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DOOM Review Thread - The Fury Road of Shooters
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well okay.Rudimental
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probably doesn't take into account marketing cost, advertising cost and the expectations they had.
I'm interested in this game though so I'l be here for impressions from users
The game is definitely self aware.
As for reviews, this game will be good to weed out the publications that just don't want the same thing from games that I do so I can ignore them in future.
johnnydrama
Banned
Because the studio only really ends up with about 50-60% of the revenue from the theatrical run after it's all said and done.
Wait, are people not realizing that the game is self-aware and absolutely ridiculous by design?
That doesn't matter, COD still has a single player campain which is usually always bad. Why should COD getaway with having a bad campain when DOOM doesn't with its multiplayer? They actually are compareble, if you review the whole game for one game you are expected to so for the other, you can't just cherry pick and say COD multiplayer makes up for it and say DOOM's single player doesn't.
Backfoggen
Banned
Score aside, this is a badly written review with weird reasoning. I don't think there is anything to gain from reading it.
johnnydrama
Banned
I hated this game.
mcz117chief
Member
Which Call of Duty has, in your opinion, a bad campaign? I played Call of Duty 1,2,4, Modern Warfare 3 and Black Ops 3 and the only one I didn't find incredibly good is Black Ops 3. Call of Duty 1,2(maybe 3) and 4 were clearly designed around campaign first.
That is how opinions work, some games you like, others you don't, not every game is designed for everyone. For example, I wonder how many people on the planet would agree with me and call NieR the greatest video game of all time.
Malcolm9
Member
I hated this game.
I've had BLOPS 3 since November and have only played it a handful of times in MP, so I decided I will try out the SP mode and I turned it off after 30 minutes, it was incredibly dull and lifeless.
I traded both it and Fallout 4 for DOOM and wow, this game is amazing. Seriously, how IGN can score BLOPS 3 so high is a mystery.
Lol @ this guy's tweet in the middle of the review. Really shows how serious you can take this review. What a consdescendig, attention-whoring idiot.
Along comes the best SP shooter campaign since TNO and of course some reviewers are completely oblivious in the age of COD and other corridor shooters. Trained to eat shit for a decade, now they like it best and don't recognize good food.
Hip Hop
Member
I hated this game.
I don't like it, there for it shouldn't get a good score?
I've always found that CoD campaigns are well made and clearly have a lot of money and effort poured into them but...they are incredibly shallow.
People always reminisce about the "All Ghillied Up" but I'm not sure I understand why. You basically follow a completely scripted character around the entire level. It's as linear and scripted as you could possibly get. The issue is that there aren't any real mechanics there. There is no stealth system in play, the AI doesn't react to the player, every major scene is carefully scripted to happen in a specific way and you can't even go off the beaten path.
It's all spectacle, no substance and people love it.
I've discovered that I prefer a nice middle ground between linear and open ended. Freedom within linearity is the way to go and Doom actually offers that in its own way.
johnnydrama
Banned
Typically, I don't care for reviews and getting mad over them is just silly. But with Doom, the thing is that this is a very rare kind of game in today's gaming landscape, and a lot of people seem to think that it's incredible. While the positive word of mouth is definitely gonna help it, good reviews could boost the sales, so Bethesda get the idea that games like The New Order, The Old Blood, and Doom are what people love and want. Anyway, I hope it ends up with better reviews from other outlets.
That tweet in the middle of the review is very frustrating. And it seems like his complaints either lack the bigger picture or are fairly superficial considering his own uncertainty in regards to tone. "It's fun, yeah, but it's only as fun. It needs to be more-so." How many single-player shooters are as fun as the original DOOM? Not many.
Get a clue, dude. The game is goofy as hell.
Get a clue, dude. The game is goofy as hell.
johnnydrama
Banned
It's more of a "I don't think IGN's reviews align with my tastes anymore" than "fuck IGN". I think they're a fine outlet, but more often than not I find myself not agreeing with them, especially lately.
mcz117chief
Member
I agree with your "all ghillied up" analysis. I didn't enjoy that one much either besides my first playthrough.
Do note I said usually bad and as for bad campains for me personally BO3, AW, Ghosts, MW3. The last decent campain from COD I played was BLOPS 2. I agree with you COD 1 - 4 was great but that was when they put a lot of effort into their campains.
mcz117chief
Member
Honestly my favourite is MW3, especially the Paris missions.
plasmawave
Banned
74 meta.
80 opencritic.
80 opencritic.
Malcolm9
Member
So original *clap clap*......
COD is the same every year, it's more stale than the Assassins Creed series, it's not a case of me liking it or not to have an opinion on the score.
I think the majority will say BLOPS 3 is the worst SP campaign in a COD game yet, and the MP is the same old thing we've seen for years.
DOOM is so refreshing for the FPS genre, the same as TNO was, we need more games like this rather than dull clichéd Hollywood mega dramas that COD provides.
