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Donkey Kong Country Returns |OT| Retro Studios Has Done It Again!

.la1n

.la1n

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Pinzer said:
This game is an absolute blast, but it is not Donkey Kong Country.
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I am also one of the original Donkey Kong Country die hards. I like the first game better than two or three. I didn't enjoy playing a Donkey Kong game without Donkey Kong in the lead role, glad to see him back.

This game doesn't bring back the feeling I got playing the original DKC but it's a damn good attempt and on that I applaud them, It's still number 2 in my favorites for the series and hey that's not half bad.
 
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Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
desu said:
It seems the geckocodes for Classic Controller Support are almost reality now!

crediar and thomas83lin seem to have worked it out (can't tell if it really works already) on the gecko forums. We should find out soon.
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Homebrew bless our hearts!
 
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Jeff Stephen

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RawkHawk2010 said:
And why do you say that?
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:lol
On world 5 atm and like many have said, I sure do miss the Kremlins.
 
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epmode

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I agree that this feels pretty different than the old DKC games. I just happen to like it more!

But honestly, if your reason for preferring the old games is Rare's character design, I don't even know where to begin.
desu said:
It seems the geckocodes for Classic Controller Support are almost reality now!

crediar and thomas83lin seem to have worked it out (can't tell if it really works already) on the gecko forums. We should find out soon.
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This news is the best news. Kind of sad that we have to hack our consoles to turn it into one of the best platformers ever but that's Nintendo for you.

edit: Will I need to use a USB HDD to get this to work? I've never used Gecko for codes and I still run my games off of the discs.
 
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Jintor

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This game is great fun and all, but I can't help but feel that I'd be enjoying this so much more on the train, or in my room, or on the bus...

I don't know, 2D platformers outside of portable entertainment aren't my thing for some reason.

So do you dudes think this game is Nintendo hard? It seems pretty forgiving to me :p
 
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jett

D-Member
Instro said:
Its pretty much better in every way.
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Objectively, it totally is.

Unfortunately nostalgia plays a big role when making these kind of comparisons. :p I personally enjoyed the atmosphere DKC created to the point where I can almost look past its other shortcomings.
 
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Mr Sandman

Banned
Man they really are advertising this shit out of this game on Comedy Central. Every time they play an ad I cry a little inside knowing I wont get to play this until Christmas (hey my mom wanted to get me something). <3 Retro.
 
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epmode

Member
I've never looked into these Gecko codes before. I have a hacked Wii with the latest Homebrew Channel and Gecko OS 1.9.3. Is this all I'm going to need to run the upcoming DKC code or will I need some extra hardware.

I'm confused because it looks like there's something called USB Gecko and I don't think it's related to Gecko OS at all.
 
Nabs

Nabs

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epmode said:
I've never looked into these Gecko codes before. I have a hacked Wii with the latest Homebrew Channel and Gecko OS 1.9.3. Is this all I'm going to need to run the upcoming DKC code or will I need some extra hardware.

I'm confused because it looks like there's something called USB Gecko and don't think it's related to Gecko OS at all.
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you can load 'em your average usb loader, like configurable.
 
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Nessus

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hatchx said:
It's not like NSMB where you can just frolic through the game with small children or your wife.

Co-op is a challenge. I play with my friend who has the game too, and we are both skilled 2D platformers. We do a fine job. There are times (usually when there are breaking platforms) where it just makes more sense for Diddy to jump on DKs back.

I like it, but the game is clearly designed around one-player.
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I like this new direction they've taken in NSMBW and DKCR, however.

I think it's far better than the "take turns" style multiplayer in older platformers, even if the games aren't designed entirely around it.
 
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TheChewyWaffles

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I'm finding this game much "harder" than, say, SMG2. Not saying it's Demon's Souls hard or anything - but I can't just run through it like I can Mario. Maybe I just don't get it yet.
 
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Why would you do that?

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epmode said:
I've never looked into these Gecko codes before. I have a hacked Wii with the latest Homebrew Channel and Gecko OS 1.9.3. Is this all I'm going to need to run the upcoming DKC code or will I need some extra hardware.

I'm confused because it looks like there's something called USB Gecko and I don't think it's related to Gecko OS at all.
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IIRC, they're technically "Ocarina" codes because it's the Ocarina cheat system. Gecko OS supports Ocarina cheats. You can use Gecko OS to apply cheats to your game.

