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Donkey Kong Country Returns |OT| Retro Studios Has Done It Again!
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Talladega Knight
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or starfox or startropics2 Minutes Turkish said:
Sgt.Pepper
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I don't even have a camera. I'd like to share my time trials...
Beat the final boss
and unlocked the Golden Temple... didn't even look at it though, taking a break.
To get the K levels you have to get all the KONG letters in the world. Pretty sure you just have to beat a stage to unlock the time trial, don't have to get any of the collectibles.GWX said:
I still think Retro shouldn't touch the Zelda franchise tbh, but they did wonders with Donkey Kong and Metroid regardless. I'm probably the minority here, but I just don't think they should abandoned the current developers of Zelda since they're already doing a fine job with the series and are willing to try out plenty of new ideas with Skyward Sword. Spirit Tracks also revived faith that the Zelda development teams are still able to make competent puzzles that don't rely on series norm.
On DKCR, I've been playing it rather sluggishly over the last few days taking my sweet time with it and I must say this really is the best Donkey Kong game ever. There isn't many, but this takes the cake. It takes all of the best elements from DKC, Jungle Beat, the Mario series, and various original ideas and puts it into a tight package. Easily the best game of the Wii blowout this month.
On DKCR, I've been playing it rather sluggishly over the last few days taking my sweet time with it and I must say this really is the best Donkey Kong game ever. There isn't many, but this takes the cake. It takes all of the best elements from DKC, Jungle Beat, the Mario series, and various original ideas and puts it into a tight package. Easily the best game of the Wii blowout this month.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Personally, I'd like to see Retro do "The Legend of Zelda 5" as a top-down view, 2.5d visual action-RPG. I'm getting that numbering from the pre-3D series: Link to the Past is "Zelda 3" and by many accounts, Link's Awakening is "Zelda 4".
But the original mainline Zelda series ends there, with various other portable spinoffs. Everything is 3D Zelda / Ocarina of Time influenced.
So yes; give Retro LttP / Awakening as a blueprint, and let them work from there. Emphasize that it's not a "remake", but a genuine sequel just as DKCR is. Gotta be bigger and better while encapsulating the core values of the games.
But the original mainline Zelda series ends there, with various other portable spinoffs. Everything is 3D Zelda / Ocarina of Time influenced.
So yes; give Retro LttP / Awakening as a blueprint, and let them work from there. Emphasize that it's not a "remake", but a genuine sequel just as DKCR is. Gotta be bigger and better while encapsulating the core values of the games.
Threi said:
It could have very easily been the 'C' button. Not to mention the 'Z' and 'B' button do the same thing.
I don't have a problem with the motion controls, I actually really like them and I think they work fine, I just believe in this day an age the more control options the better. Hell, every Nintendo game should support CC, even wii sports and Mario Galaxy.
Big One said:
Only the month? I'd argue it's contender for GOTY across all platforms.
Anticitizen One
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Wait is this game supposed to be played with Nunchuck? I've been playing it with the wiimote sidways
Eteric Rice
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udivision said:
I've been playing it with just the Wii-mote and it works fine for me.
I think this is my favorite music so far: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ioj3queVo0
Northern Hemisphere mixed with Sanctuary Fortress from MP2? Also just heard the remix Voices of the Temple, very nice.
Northern Hemisphere mixed with Sanctuary Fortress from MP2? Also just heard the remix Voices of the Temple, very nice.
Hm. Just listening to the soundtrack (it's all available now). And yeah, it's nowhere near the level of DKC2 unfortunately - or even Metroid Prime 1 or 2! Disappointing. It's serviceable, but I expected more from yamamoto. I don't understand why he resorted to just replicating some tracks note for note (jungle theme, treetops, life in the mines, temple, forest) rather than taking samples of melodies and creating his own tracks (like he did with a select few, and like what Wise and Fischer did with 2 and 3). Each DKC had its own unique sound, but this...doesn't.
It actually sounds more like DK64 than DKC in a few tracks (namely some boss music).
No, just remixes from DKC1 - nothing from 2 or 3.
It actually sounds more like DK64 than DKC in a few tracks (namely some boss music).
Oblivion said:
No, just remixes from DKC1 - nothing from 2 or 3.
Sgt.Pepper
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World 4 is awesome.
