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Donkey Kong Country Returns |OT| Retro Studios Has Done It Again!
- Thread starter Tricky I Shadow
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upandaway said:
The only thing I could agree out of that is the game should not be more difficult because it is co-op. I know that is how it is with most co-op games, but a truly great designed game can keep the co-op game from being more difficult (unless it was done purposefully, like in FPS'). However, in this case, we know it is because to have both characters doing the precision jumps and to keep up with one another. It's just how it is in fast paced platformers, unfortunately. But if the designers can design the game to be equally challenging in single and co-op play, then they deserve the higher review score.
However, to knock off points for being too hard and 'the co-op was done before', have to be two of the dumbest reasons to give a lower score.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Difficulty scares me in a way.
I mean, I want the game to be challenging, but I also want to play this with my girlfriend.
I hope there's a way for her not to feel like dead weight if the game gets too hard. She was honestly upset she died against the Joker three times in Arkham.
I mean, I want the game to be challenging, but I also want to play this with my girlfriend.
I hope there's a way for her not to feel like dead weight if the game gets too hard. She was honestly upset she died against the Joker three times in Arkham.
ShockingAlberto said:
Unfortunately, that's what this game sounds like. I could be wrong, as I have not played it, but from the reviews and from other impressions, it sounds like the game is more difficult to play in co-op.
I am also with you, where I think the game should be challenging, I just hope it's not mind-numbingly difficult (i.e. Battletoads).
Bending_Unit_22
Member
Hadn't thought of that. Is there the bubble like NSMBW? I recall having to send my girlfriend to the bubble several times in that game. Or is there a drop in-drop out style co-op? Sorry if the answers are well known, I've been on 90% media blackout for this game.ShockingAlberto said:
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
I got flashbacks of Radiant Dawn's review of being "too difficult" and "no mii support". I should better stop reading reviews.
ShockingAlberto
Member
There's the problem, I don't think it will be too difficult for me. I have been playing games all my life and even when my reflexes are lacking, I don't mind dying a dozen times until I get a level down pat.Sadist said:Hey guys if it's too difficult for ya you can use the Super Guide
The people I'm playing with will probably not enjoy dying and watching me play until I rescue them only to die again.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
I've been playing DKC2 for this. It can't be harder than Animal Antics, right?Sadist said:Hey guys if it's too difficult for ya you can use the Super Guide
Bending_Unit_22
Member
So in 2-player with my girlfriend we'll Super Guide through most of the game? Yay...Sadist said:Hey guys if it's too difficult for ya you can use the Super Guide
I was just being a bit of an ass, but I totally understand.
I'd expect there is some form of learningcurve to gradually raise the bar of diffilculty while advancing. New Super Mario Bros. Wii had those, same goes for Galazy 2. Seems to me that Retro won't make beginning players go to hell and back for the first world/opening levels.
I'd expect there is some form of learningcurve to gradually raise the bar of diffilculty while advancing. New Super Mario Bros. Wii had those, same goes for Galazy 2. Seems to me that Retro won't make beginning players go to hell and back for the first world/opening levels.
Sadist said:
The Game Informer review said the game transitions perfectly from world to world in regards to difficulty. Meaning, there are no huge difficulty spikes. Which sounds great to me. I have never been the best in regards to platform games (especially now at my age) and not sure if I will be able to defeat the game, but I certainly will have fun trying!
Hmm. I guess Nintendo Power editors aren't very good in platform games.
Now I'm curious about your age Hobbun. Personally I think platformers are fantastic games and they continue to be my favourite genre, but I suck at them. I always complete them though. I remember a few years back when getting the Yoshi's Island port for GBA getting my ass whooped during a few levels :lol I'm 24, not that old
Now I'm curious about your age Hobbun. Personally I think platformers are fantastic games and they continue to be my favourite genre, but I suck at them. I always complete them though. I remember a few years back when getting the Yoshi's Island port for GBA getting my ass whooped during a few levels :lol I'm 24, not that old
Sadist said:Hmm. I guess Nintendo Power editors aren't very good in platform games.