If you'd like to use a USB loader, you can use one of those, too, but you'd probably have to dump the game to a USB drive first.
 
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DMG-01

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Playing DKCR really makes me want to play the other DKC games, so DKC-Gaf, should I buy DKC or DKC2? I half want to start with 2 because it's better apparently, but I would someday like to play them all and don't want to spoil myself on DKC2 for DKC 1 and 3. Also, the SNES versions are the ones to get, right?
 
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Sgt.Pepper

Banned
JoeFenix said:
The level design in this game is peerless, the way every enemy is set up to make it possible to speed through the levels....

It's so awesome! The time trials are blowing my mind, I can't stop playing this damn game! :lol

Here's a run of 2-7 Shiny Gold Medal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEf0zJUHt7M
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Damn you're good. I still haven't gotten all the medals in the first world!

DMG-01 said:
Playing DKCR really makes me want to play the other DKC games, so DKC-Gaf, should I buy DKC or DKC2? I half want to start with 2 because it's better apparently, but I would someday like to play them all and don't want to spoil myself on DKC2 for DKC 1 and 3. Also, the SNES versions are the ones to get, right?
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All of them are worthy, so I'd get all of them if I were you. At least get DKC2, if you can't buy them all.
 
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epmode

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Why would you do that? said:
IIRC, they're technically "Ocarina" codes because it's the Ocarina cheat system. Gecko OS supports Ocarina cheats. You can use Gecko OS to apply cheats to your game.

If you'd like to use a USB loader, you can use one of those, too, but you'd probably have to dump the game to a USB drive first.
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Lovely. I still haven't bothered to set up a USB loader so I'm glad that I won't have to for this code.

God I love that we might not even have to wait for DKCR2 to have Classic Controller support.
 
.la1n

.la1n

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DMG-01 said:
Playing DKCR really makes me want to play the other DKC games, so DKC-Gaf, should I buy DKC or DKC2? I half want to start with 2 because it's better apparently, but I would someday like to play them all and don't want to spoil myself on DKC2 for DKC 1 and 3. Also, the SNES versions are the ones to get, right?
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buy DKC 1 first you heathen!
 
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KevinCow

Banned
Jintor said:
So do you dudes think this game is Nintendo hard? It seems pretty forgiving to me :p
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It's forgiving in that they give you plenty of lives, enough that you'll probably never get a game over, but some of the later levels get pretty damn tough. On top of that, there are relatively frequent checkpoints so you don't have to go back too far when you die, and the game saves after every level so even if you do get a game over you don't have to repeat much.

Definitely not Nintendo hard, but you'll lose plenty of lives, especially when you start going for 100%.
 
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Neiteio

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DMG-01 said:
Playing DKCR really makes me want to play the other DKC games, so DKC-Gaf, should I buy DKC or DKC2? I half want to start with 2 because it's better apparently, but I would someday like to play them all and don't want to spoil myself on DKC2 for DKC 1 and 3. Also, the SNES versions are the ones to get, right?
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Only buy the old DKC games if you're going to play them on a standard-def TV the way they were meant to be played. If you play them on a high-def set, they'll look ugly as sin... You can also check out videos on YouTube to see the way they should look (assuming good quality on the part of the uploader, of course).
 
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epmode

Member
OK, I just got the Classic Controller Gecko OS code to work. SO RAD.

edit: Hold on, updating instructions since editing with Notepad doesn't work.
 
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DMG-01

Member
Sgt.Pepper said:
All of them are worthy, so I'd get all of them if I were you. At least get DKC2, if you can't buy them all.
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.la1n said:
buy DKC 1 first you heathen!
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Neiteio said:
Only buy the old DKC games if you're going to play them on a standard-def TV the way they were meant to be played. If you play them on a high-def set, they'll look ugly as sin... You can also check out videos on YouTube to see the way they should look (assuming good quality on the part of the uploader, of course).
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Thanks for the feedback; will order DKC 1 probably tomorrow and the other two later when I can justify buying more games.
 
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jett

D-Member
I don't know what some of you are smoking but DKCR can be hard as all fuck sometimes and frustrating as hell.
 
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TheGreatMightyPoo

Banned
jett said:
I don't know what some of you are smoking but DKCR can be hard as all fuck sometimes and frustrating as hell.
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It's certainly not an easy game, it might be easier most of the time than some reviewers suggest but 1/3 the people saying it is easy are lying to look cool, 1/3 haven't done all the levels and/or gotten everything in each of them and 1/3 are too good at games.