JPBrowncoat
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I got my ass kicked hard there. But it was pretty damned awesome.Sgt.Pepper said:
pro_gamer666
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I think they should either work on an original IP or try their hand at another franchise. F-Zero? Star Fox? MOTHER!? (not going to happen, at all...)
I'd be down with a Retro developed Zelda, these mother fuckers know how to make some games.
I'd be down with a Retro developed Zelda, these mother fuckers know how to make some games.
richisawesome said:
Yeah the soundtrack is kind of disappointing to me. They got the level design right but for whatever reason I can't get into the wraparounds. The soundtrack, overworld map, the Scooby Doo style voice-overs for DK etc just set a really vanilla tone.
With that being said though the game is incredibly fun.
Read my post again. It was meant to address how you laughed at people that were telling you the merits of the game, as if you hadn't only said up until that point that you were considering it. Then your 'decision had been made' and everyone else was a fool for ever thinking otherwise.Amir0x said:
Please don't use my talking about something else as rationale for you to step on your cherished soapbox to restate aggressive opinions that really don't interest me. I only ever wanted to address this:Amir0x said:
"I like that the difficulty is so high"/"I'm not sure if I'll get it" <----> HOURS/DAYS PASS <----> "I played it weeks ago, hated it, why would I ever like this? You guys are silly"
Also, I had no idea that you had such a dearth of free time - your gaming and posting habits gave me the wrong impression, I suppose.
Sgt.Pepper
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Fuck you 4-K.
Green Mamba
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I've just beat the game (sans the
), it's a really awesome game (better than the originals maybe?), but seriously, shake to roll is inexcuseably retarded and genuinely got me killed a few times in the final boss fight.
Golden Temple
Tricky I Shadow
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_Alkaline_ said:
Nope. Though I'd like to go......
I got DKCR today and man I couldn't wait to play as Diddy and cartwheeling everywhere. When I finally got Diddy I couldn't play as him. I read the manual and found out that he is only available in 2P mode. Who came out with that idea? Already my enthuesiaism for this game has dropped. Is all Diddy suppose to do is be a jetpack for DK?
Is all Diddy suppose to do is be a jetpack for DK?Sgt.Pepper
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That, and he gives you infinite roll. I don't have anyone to play with so I haven't tried co-op.pgtl_10 said:I got DKCR today and man I couldn't wait to play as Diddy and cartwheeling everywhere. When I finally got Diddy I couldn't play as him. I read the manual and found out that he is only available in 2P mode. Who came out with that idea? Already my enthuesiaism for this game has dropped.
I believe they came up with that from NSMBWii, where you could only play 1-P with Mario.
Sgt.Pepper said:
What a shame! the beauty of DKC was the contrast between characters as a team. This reminds of Crystal Chronicles where the fun stuff is only allowed in two player mode. Having to switch out between characters at certain point would have made the game so much funner. Apprarently throwing Diddy won't happen either? I'm dissapointed in the limitations.
Finished, really solid platformer and stays true to DKC's roots. Beautiful game too. Of all the levels I've played 1-K gotta be the best one.
Gotta say I didn't enjoy the motion controls, and I had some responsiveness issues more than once, especially near the end when things get more complicated. Should've made it so that any kind of shake made you roll, like the spin in SMG.
Gotta say I didn't enjoy the motion controls, and I had some responsiveness issues more than once, especially near the end when things get more complicated. Should've made it so that any kind of shake made you roll, like the spin in SMG.
Sgt.Pepper
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Did you do the Time Trials? 1-K Gold Medal is one of my favorites.jett said:
Yep, this game is great except for the forced motion control.
The motion control seems too sensitive when you're about to pummel a Tiki enemy after a boss fight when using the Wii remote controller sideways. I just barely moved the controller and it instantly caused DK to punch out the Tiki in 1 hit.
The level design is brilliantly evil. I'm currently on World 4 and was ashamed to use the Super Guide for the first time in the mine cart level with the blue crystals that lower down to hit your head if you don't duck (I can get past the mole that throws the bomb but then I screw up). I can only imagine how much more difficult this game would be if you were only given 1 life per level. Retro made the right call to give players more hearts and several opportunities to earn extra lives.
