Donald Trump officially the GOP nominee by delegates

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I can't tell how likely it is that this guy actually wins.
This is one of those situations were I really want to know what the world would look like if he becomes president but I don't want to experience it myself.

Please invent something that makes this possible ASAP, thanks.

They actually did.

It's a game you can go play right now, it's called Virtues Last Reward. Pretty much the backstory is exactly how I imagine a trump presidency going.
 

zethren

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I think it does represent the US in reality. As shocked as many people here are about the situation. No one I speak to about this are in the least bit surprised.

If you can't deal with that then stop telling me to fuck off and get off your arse and do something about it.

Trump does NOT represent the US in reality. Perhaps I can understand why you might perceive him to, due to not actually living in this country and only seeing headlines or speaking to a small sample of people.

He's absolutely awful, and this is much more serious than some folks on the internet are taking it.
 
Trump does NOT represent the US in reality. Perhaps I can understand why you might perceive him to, due to not actually living in this country and only seeing headlines or speaking to a small sample of people.

He's absolutely awful, and this is much more serious than some folks on the internet are taking it.

Trump is going to get at minimum 45% of the popular vote.
 

cyberheater

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Trump does NOT represent the US in reality. Perhaps I can understand why you might perceive him to, due to not actually living in this country and only seeing headlines or speaking to a small sample of people.

He's absolutely awful, and this is much more serious than some folks on the internet are taking it.

If he does not represent the US then why is he getting so much traction?
 

zethren

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Trump is going to get at minimum 45% of the popular vote.

I actually doubt it.

I don't think he'll do as well in the general against Hillary. But who the hell knows. Fuck everything if he wins.

If he does not represent the US then why is he getting so much traction?

Because he does represent a very loud, very vocal, group of people that have been upset at the last 8 years of Obama's presidency. He doesn't even have the full support of the GOP right now either.

I don't think he will actually do as well in the general against a Democrat, however.
 
I actually doubt it.

I don't think he'll do as well in the general against Hillary. But who the hell knows. Fuck everything if he wins.

In 2008 you had Barack Obama, an incredibly popular and charismatic individual running for the democrats, you had an incumbent Republican president with record disapproval ratings and the stench of his administration infecting the entire GOP by association, you had total economic collapse, the war in Iraq, Katrina, and Sarah Palin (who was just as offensive as Trump) on the Republican ticket.

John McCain still got 46% of the vote.
 
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Holy CNN! lol.
 

zethren

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In 2008 you had Barack Obama, an incredibly popular and charismatic individual running for the democrats, you had an incumbent Republican president with record disapproval ratings and the stench of his administration infecting the entire GOP by association, you had total economic collapse, the war in Iraq, Katrina, and Sarah Palin (who was just as offensive as Trump) on the Republican ticket.

John McCain still got 46% of the vote.

A lot of things change in the political climate in 8 years time, and it's not quite the same right now as it was then.

Sarah Palin was just as offensive as Trump, but was not the presidential candidate. She had McCain bringing it back down when she'd get a little too kooky. Trump doesn't have that. It's just him, and he's square in the limelight 100% of the time as the presidential candidate.

Also, I do think John McCain represented the US more closely than Trump does now.

This election season has been unpredictable, and of course he could get 46% of the vote. He could even win. But I don't think that will actually happen, and I think things will start to become much clearer in the general when he's running against a Democrat.
 

Mr Cola

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I can see him winning, I think he understands the game very well, has a good base and alot to work with in regards to going at Hillary. I also think it will be alot easier for him to unify Republicans than it will be for Hillary to unify democrats.
 
I don't think I am, but of course that's a possibility. I am banking on more people disliking Trump once it's down to the two of them, though.

I think type of echo-camber sentiment is what allowed Trump to sneak up on folks in the first place.

There are ALOT of people that will vote Trump. Typical rules don't seem to apply to him. I've never seen a candidate say the shit he's saying and the blowback just rolls off him like it ain't nothing.

Any other candidate would be fried.

I mean look at Howard Dean. Did everything right and one "HYYYYYAAAAAAA!" tanked his entire campaign. But Trump still going strong. Crazy.
 

zethren

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I think type of echo-camber sentiment is what allowed Trump to sneak up on folks in the first place.

There are ALOT of people that will vote Trump. Typical rules don't seem to apply to him. I've never seen a candidate say the shit he's saying and the blowback just rolls off him like it ain't nothing.

Any other candidate would be fried.

