Kandinsky said:
I swear some people just don't have the coordination to use even the simplest motion controls. I have had aboslutely no problems with the roll in DKCR, the spin in Mario Galaxy or NSMB Wii, or the tricks in Mario Kart Wii.
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Donkey Kong Country Returns |OT| Retro Studios Has Done It Again!
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I swear some people just don't have the coordination to use even the simplest motion controls. I have had aboslutely no problems with the roll in DKCR, the spin in Mario Galaxy or NSMB Wii, or the tricks in Mario Kart Wii.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
I can't find the last puzzle piece in 1-4! It's the last one I need for the first world.
Son.Ralph.Funk
Member
This may sound crazy, because we all know Ninty would never hand over the keys, but who wants to see Retro's take on Super Mario Bros.? Not Paper Mario or any other spin off, but the core SMB series.
And is there some way to make the first post in these threads editable by all of us so that it can be updated with all the reviews?
And is there some way to make the first post in these threads editable by all of us so that it can be updated with all the reviews?
crankypants
Member
Sgt.Pepper said:
Buy the parrot. You don't have to worry about hording your coins...you'll have tons of them by the end.
nincompoop
Banned
Seriously. If people are that pathetically uncoordinated that they can't perform a simple flick of the wrist then why do they even own a Wii in the first place? It gets kind of annoying having to read "Waah waah waggle iz 2 hard 4 me!" posts all the time.Ushojax said:
Green Mamba
Member
Diddy shoots his peanut popgun when he slams the ground, but only in 2 player mode. There is no way to get Diddy to shoot peanuts in single player.Platy said:
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Level 1-K is pure platforming awesomeness.
Slightly off topic, but instead of going out and purchasing DKCR, I went and bought DKC2 on VC instead. I had never played anything past the first few stages and it's quite enjoyable (but kind of foul looking). Only on the third area (the bayou?) and it's already had some challenging moments. Going to try and finish it before picking up DKCR, which might be difficult given how fantastic it looks and sounds.
Probably, but I think it has more to do with the art style used for the games than anything else. While it looked amazing back in the day, the pre-rendered sprites style used in games like this and both Diablo games just doesn't hold up today. No complaints when I play Super Metroid or Super Mario World on my TV, those still look good to me.
That said, it's still got great atmosphere and some neat visual touches, like the water in the flooded ship levels or the rainstorms. Mostly bought it because of how much I love the soundtrack (thanks YouTube!) and how well-regarded it is here on GAF. That, and I really adored DKC1 back when it came out.
That said, it's still got great atmosphere and some neat visual touches, like the water in the flooded ship levels or the rainstorms. Mostly bought it because of how much I love the soundtrack (thanks YouTube!) and how well-regarded it is here on GAF. That, and I really adored DKC1 back when it came out.
Sgt.Pepper said:
Awesome level, for anyone who wants to try the time trial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI91ByKpKpU
nincompoop
Banned
Probably not. People who automatically write off games with motion controls are most likely too immature to enjoy Nintendo's games in the first place.agrajag said:
Stormwatch
Member
nincompoop said:
I find that this game requires so much precision that the "waggle" gets in the way sometimes. I've had instances where the waggle activates on the upswing, sometimes on the downswing, and sometimes it takes as long as a couple shakes before it kicks in. I haven't tried the controls with the nunchuck yet, maybe that works better for the waggle, but I prefer the digital pad for movement.
Don't get me wrong, I'm really enjoying this game. I just think it would be a 10 in my mind if they mapped the controls differently.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
That fucking red crab in tidal terror; why is it next to the red button?
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@ 2-K
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Shadowlink
Member
Died so many times because of that bastard. :lolSgt.Pepper said:That fucking red crab in tidal terror; why is it next to the red button?
Edit:@ 2-K
Katzenjammer
Member
Seriously. How can you defend such a stupid, constraining move by Retro? Speedrunning 1-K requires a lot of rolling at the right time to get the right momentum, and most of the time it needs to be done in a very precise manner. When I fail halfway through because the waggle didn't trigger properly, I have nothing but the controls to blame. It would be a non-issue for them to assign roll to the grab button, or give the option for it.nincompoop said:
I don't really buy the argument of "rolling is rarely needed" either, if I want to play the whole game by rolling through it (as I do) I should be able to dos o without having to worry about if I will make the next jump as I intended or if DK will just ignore my shaking. Maybe I should add that I had no problems whatsoever with the waggle in any of the recent Mario games.
othersteve
Member
PunjabiPlaya said:My thumbs may be hurting, but I did it, I beat the game along with all the K levels. I can also proudly say that I did it without once using the super guide. Easily one of my favorite games this year and definitely the best platformers I've played in ages.
One question now,do you get anything for beating the Golden Temple (9-1) level or is it just an extra level to die on a hundred times?