I really liked the first Sunset level and the one where you ride on top of the whale too. WAs not a fan of the pirate ship cannon ball bombardment sections of some of the beach levels. u. It's kind of hard to tell where they'll land as they slightly follow you and don't have a shadow appear on the ground before they explode. Plus, you can still die by getting too close to an exploding bomb. I got really frusterated and lost a handful of lives at the end of an early level where DK has to be shot out of that barrel and into the mouth of a big Monkey statue.
I hope there's more interesting enemies besides the crabs and Tiki. I liked the chicken/turkey (whatever it is) walking on bamboo sticks and those fuzzy, little critters that make funny noises.
The motion control seems too sensitive when you're about to pummel a Tiki enemy after a boss fight when using the Wii remote controller sideways. I just barely moved the controller and it instantly caused DK to punch out the Tiki in 1 hit.
The level design is brilliantly evil. I'm currently on World 4 and was ashamed to use the Super Guide for the first time in the mine cart level with the blue crystals that lower down to hit your head if you don't duck (I can get past the mole that throws the bomb but then I screw up). I can only imagine how much more difficult this game would be if you were only given 1 life per level. Retro made the right call to give players more hearts and several opportunities to earn extra lives.
I really liked the first Sunset level and the one where you ride on top of the whale too. WAs not a fan of the pirate ship cannon ball bombardment sections of some of the beach levels. u. It's kind of hard to tell where they'll land as they slightly follow you and don't have a shadow appear on the ground before they explode. Plus, you can still die by getting too close to an exploding bomb. I got really frusterated and lost a handful of lives at the end of an early level where DK has to be shot out of that barrel and into the mouth of a big Monkey statue.
I hope there's more interesting enemies besides the crabs and Tiki. I liked the chicken/turkey (whatever it is) walking on bamboo sticks and those fuzzy, little critters that make funny noises.
Yep. That's about the time I started hating the waggle as well. Didn't help that I was just half way through world 5 or 6, because I hated it the rest of the way.:lolTheExodu5 said:
Edit - Tried with the Wiimote + Nunchuk as well, it was easier to execute the roll but I end up hitting the + button accidentally and pausing the game.
Sgt.Pepper
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Weird. Just so you know, rolls are much more effective after and before jumping, don't shake too much or it won't recognize the shake; you have to do them timely. It's actually quite easy, try the 1-K Time trial video for reference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI91ByKpKpU
You can only do roll if you're pressing forward, otherwise it will do the pound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI91ByKpKpU
You can only do roll if you're pressing forward, otherwise it will do the pound.
Gram Negative Cocci
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D-Pad said:
Some of you guys are really weird about this. No offense, but that has never happened to me regarding waggling.
Sgt.Pepper
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Same, I haven't accidentally done any action I didn't want or that didn't respond to my shake. It has worked perfectly to me, in fact I just did Gold 1-2 without any problem.Gram Negative Cocci said:
Gram Negative Cocci
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Sgt.Pepper said:
No, I'm saying that I've played a lot of wii games, and I've never shook the wiimote and ended up hitting the pause button. I have to wonder if the people who complain about motion controls don't have a clue how to do them effectively.
To be fair, some games aren't sensitive enough. Sonic Colors requires an almost whip like motion to register. Not sure how it is for donkey kong yet though, need more money.
Green Mamba
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Run button...apana said:
Gram Negative Cocci
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apana said:
I believe you have to hold the grab button. It doubles as a run button.
Fuck it. I'm not doing time trials. They're way too friggin hard, and the waggle just makes it even more infuriating. I spent 45 minutes trying to get 1-1, and the closest I got was a seemingly flawless run 0.3 seconds off. The fact that they made roll jump faster than regular platforming just makes time trials dumb.
Bisnic said:Yeah, that works well unless you have Diddy with you. Then you just hover over the enemy and fail to do a boost jump, then it require precise timing.
True, Diddy does mess you up, but like I said, I'm mainly playing in co-op, so I'm usually playing as Donkey only. I did play for a few minutes on single player today though to try and get a feel for the timing w/ Diddy. The jump boosts are harder to do when you have that monkey on your back, but it's still doable with practice. With Diddy, you have to press and hold jump *right before* you hit the enemy, ie when there's a small sliver of pixels between Donkey's feet and the enemy. If you time it right you'll get your high jump; it doesn't matter if you've used the jet pack or not. Somewhat difficult, but with just level or two of practice I was able to hit it pretty consistently.