I mean look at Howard Dean. Did everything right and one "HYYYYYAAAAAAA!" tanked his entire campaign. But Trump still going strong. Crazy.

I mean I do certainly agree with you in that. I think that people underestimating him was the issue from day one, and the jokes about how hilarious he was on the internet certainly didn't help. He should never have been allowed to get away with what he's been saying without consequence, and it's the media's fault by and large on that one. They ate it up, for the ratings.

That said, I do still think it will be a slightly different story once he's up against a Democrat in the general. I know he's dangerous, so I'm not trying to underestimate him. I'm very curious to see it come down to that, and of course I hope he loses.
 

HylianTom

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I think type of echo-camber sentiment is what allowed Trump to sneak up on folks in the first place.

There are ALOT of people that will vote Trump. Typical rules don't seem to apply to him. I've never seen a candidate say the shit he's saying and the blowback just rolls off him like it ain't nothing.

Any other candidate would be fried.

I mean look at Howard Dean. Did everything right and one "HYYYYYAAAAAAA!" tanked his entire campaign. But Trump still going strong. Crazy.
It still amazes me that we've gone from a media environment that will crucify a candidate for sighing at his opponent's moronic arguments during a Presidential debate, to an environment that will implicitly cheer the fuckery we've seen from Trump over the past year.
 

Garlador

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I think type of echo-camber sentiment is what allowed Trump to sneak up on folks in the first place.

There are ALOT of people that will vote Trump. Typical rules don't seem to apply to him. I've never seen a candidate say the shit he's saying and the blowback just rolls off him like it ain't nothing.

Any other candidate would be fried.

I mean look at Howard Dean. Did everything right and one "HYYYYYAAAAAAA!" tanked his entire campaign. But Trump still going strong. Crazy.

Yeah (even the "hyyyyyyaaaa" sounded better from a different angle...).

Trump may actually happen, and that speaks more of how divided our nation is right now (and how awful the GOP has become).

Reminds me of that SNL skit from a few months back with Hilary; "for those of you who said "I hate Hilary, I'd never vote for her", to you I say welcome."
 

commedieu

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I don't think I am, but of course that's a possibility. I am banking on more people disliking Trump once it's down to the two of them, though.

I think you are. A lot of red state demographics, agree with the man. That is why he is has the nomination. America is a racist cesspool. This hasn't changed since the founding. The GOP is literally trying to roll back equal rights for people. Others agree with it.

Pretending its a handful of teapartiers is disingenuous. Trump's followers have very dangerous thinking. The entire world can see this, but much like most of Americas problems -- they are ignored here. Trump speaks for the current state of America, that we have allowed this to get to this point where he is a consideration.

then theres the weird phenomenon of bernie or bust, or people doing it for the LUL's. This is our voting system happening, and its a bit of a let down. But this is where we are. We are all responsible for enabling a climate of division in the USA. Complacency got us here.

Its a lesson about the demographics of our nation. Trump has alienated minorities, and women, yet, hes still filling up stadiums of supporters. It wasn't a joke for me, esp after the hateful rhetoric started. But you had people here, who consider themselves liberal, luling. This is our nation man. We need to admit we have a problem, then act to resolve it instead of yelling NUH-UH! USA USA.! Its denial man.
 

mo60

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Trump is going to get at minimum 45% of the popular vote.
The max he's getting is around their especially if Hilary takes one of the states the republicans have been holding for like two decades like Arizona and Georgia.He's also guaranteed to lose the popular vote very heavily in many Democratic states in the fall like California.In the end Trump will probably struggle to beat McCain's vote share in the fall.
 

Toxi

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Who do you think have a better chance of beating Trump , Hillary or Bernie ?
Hillary.

Mainly because A. candidates associated with the far Left have been some of the most unsuccessful in American history and B. Bernie has lots of baggage that hasn't been brought up that ruins his chances with certain groups, like his past comments about Cuba.

That said, with Donald fucking Trump as an opponent, it's any Democrat's election to lose.
 

zethren

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I think you are. A lot of red state demographics, agree with the man. That is why he is has the nomination. America is a racist cesspool. This hasn't changed since the founding. The GOP is literally trying to roll back equal rights for people. Others agree with it.

Pretending its a handful of teapartiers is disingenuous. Trump's followers have very dangerous thinking. The entire world can see this, but much like most of Americas problems -- they are ignored here. Trump speaks for the current state of America, that we have allowed this to get to this point where he is a consideration.

then theres the weird phenomenon of bernie or bust, or people doing it for the LUL's. This is our voting system happening, and its a bit of a let down. But this is where we are. We are all responsible for enabling a climate of division in the USA. Complacency got us here.

