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Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze |OT| There's always money in the banana stand
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Calamari41
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(World 3 boss spoiler) Did anybody else get a kick out of
the phase where they start doing Sonic's spin dash, down to the same or at least very similar sound effect?
MindCollizion
Member
First thing that came to my mind!
eighty(one)
Member
I agree.
I stated earlier I find the movement clunky and slippery, all at once. Too much momentum with DK; the controls can feel off and imprecise, especially if you need to jump or come to a stop quickly.
Outtrigger888
Member
The amount they squeezed out of the Wii U, with maintaining what seems to be a locked 60fps, with AA, is impressive.
Could be me, but it seems the game gets more visually impressive, as you progress. The animations are top-notch.
It seems Retro is only capable of quality
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
It's probably been discussed, but in regards to Animal Buddies...
I don't think they really fit Retro's Donkey Kong Country, thus why we have yet to see them make a triumphant return and, in my opinion, we likely won't unless Retro sacrifices a few elements of Returns...
First off, the feel and gameplay of Retro's Donkey Kong just wouldn't flow with the other Animal Buddies. In the original Donkey Kong Country, the levels were designed to be much more limiting when it came to platforming, as in you're usually restricted to pretty much a small field of view when it comes to making your jumps (there are exceptions), and jumps were usually "hit-or-miss", you usually couldn't recover from a blunder that easy. Thus the Animal Buddies, such as Expresso, often served the purpose of giving your more freedom of movement and acting as a way to make the platforming "easier", when the level wasn't using the Animal Buddy specifically as a challenge as was the case in the bonus worlds.
Furthermore, the original DKCs also featured more traditional left-to-right, or up-to-down levels that, while tight, were also open-ended enough that you could use Animal Buddies to bypass certain elements or head in different directions without messing with the flow of the level. In Returns, that's all changed, as the level design is both more open in terms of platforming, as the Kongs are way more acrobatic and the more fluid dynamics of 3D platforming allow you to often tackle platforms in a variety of different ways yet, at the same time, the levels are also built to have a certain flow, with the stage often changing quickly on the fly, requiring a certain amount of stability on the part of what the characters are capable of doing and, for the most part, discouraging "mounts" that would allow you to bypass certain sequences entirely.
I feel if they actually included more Animal Buddies, it likely wouldn't be in the old sense where they were like Yoshi and simply added on to the basic mechanics, they'd probably be incorporated as their own "stage gimmicks", like how Rambi's in so few levels and, when he is in one, the entire level is more or less dedicated to utilizing him, where in the old Donkey Kong Countries, usually Animal Buddies were an addition to a stage, not the primary focus, bar a few special cases (especially in 3). Rambi being in any other normal level would just throw things off.
Beyond that, all the Pre-existing Animal Buddies are basically made redundant now, or wouldn't really make the transition well. Ellie and Squitter's unique elements are a bit too slow to work in the faster-paced Returns, the Kongs are capable of much more acrobatic movements now so Expresso and Wrinkly wouldn't be much use, Cranky Kong fills in for Rattly, and as of Tropical Freeze, Enguarde's no longer needed to enable the Kongs to attack underwater. As for Squaks, the Rocket Barrel Boost levels more or less provide the "flying" platforming elements that he did, bar faster-paced. And in general, with more health, there's no need for the Animal Buddies to act as the "third heart" like they did in the original trilogy.
I don't think they really fit Retro's Donkey Kong Country, thus why we have yet to see them make a triumphant return and, in my opinion, we likely won't unless Retro sacrifices a few elements of Returns...
First off, the feel and gameplay of Retro's Donkey Kong just wouldn't flow with the other Animal Buddies. In the original Donkey Kong Country, the levels were designed to be much more limiting when it came to platforming, as in you're usually restricted to pretty much a small field of view when it comes to making your jumps (there are exceptions), and jumps were usually "hit-or-miss", you usually couldn't recover from a blunder that easy. Thus the Animal Buddies, such as Expresso, often served the purpose of giving your more freedom of movement and acting as a way to make the platforming "easier", when the level wasn't using the Animal Buddy specifically as a challenge as was the case in the bonus worlds.