Now I'm curious about your age Hobbun. Personally I think platformers are fantastic games and they continue to be my favourite genre, but I suck at them. I always complete them though. I remember a few years back when getting the Yoshi's Island port for GBA getting my ass whooped during a few levels :lol I'm 24, not that old
Compared to most game forums, I am really old. I know to GAF, there is a lot more diverse age group. I am 38.
I have never really been that good with platform games, either. I did beat the original Mega Man games back on the NES, and I was pretty damn proud of it. However, I remember spending hours getting that jump just right, shooting the enemy at the right moment and getting the pattern down on the boss.
However, when I fired up Mega Man 1 again last year, I was like "Holy shit". I just couldn't keep from dying. And tried Mega Man 9..well...:lol
But yes, I have always had a blast playing platform games, even though I have never been that great at them. I think now, part of it is having less reflexes than when I was younger, but also because I don't have as much time and therefore patience. Maybe if I actually just sat down and played for hours on end like I would in my teens, I could do it.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Hmm, the Nintendo Power review is pretty surprising, but Im not worried. I can see it being a one off.
Im fully expecting a 9.5 from IGN and GameSpot. It just doesnt look like an 8.5 game to me at all....
Im fully expecting a 9.5 from IGN and GameSpot. It just doesnt look like an 8.5 game to me at all....
Anasui Kishibe
Banned
harder than NSMBW? Jesus
the baton is still erected, expecially after that last trailer
the baton is still erected, expecially after that last trailer
Chet Rippo
Member
Is 8.5 really that bad of a score? Though their reasoning behind it is rather dumb.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
That's just great, my CCPro is fucking up with me. The wiimore doesn't recognize it; I was going to finish DKC2. =(
EDIT: I just noticed that Online forum is now Community. I swear I didn't see it until now.
EDIT: I just noticed that Online forum is now Community. I swear I didn't see it until now.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Chet Rippo said:
Of course not but all the videos of the game and impressions lead you to believe it's one of those uncommon "can't miss at all" games and while it didn't miss with them, I expected basically all sources to score it higher.
This won't be right but I say a 9.5 from IGN and a 9 from Gamespot.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Chet Rippo said:
Well I think the reasoning behind the score is the real problem here. They hardly even seem like negatives and just sound silly. The reviewer constantly compares it to New Super Mario Bros Wii.
Saying that it's too hard and that co-op is not a big deal because New Super Mario Bros Wii did it first? Really? And saying that Donkey Kong is too slow and bulky compared to Mario? Umm....ok?
CommieCaptorS
Member
There seems to be a variety of UK (and Ireland) pre order bonuses going around;
Toys 'R' Us are offering a DK figurine, limited to first 10,000 pre orders (in store/online)
Littlewoods (don't hurt me EuroCAGGAF) are offering the banana skin for wiimote, limited to first 1,000 pre orders (in store/online)
HMV are offering an £8 gift card (in store only)
Gamestop Ireland are offering the banana skin wiimotes too, limited to first 2,500 pre orders (online only)
Toys 'R' Us are offering a DK figurine, limited to first 10,000 pre orders (in store/online)
Littlewoods (don't hurt me EuroCAGGAF) are offering the banana skin for wiimote, limited to first 1,000 pre orders (in store/online)
HMV are offering an £8 gift card (in store only)
Gamestop Ireland are offering the banana skin wiimotes too, limited to first 2,500 pre orders (online only)
Cow Mengde
Banned
People are worried about Nintendo Power's score? If they gave it a 10/10, you'd be worried cause they're biased. NP's actually pretty harsh with reviews. I remember back in the day seeing them give OOT a lower score than most other magazines out there.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Twig said:
What the? I dont see anyone whining over the review. Whos whining? I thought the discussion about it was very reasonable and I don't think anyone really cares in here that it got an 8.5. Calm down. :lol
I for one am incredibly excited to hear that I will finally get another challenging platformer. Part of what I love about the originals is that you truly get a sense of accomplishment when you beat them, unlike most games today where you get the "experience" of seeing the ending merely by investing the time required, as opposed to having to use genuine skill.
BRING THE PAIN BITCH
BRING THE PAIN BITCH