I think the difficulty is well done bordering on tough at times.
 
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epmode

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USE A CLASSIC CONTROLLER IN DONKEY KONG COUNTRY RETURNS

I'm pretty sure that this will only work with the USA version of the game but I haven't tested it.

If you want to try, I have two separate configs so far. One that puts [waggle on R, 1 on Y and 2 on B], the other switches waggle to A instead.

Requires: Hacked Wii, the latest version of Gecko OS (I used 1.9.3), the PC version of Ocarina Code Manager (I got it here: http://wiird.l0nk.org/ocarina.zip )

Extract the Code Manager zip anywhere on your computer, go into the pc subfolder and run codemgr.exe

When it opens, enter the Game ID as SF8E01
Click Add a Code/Comment/Category. The name is arbitrary but I used Classic Controller
Click on the Classic Controller cheat that just appeared.
Game Name is arbitrary but you can use Donkey Kong Country Returns

You paste one of the two codes into the Code Contents section depending on which configuration you want to use. The first code will put waggle on R, 1 on Y and 2 on B. The second code switches waggle to A instead of R:

C24A3FC0 00000020
38210050 7C0802A6
80B50060 48000041
80950000 7CA52378
90B50000 80B50064
4800002D 80950004
7CA52378 90B50004
80B50068 48000019
80950008 7CA52378
90B50008 7C0803A6
4E800020 70A40200
2C040000 4182000C
38C0012D B0D50186
38C00000 70A40800
2C040000 41820008
60C68000 70A40020
2C040000 41820008
60C60200 70A40040
2C040000 41820008
60C60100 70A40001
2C040000 41820008
60C60002 70A40002
2C040000 41820008
60C60008 70A48000
2C040000 41820008
60C60004 70A44000
2C040000 41820008
60C60001 70A40400
2C040000 41820008
60C60010 70A41000
2C040000 41820008
60C61000 7CC53378
60000000 00000000
04387CF0 38A00000
0438526C 28000009



C24A3FC0 00000020
38210050 7C0802A6
80B50060 48000041
80950000 7CA52378
90B50000 80B50064
4800002D 80950004
7CA52378 90B50004
80B50068 48000019
80950008 7CA52378
90B50008 7C0803A6
4E800020 70A40010
2C040000 4182000C
38C0012D B0D50186
38C00000 70A40800
2C040000 41820008
60C68000 70A40020
2C040000 41820008
60C60200 70A40040
2C040000 41820008
60C60100 70A40001
2C040000 41820008
60C60002 70A40002
2C040000 41820008
60C60008 70A48000
2C040000 41820008
60C60004 70A44000
2C040000 41820008
60C60001 70A40400
2C040000 41820008
60C60010 70A41000
2C040000 41820008
60C61000 7CC53378
60000000 00000000
04387CF0 38A00000
0438526C 28000009



Click Store Modifications
Check the box next to Classic Controller
Click Export to GCT (say Yes to the popup that asks if you want to store modifications), choose the appropriate drive letter for your memory card, click Store.

Load up Gecko OS and make sure that the Use SD Cheats option is turned on in the configuration menu. If it is, the code should be detected at launch.

If you get an error message about the controller being unrecognized or something, you're going to have to edit a few of those hex codes. I think it has something to do with the version of the game you're running. Version 1 or 2 (I apparently have version 1). Please see this thread for more information: http://wiird.l0nk.org/forum/index.php/topic,7134.120.html

edit: But just to have everything in this post, I'm pretty sure I know how this Version 1, Version 2 thing goes. If you have version 2 (I don't know how to check for this before testing a code), you'll have to change the first line in the code as well as the last two.

Again, the codes I posted are for version 1. If they don't work for you,
change the first line from C24A3FC0 00000020 to C24A5F70 00000020

Change the second to last line from 04387CF0 38A00000 to 04389B90 38A00000

Change the last line from 0438526C 28000009 to 0438710C 28000009
 
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Instro

Member
jett said:
Objectively, it totally is.

Unfortunately nostalgia plays a big role when making these kind of comparisons. :p I personally enjoyed the atmosphere DKC created to the point where I can almost look past its other shortcomings.
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There's certain games where I get like that as well, so I understand the sentiment. Who cares though, both are awesome games, its nice to see a basically overwhelming positive reaction to a new game in an old franchise.