Furthermore, the original DKCs also featured more traditional left-to-right, or up-to-down levels that, while tight, were also open-ended enough that you could use Animal Buddies to bypass certain elements or head in different directions without messing with the flow of the level. In Returns, that's all changed, as the level design is both more open in terms of platforming, as the Kongs are way more acrobatic and the more fluid dynamics of 3D platforming allow you to often tackle platforms in a variety of different ways yet, at the same time, the levels are also built to have a certain flow, with the stage often changing quickly on the fly, requiring a certain amount of stability on the part of what the characters are capable of doing and, for the most part, discouraging "mounts" that would allow you to bypass certain sequences entirely.
I feel if they actually included more Animal Buddies, it likely wouldn't be in the old sense where they were like Yoshi and simply added on to the basic mechanics, they'd probably be incorporated as their own "stage gimmicks", like how Rambi's in so few levels and, when he is in one, the entire level is more or less dedicated to utilizing him, where in the old Donkey Kong Countries, usually Animal Buddies were an addition to a stage, not the primary focus, bar a few special cases (especially in 3). Rambi being in any other normal level would just throw things off.
Beyond that, all the Pre-existing Animal Buddies are basically made redundant now, or wouldn't really make the transition well. Ellie and Squitter's unique elements are a bit too slow to work in the faster-paced Returns, the Kongs are capable of much more acrobatic movements now so Expresso and Wrinkly wouldn't be much use, Cranky Kong fills in for Rattly, and as of Tropical Freeze, Enguarde's no longer needed to enable the Kongs to attack underwater. As for Squaks, the Rocket Barrel Boost levels more or less provide the "flying" platforming elements that he did, bar faster-paced. And in general, with more health, there's no need for the Animal Buddies to act as the "third heart" like they did in the original trilogy.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I actually felt the checkpoint placement in the Mine Cart/Rocket Barrel levels feels more fair in Tropical Freeze than in Returns, although I'll need to check...
DirtyLarry
Member
How does one get the "DK" coin for each level?
Meaning you have 3 coins that represent the goals and items in each level.
Star Coin (Orange).
Puzzle Coin (Green).
DK Coin (Unknown).
It is that last DK Coin I am not quite sure about and it is driving me nuts, as I know I should remember this, although in all fairness it has been a long time since I played the original DCKR.
Meaning you have 3 coins that represent the goals and items in each level.
Star Coin (Orange).
Puzzle Coin (Green).
DK Coin (Unknown).
It is that last DK Coin I am not quite sure about and it is driving me nuts, as I know I should remember this, although in all fairness it has been a long time since I played the original DCKR.
Metaternal
Member
I've gotten to the credits, now I'm doing the K levels. Just went through 2-K. The level taught me that the timing for getting extra height when jumping on an enemy is FAR looser than what I was doing the entire game. And it only cost me 15 lives.
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
Get a time trial medal. The DK emblem will be the same color as the medal you get.
I thought this too. I've seen 3 checkpoints in some of the TF mine cart levels and I swear Returns never had more than 1-2. I'm not getting nearly as frustrated.
Yeah, but why would I want to do that? I hate shake to roll.
DirtyLarry
Member
Ahhhh that completely explains why it was driving me crazy and why I was not seeing it, as I have not even done a single time trial yet.
Thanks for the fast reply. My mind is finally at ease.
RealDeadOne
Member
I give this game a 2/10.
The graphics, with the exception of the Kongs themselves, are a bit subpar for the console. Luckily expert art design and great lighting make everything look absolutely beautiful, especially in motion.
The music and sound are just nothing short of legendary. When David Wise was announced I had the feeling he was going to disappoint, as many of the old guard from the SNES days do when they return in the modern era. Thankfully Wise blessed this game with one of the most phenomenal soundtracks not just in modern games but even relative to the very best that Nintendo has to offer! It's right up there with the best, actually even blows his DKC2 work out of the water and will be remembered as a classic years from now.
The level design is also brilliant in every department, and while I thought Returns was also fantastic in this regard, Tropical Freeze is even better and more creative, on par with the best of Mario. It definitely trumps the original trilogy in this regard. There hasn't been a single moment in a level that I didn't think was great fun, even parts that were frustrating or difficult had me retrying again and again because it was just that fun to play.