The perfect Dark
Banned
This game is the new king of FPS.
Smooth Operator
Member
That's like, your opinion man. Black Ops 3 has a great multiplayer, even if it's not "new".
Doom, on the other hand, has one of the worst multiplayer i've ever seen in a FPS, and it will affect ratings in a bad way. The campaign is amazing tho'.
COD campaigns are awesome if you think of them as light gun games. I'm not even joking.
Shambalakan
Member
I really hope it will sell great. reviews aren't important for me, I only want great sales and sequels for this amazing game.
johnnydrama
Banned
Man, that's the same argument people use for Batman v Superman and that film was clearly subpar, while Doom isn't. It deserves critical acclaim.
mcz117chief
Member
so you're saying this is The Room of video games?
CyanideFuse
Member
Exclusive preview of Polygon's review:
Holy ****. This got me. This got me real good.
IAmAnAgnostic
Member
Exclusive preview of Polygon's review:
That's not a real quote, right? Please tell me it is not.
Inviusx
Member
Really? I haven't seen that, i heard it sucked.
Lets not fall into review bashing guys. This game is obviously a bit of a marmite game (you either love it or hate it) as its so different from what we normally expect from a shooter.
Plus reviewers are allowed to have different opinions. Games with reviews that have a wide range tell me much more about a game than when reviewers unanimously agree on a game being great.
Plus reviewers are allowed to have different opinions. Games with reviews that have a wide range tell me much more about a game than when reviewers unanimously agree on a game being great.
Sexy af
Just started playing. Less than a minute into the game you break free of restraints, cave in the skulls of some zombies with your fists, receive a request via tablet/computer to collaborate with some creepy sounding guy and break the device because fuck you and then get a shotgun. The new Doom doesn't play around at all, hahaha.
CyanideFuse
Member
Not to use a trite phrase but could some lower reviews be a case of some people not playing it 'right'. I know there will be people that don't like it for what it is and that is expected and completely okay.
But having seen the infamous Polygon footage I can only imagine someone not finding the game all that enjoyable if they play it by-the-numbers, flat-footed and slooooooooowly.
It isn't a funnelled tick-off-each-enemy-in-turn type of game. It is chaotic and fast with a multitude of weapons and mods available to switch on the fly at any given moment to deal with mobile and wily enemies.
Edit: Just saw one of Metro's negatives: Mediocre visuals, especially the art design for Hell.
That surprises me a bit as I have been impressed from the start (PC on Ultra).
But having seen the infamous Polygon footage I can only imagine someone not finding the game all that enjoyable if they play it by-the-numbers, flat-footed and slooooooooowly.
It isn't a funnelled tick-off-each-enemy-in-turn type of game. It is chaotic and fast with a multitude of weapons and mods available to switch on the fly at any given moment to deal with mobile and wily enemies.
Edit: Just saw one of Metro's negatives: Mediocre visuals, especially the art design for Hell.
That surprises me a bit as I have been impressed from the start (PC on Ultra).
I can definitely see a case of people not being used to this kind of shooter (anymore) after a decade of scripted, slow, corridor shootbang and LT->RT shooting mechanics.
Well, when a reviewer peppers his review with his own "assholish" tweets about the game he is reviewing, then I'd say bash away.
ISee
Member
WOW. I had no idea.
roadrunn3r
Member
While I agree that negative reviews should exist even for very good games, (as a large part of a typical review is extremely subjective) it just goes to show once more that reviews are close to useless in terms of helping someone understand if the game is for you. You have to know what that writer values in games and his opinions on past games which you also liked. But yea this is a review thread so I guess all this doesn't matter much.
mcz117chief
Member
we came a long way since then
deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
You know it
Next step, Quake
But please, with classic arena multiplayer with a lot of guns by the floor
u4ea
Member
I wouldn't be surprised a lot of the reviews are done on a console and they play way slower and less twitchy as "classic" pc-gamers.
Yup.
I mean I'm playing on console too but I'm basically playing it like a Burnout game, with Glory Kills being the Takedowns.
plasmawave
Banned
EDIT: NVM lol Didn't know there was a game for that movie.
Fallout-NL
Member
Yeah, except they're not. They're certainly novel given how rare a serviceable story is in videogames, but a focus on traditional storytelling in videogames will almost certainly put certain restrictions on freedom of the player. Carmack definitely had a point.
ISee
Member
Saying that something doesn't deserve a high score because you don't like it is legit. Let's be honest reviews are opinion based. Some reviewers try to be objective but in the end it never works out. You either like the story, gameplay, art design and setting etc. or you don't. You just have to accept that other people like or dislike something you like or dislike yourself. Games are an artform and it's very hard to judge art and it's even harder to measure 'fun'.
I for example really enjoy Dooms SP, I'm even replaying the game on nightmare atm. IMO the SP campaign deserves a 9.0, in IGNs opinion it deserves a 7.1. Who is wrong here? Nobody.