KevinCow said:
It's forgiving in that they give you plenty of lives, enough that you'll probably never get a game over, but some of the later levels get pretty damn tough. On top of that, there are relatively frequent checkpoints so you don't have to go back too far when you die, and the game saves after every level so even if you do get a game over you don't have to repeat much.

Definitely not Nintendo hard, but you'll lose plenty of lives, especially when you start going for 100%.
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Its forgiving with the amount of lives it gives you, but in this day and age where you can save a game at any point you want, theres really no point to limiting the amount of lives/continues given to a player. Out of interest when you guys say "Nintendo hard" are we talking classic Nintendo games or what?
 
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ismaboof

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Can you install this Gecko OS on the red Wiis with 4.3 firmware? Is there any chance of bricking the wii during the installation?
 
DR2K

DR2K

Banned
I still have half of world 7 and 8 to go, but this definitely isn't anywhere near as good as DKC2. Although it is a little better than 3. Haven't played DKC1 though.
 
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TheGreatMightyPoo

Banned
DR2K said:
I still have half of world 7 and 8 to go, but this definitely isn't anywhere near as good as DKC2. Although it is a little better than 3. Haven't played DKC1 though.
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Of course your opinion is fine but I disagree totally, the level design is much more creative than 2 and the game is more exciting and fun, I wouldn't play 2 right after this one, I doubt it'd be favorable in comparison.

The K levels alone are better designed than most platformers and while they are a bit obstacle coursey and don't have the presentational values, them being "bonus" levels shows you how complete a game this is.

I can't remember a game with better level design than this one.
 
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Salsa

Member
Man im about to start a new save file in SP but i promised a friend to play through the game for the first time in co-op :(

we were at level 4 and i havent played in like 3 days GODAMMIT
 
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Jintor

Member
KevinCow said:
It's forgiving in that they give you plenty of lives, enough that you'll probably never get a game over, but some of the later levels get pretty damn tough. On top of that, there are relatively frequent checkpoints so you don't have to go back too far when you die, and the game saves after every level so even if you do get a game over you don't have to repeat much.

Definitely not Nintendo hard, but you'll lose plenty of lives, especially when you start going for 100%.
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I think it's approaching Nintendo hard, but there's many many pick-me-ups for gamers who don't want to spend hours of their time fighting a level, just minutes :p
 
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GWX

Member
TheGreatMightyPoo said:
Of course your opinion is fine but I disagree totally, the level design is much more creative than 2 and the game is more exciting and fun, I wouldn't play 2 right after this one, I doubt it'd be favorable in comparison.

The K levels alone are better designed than most platformers and while they are a bit obstacle coursey and don't have the presentational values, them being "bonus" levels shows you how complete a game this is.

I can't remember a game with better level design than this one.
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Pretty much. It's a very dynamic, alive platformer with excellent level design all around. It has variety on the right measure: gimmicks/designs never feel underused or overused, and the K levels take them to the extreme.
I believe the flow/pacing/progression of DKCR is even better than both Super Mario Galaxy games.

Well done, Retro. Now make more platformers.
 
Nose Master

Nose Master

Member
SalsaShark said:
Man im about to start a new save file in SP but i promised a friend to play through the game for the first time in co-op :(

we were at level 4 and i havent played in like 3 days GODAMMIT
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Just do it, man. You can fake it.
 
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Kyleripman

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Pinzer said:
This game is an absolute blast, but it is not Donkey Kong Country.
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I think this is 100% a DKC game - it doesn't retain all the elements of the series that I would have wished for, but it nails the feel of the environments and the gameplay is exactly as it should be - a modernized take on the original.
 
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DXB-KNIGHT

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Bought this game Yesterday and I'm having a blast playing it with my bro
We had a Game Over at level 1-2 this never to me since SMB3,
Good job Retro I'm really Lovin it because its hand shacking good :D
 
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epmode

Member
Balb said:
Works great. Thanks for being very specific as to what should be done to make the codes work.
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I'm glad it worked for someone other than myself!

I wound up sticking with the waggle on R configuration. It's a little confusing at first, especially if you were used to the SNES games, but having everything mapped to the face buttons makes some stuff too hard to pull off.
 
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