So why is it a 2, you ask? Well the game has one fatal flaw: when you clear a level on the world map and the little fanfare starts to play, DK DOESN'T DANCE, he just stands there!
Good try, Retro, solid effort, but maybe next time you'll get it right.
The graphics, with the exception of the Kongs themselves, are a bit subpar for the console. Luckily expert art design and great lighting make everything look absolutely beautiful, especially in motion.
The music and sound are just nothing short of legendary. When David Wise was announced I had the feeling he was going to disappoint, as many of the old guard from the SNES days do when they return in the modern era. Thankfully Wise blessed this game with one of the most phenomenal soundtracks not just in modern games but even relative to the very best that Nintendo has to offer! It's right up there with the best, actually even blows his DKC2 work out of the water and will be remembered as a classic years from now.
The level design is also brilliant in every department, and while I thought Returns was also fantastic in this regard, Tropical Freeze is even better and more creative, on par with the best of Mario. It definitely trumps the original trilogy in this regard. There hasn't been a single moment in a level that I didn't think was great fun, even parts that were frustrating or difficult had me retrying again and again because it was just that fun to play.
So why is it a 2, you ask? Well the game has one fatal flaw: when you clear a level on the world map and the little fanfare starts to play, DK DOESN'T DANCE, he just stands there!
Good try, Retro, solid effort, but maybe next time you'll get it right.
I wish I had that Robert De Niro gif on hand.
I read the first line & thought 'WTF!!!' and then read the rest. Well played, chap.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Damn, the Africa World really delivers...although I'm finding it a bit easier than the Autumn World.
Loved the cow flying in during the Tornado Level, should've seen that coming. By the way, was the music in that level from the old games? It sounded familiar.
Outtrigger888
Member
Agreed.
I was at least expecting a stereotypical, one finger, disco dance. What did i get? Nothing.
Immediately ejected the disc, threw it at the wall, and it shattered into pieces.
Cheap.
The Xtortionist
Member
50 TRIES LATER, 6-K HARD MODE IS DOWN 
DDDDDDD
Only (spoilers)
DDDDDDDOnly (spoilers)
6-6, 6-7, 6-8, 6-A, 6-B, and world 7 to go.
DaSorcerer7
Member
hi , can anyone tell me how to unlock 1-B and 1-K? :-(
Man, I'm sorry for shitting on you for making another Donkey Kong Country game Retro. Finished the first 2 worlds. This game is so fresh. Almost every level is filled with originality. And it looks and sounds great too!
I will say though. I still think the original DKC games play better. I don´t really like the weighty handling of Donkey Kong. It´s actually an issue that also pops up in the New Super Mario Brothers games.
I will say though. I still think the original DKC games play better. I don´t really like the weighty handling of Donkey Kong. It´s actually an issue that also pops up in the New Super Mario Brothers games.
AntiFacebook
Member
How difficult is this game in comparison to DKCR?
Also,do the temple levels make a return?
Also,do the temple levels make a return?
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Similar difficulty and yes, they Return.
Outtrigger888
Member
The song Funky Waters just may be one of the best songs ive ever heard in a video game, period.
The way Wise captures the characteristics of the kongs, in synth form, is a one of a kind taste.
The way Wise captures the characteristics of the kongs, in synth form, is a one of a kind taste.
yes, i think its better than Aquatic Ambiance
AntiFacebook
Member
Great, I felt that DKCR's difficulty was just right.
It was challenging but not frustrating(except for temples 1&5).
The Xtortionist
Member
It is done.
Outtrigger888
Member
The Xtortionist
Member
Not yet.
u wot m8
I've finished the fifth island and I have to say that it is my favorite so far. With how creative Frozen Fruits was I can't wait to see what they do for the levels on DK Island.
Now beat every level on hard mode with each Kong. Have fun with Punch Bowl as just DK.
Now beat every level on hard mode with each Kong. Have fun with Punch Bowl as just DK.
The Xtortionist
Member
I definitely would if there was a way to track progress on each level per Kong.
And 6-K was the hardest for me by far.
The perfect Dark
Banned
Wow 4-2 was even better than 2-4. Awesome.