Its a lesson about the demographics of our nation. Trump has alienated minorities, and women, yet, hes still filling up stadiums of supporters. It wasn't a joke for me, esp after the hateful rhetoric started. But you had people here, who consider themselves liberal, luling. This is our nation man. We need to admit we have a problem, then act to resolve it instead of yelling NUH-UH! USA USA.! Its denial man.

It's a very sad thing indeed. And maybe I'm wrong about it, and maybe I just don't want to be wrong about it. But you're not wrong that this election season has been incredibly eye opening, and troubling to say the least.

The atmosphere of memes surrounding Trump in the early stages of this election, even here on GAF, was disgusting from day one. It's not funny to sit and listen to Trump rattle on. It's not funny to watch him soar through the ratings roof while shouting racist and sexist idiocy.

I did what I could personally throughout the primary, and I'll continue to support his opposition into the general. I'm optimistic that he won't win, but maybe introspectively that is because I sincerely hope he does not.

At the very least I can say he does not even an ounce represent me.
 

PopeReal

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It still amazes me that we've gone from a media environment that will crucify a candidate for sighing at his opponent's moronic arguments during a Presidential debate, to an environment that will implicitly cheer the fuckery we've seen from Trump over the past year.

He says the stuff that many Americans want to feel free to say without repercussions. He makes them feel safe.
 

Ponn

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I mean I do certainly agree with you in that. I think that people underestimating him was the issue from day one, and the jokes about how hilarious he was on the internet certainly didn't help. He should never have been allowed to get away with what he's been saying without consequence, and it's the media's fault by and large on that one. They ate it up, for the ratings.

That said, I do still think it will be a slightly different story once he's up against a Democrat in the general. I know he's dangerous, so I'm not trying to underestimate him. I'm very curious to see it come down to that, and of course I hope he loses.

I don't think you're alone in your thinking, i've seen many many gaffers doing the same thing you're doing.

'Well yea he was underestimated and thats how he got a foothold but i'm not going to do that because I think he has no chance"

It baffles me the cognitive dissonance going on with this. I really think its more so people putting their heads in the sand trying to believe America is better than this while complaining about how bad it is in the very next thread.
 

G-Bus

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It's like a natural disaster you can't help but stand in awe.

Pretty good view from Canada. May need to stock up on popcornm
 
So I haven't been following the US elections too closely, are we still 100% certain Trump has no chance of winning cause I remember that being the consensus just a few months ago?
Clinton's supporters are still 100% sure. Everyone else is decidedly less sure. The Dems are still odds-on favourites by a decently large margin, but I suspect anyone calling this election for team blue right now is going to have an uncomfortable six months.
 

botty

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Kind of gross seeing people say "America had a good run" yet including all those years where people were legally enslaved and oppressed. Unless of course some people consider that stuff good....
 
CNN is pushing Donald's clinching the nomination.

FOX is pushing Hillary's Email scandal.

-Trump would make so much money as president for these news sites. All aboard! Toot toot! Next stop: HELL, anchored by Wolf Blitzer.

Wolf: Let's get some close-ups of the burning buildings. Viewers love fire and smoke! RATINGS RATINGS!!!
 

commedieu

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Grats, Republicans/Conservatives.

You all played yourselves.

I feel like we all did.

The GOP is dangerous, and we all let it slide. It boiled into this perfect party of hate, save for the people who don't have a dog in the hate fight, and just want to keep their money, this has been a long time coming. Especially with how our media works, how much it is in bed with politics. We have a hate/fear machine running full steam. We laugh from the blue states, but that didn't reduce the % of supporters of hate and division.

Things could have been done to get other citizens to realize that other citizens are worth a damn. I don't know what, but hell, there are two sides to this status-quo in America right now. A bit of blame to go around. We don't address the major issues in this nation, this is what happens. They manifest into this. We don't resolve them, we don't even try.

People believe obama is muslim.

Being a muslim isn't a bad thing, yet.. Thats the background music of our nation. Education/outreach/something to squash our issues. We haven't really. People that fought over slavery, just went silent. But those minds didn't change. I don't know how that could be resolved, but the nation being divided by hard party lines has not helped get us all working together as a nation. Its almost as if red/blue states are different countries.
 
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