Mirror Mode, which also brings DK's life down to a single heart and eliminates Diddy
Are you sure it's not just because you waggled too early (before hitting the ground)?elementman said:
Also shaking in the air will negate any shake attempt if you land. Since sudden deceleration will be detected, and I assume they don't instantly make you land to roll while continually shaking to avoid complaints about "accidental rolls while waggling"
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
Zelda 2 returns by retro.rezuth said:
Eteric Rice
Member
I'm starting to wonder if some people have broken Wiimotes or something.
abstract alien
Member
I loved the spin in galaxy and thought its implementation was perfect. Never once did I have an issue with it. The rolling on the other hand is a bit of an issue for me since you have to gesture a bit harder and it only seems to recognize when you motion downward. It won't register if I do it in any other direction or do it lightly like in galaxy. That coupled with the fact you do it a lot (blowing, pounding, rolling) makes it less enjoyable for me. It does work, but I wish it had some sensitivity options so I could crank them up. I've had a few accidental deaths due to not flicking it hard enough.Kandinsky said:
Just beat the game (tore through the main levels without collecting everything).
The last boss--wow, let's just say that he came really close to costing me a wiimote. I was very tempted to use the Super-Guide a couple times in the last two worlds, but I refused and persevered.
Absolutely a candidate for GOTY in my book.What's next for Retro? As much as I'd love to get another DK, I think that Star Fox needs them.
The last boss--wow, let's just say that he came really close to costing me a wiimote. I was very tempted to use the Super-Guide a couple times in the last two worlds, but I refused and persevered.
Absolutely a candidate for GOTY in my book.What's next for Retro? As much as I'd love to get another DK, I think that Star Fox needs them.
Man, World 4 was hard.
Now to World 5. The first stage is already awesome Best level design ever to grace a 2D platformer, so far.
edit: Retro needs to work on a 2D/3D Donkey Kong Galaxy. I believe they would put even more care in the level design than EAD Tokyo.
edit 2: How do I unlock those x-K stages and time trials? Getting all collectibles in a world? Because that would take me very long :lol
Even if was a mine cart/rocket barrel only world, I loved it.
Best level design ever to grace a 2D platformer, so far.edit: Retro needs to work on a 2D/3D Donkey Kong Galaxy. I believe they would put even more care in the level design than EAD Tokyo.
edit 2: How do I unlock those x-K stages and time trials? Getting all collectibles in a world? Because that would take me very long :lol
best thing about that vid is the guy playing is doing the roll-as-soon-as-you-land technique (a complaint against waggle controls specifically stated on this very page) effortlessly and repeatedly every time he wants to. It's pretty obvious what's going on here...Haunted said:
...he's a robot which is able to reprogram the wiimote through a connector in his palm so that it registers motions via his mind.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Not all, but quite a few. I got 2-K without getting all the puzzle pieces. They probably take into account your total puzzle pieces, it is my guess though.GWX said:Man, World 4 was hard.Now to World 5. The first stage is already awesomeEven if was a mine cart/rocket barrel only world, I loved it.
edit: Retro needs to work on a 2D/3D Donkey Kong Galaxy. I believe they would put even more care in the level design than EAD Tokyo.
edit 2: How do I unlock those x-K stages and time trials? Getting all collectibles in a world? Because that would take me very long :lol
Edit: Even 1-1 Gold time trial is hard.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Try that time trial. Holy balls.Nabs said:
Katzenjammer
Member
Bah, it's unintuitive is what it is. I suppose I have to practice it to get better, even though I feel as I shouldn't have to. It's unintuitive and feels awkward.Threi said:
I wonder, does anyone actually feel like the motion controls add anything to the experience? I feel like they only detract from it, or that people are indifferent. Is there anyone who can argue against them binding the roll to a button?
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
My record there is 01:11:32, I could have shortened it up if I had rolled more, but I forgot what platforms came after the spike ceilings.Instro said:
I wish we could save replays!
2 Minutes Turkish
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Bisnic said:
How about give Icarus to Retro?
personally I don't feel motion adds a thing in this game.
Mashing a button to ground pound, and holding a button to roll would provide equal results.
However the controls in this game (and many other wii games) are perfectly serviceable. My issue more than anything is people who blame any and everything regarding control on "unresponsive waggle". Like I said before if there is anything to fault the controls for (which is barely anything), it would be the fact that they mapped so many actions to motion. That issue wouldn't go away if it was mapped to a button.
Mashing a button to ground pound, and holding a button to roll would provide equal results.
However the controls in this game (and many other wii games) are perfectly serviceable. My issue more than anything is people who blame any and everything regarding control on "unresponsive waggle". Like I said before if there is anything to fault the controls for (which is barely anything), it would be the fact that they mapped so many actions to motion. That issue wouldn't go away if it was mapped to a button.
othersteve
Member
Just wait until you reach the final boss.Threi said: