BUT THERE IS AN ALIEN ON YOUR BED! HOW DID IT GET THERE!? You run screaming from your room and repeat indefinitely whilst everyone else in the same house sits there puzzled no doubt surrounded by aliens they have forgotten about that could kill them at any time but choose not to for some reason.
I guess I never really liked the idea of The Doctor starting a war with an alien race that had infiltrated everywhere on the planet and could kill you by raising their hands.
Just because you start a war doesn't mean you'll win it.
Dr Zhivago
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That's exactly what the episode needed, a bit of closure. As it stands it felt flat & unfinished.
Interesting that despite the flak Chibnall tends to get round here, his writing has been better than Moffat's recently.
Interesting that despite the flak Chibnall tends to get round here, his writing has been better than Moffat's recently.
ScreenSplitter
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Even as a DVD extra. So, so good. I agree though that it would have totally taken away from Doctor/Amy goodbye. Still, so damn good.
Team Filler
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Really nice scene. I think they could've worked it in if they were to split it into halves, with it beginning at the end of Ep. 4 and stopping right as Brian answered the doorbell, then resuming after Amy and Rory become truly stuck in old New York, but before the scene with River talking to the Doctor while starting up the TARDIS.
ScreenSplitter
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I dread the Social Services visit to the Williams household.
"Anthony, how are you settling in here?"
"My parents say they're from 2012, and that I have a sister in her 40's! And that she's married to some man who inexplicably can't come visit for some reason"
"Anthony, how are you settling in here?"
"My parents say they're from 2012, and that I have a sister in her 40's! And that she's married to some man who inexplicably can't come visit for some reason"
This. I think the ending would have been a little less sad.
I was thinking the other day--did we ever get full disclosure on what happens in The Pandorica Opens and The Big Bang?
I assume, for instance, that we are supposed to presume that the Silent were controlling the races that built the Pandorica to trap the Doctor.
But we never figured out why they were building knockoff TARDISes, or how they could control the TARDIS, or why it exploded.
Are those things actually going to be revealed? I'm not sure they need to be.
I assume, for instance, that we are supposed to presume that the Silent were controlling the races that built the Pandorica to trap the Doctor.
But we never figured out why they were building knockoff TARDISes, or how they could control the TARDIS, or why it exploded.
Are those things actually going to be revealed? I'm not sure they need to be.
ScreenSplitter
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Nope, not full disclosure. I think they had a grander reveal planned, but as time went on we can just assume it was a crazy batshit scheme by The Silence to kill The Doctor. We still don't REALLY know who controls The Silence (aliens), since it clearly isn't Kovarian (sans eyepatch the Silents turned on her). It also didn't help that since the events of The Wedding of River Song never happened, Kovarian never died and is presumably still roaming around looking for some Time Lord blood to spill. And I don't think the Silence are done with The Doctor yet, obviously they tie in to "The Question" pretty tightly.
Lot of theories going round that the Silence are an order established by The Master, the answer to "Doctor Who?" being his name, which only a few (River, Master) would know. Two Time Lords who never go by their real name, why not?
They really need to go back and film this. Reaaaalllllly. Godamn Mof and his stupid decisions.
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Seven Force
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It's nice to have some closure there.
Clever girl.
oh gosh i cant stop crying ;~;
It was clearly fanfic given this version of what happened.
Almost surprised they didn't go a timey-wimey route and have it so Rory's Dad was actually adopted.... BY RORY, DUN DUN DUN.
This thing hit me in my feels though, for sure.
mightynine
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I hope they consider filming that for the season set down the line.
I was doing fine until Rory said how good of a dad Brian was, and then I lost it.
I was doing fine until Rory said how good of a dad Brian was, and then I lost it.
Chopped onions and dust everywhere.
The voice-over recording was a bit tough to hear, but I just needed to turn up the volume. Brian hugging his grandson, who's older than him, was a touching end.
I wish they made this into a short instead, sort of an end to the Pond Life shorts.
Future Foundation
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Goddamn it Chibnall, just barely held it together near the end. The music was really nice, but a bit too loud. It's still really wonderful though.
I find it really strange that they didn't film this. It would have been easy to work in and is easily more worthy of filming than any of the pre-season shorts.
I'm gonna hold out some hope that it's because they didn't want to pidgeonhole themselves by casting Anthony before they knew if they'd ever want to have him appear somehow in the show. I want Amy and Rory's final scenes to stay final, but their kid could meet the Doctor and I'd be ok with that.
Also, so I guess they got sent back to some time in the 50s or the 60s then?
I'm gonna hold out some hope that it's because they didn't want to pidgeonhole themselves by casting Anthony before they knew if they'd ever want to have him appear somehow in the show. I want Amy and Rory's final scenes to stay final, but their kid could meet the Doctor and I'd be ok with that.
Also, so I guess they got sent back to some time in the 50s or the 60s then?
I still dunno how why they couldn't leave NY and then get on the TARDIS.
Sigh, at least we got the storyboard with the letter voiceover, but why couldn't they film this... Thanks for posting it here, guys.
edit: I was having some trouble loading it on the BBC site, so here's the youtube version for anyone else who may need it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWU6XL9xI4k
Just go with it. There is nothing they could possibly have done that would have had a reasonably lower likelyhood of being unable to be reversed. Rose got sealed onto the other side of a crack in the universe and she came back. Rory got forgotten by the entire universe and still came back.
So just accept that they're not coming back and that no matter what it would have been wibbley wobbley that would have done it.
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People get too caught up with the plot holes or the logic behind the show that it prevents them from enjoying it overall. I'm not saying the writers are excused from these things, but there's a point where you have to realize that, sometimes, it's just so trivial that it's not worth the effort to break things down.
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So you're saying that it's just a show and we should really just relax?
I'm still in the Bargaining phase.
Rory's Centurion wore a partly red [jump]suit.
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Dr Zhivago
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It wasn't just some minor plot point though, it completely undermined the emotion of the farewell scene. It was like the two of them getting hysterically upset because Amy was moving to Stockport.
The Giant
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This killed me.
Hot Coldman
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My reasoning now is they opened an orphanage and couldn't leave the kids
coz why not
coz why not
God damn, why didn't they make that the ending, Amy and Rory's final scene wasn't that sad IMO, but to see the effect on Rory's dad at the end would have been a great if sad ending.
They really missed what could have been a very touching scene, companions who were stolen from the Doctor saying goodbye to those they loved after they were gone.
Kind of glad that scene wasn't a part of the episode. Having both the Doctor and the scene would be redundant. More importantly, I don't like how it frames the Williams lives. Knowing they had a happy life was enough. Felt a blank slate is better. Appropriate, I guess, considering the episode.
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