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[TintoConCasera]

I got the Doom reboot on Switch for the gyro cheap but never tried it. I don't mind fast stuff if I have gyro. I was getting some solid times in Neon White on Switch and that's even faster than Doom.

I will probably try some of these eventually. Never played anything Wolfenstein either.

Imo the original is better, but really, you can't go wrong with any DOOM game.

Come to think of it, it's kind of a miracle that the franchise has gone for 30+ years without it being ruined in any way.

 

[The Cockatrice]

I understand, but in fairness to this game the enemies seemed just as aggressive, the main difference is that Doomguy changed from something like Assassin/DPS class to Tank class.

That’s why I’m assuming if you mod the runspeed and don’t use the shield you would get a similar experience to what you’re wanting.

Will see, and I understand they couldnt exactly make the same game again. They have to change the formula once in a while. Either way Im in.

 

[Dr. Suchong]

A return to a slightly more methodical pace, perhaps closer to 2016, will be welcome for me personally.
Eternal was a epilepsy inducing panic attack.

 

[Icymanipulator]

I read this article yesterday, not sure how I feel about slowing the game down, hopefully it will still deliver the adrenaline. Won’t really know until I get my hands on the game. But I thought Eternal was just about perfect, taking a step back from that game has me at least little concerned for how the moment to moment gameplay will feel.

 

[Juza]

Wiki says

Andrew Hulshult - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

But this could very well be an unsubstantiated user edit.

He retweeted the announcement, so I assume he's involved.

 

[TintoConCasera]

He retweeted the announcement, so I assume he's involved.

That's great news! Love this dude's works.

 

[Caio]

Ok, Day Zero.

"those who only got into DOOM with the reboot – I think with they are going to feel like this is a reimagined combat system. But for long-time fans of the series, people who played the original DOOM, you’ll see it’s really a return to form."

Ohhh yeahhhh

 

[LectureMaster]

I wish every single game's dodge was like Returnal and/or Bloodborne. If you give me a button to dodge I want it to actually fucking dodge.

 

[LectureMaster]

Well, I always love mobility in shooters, Titanfall 2 and Doom Eternal for that particular reason.

But I'll of course play a new DOOM regardless.

 

[Dacvak]

This sounds awesome, so long as they don’t make the character movement slow (which, judging by the trailer, they haven’t).

Okay Hugo, now how about burying the hatchet with Mick Gordon so we can actually have a good soundtrack? That limpdick trailer song makes my black heart sad.

 

[March Climber]

Okay Hugo, now how about burying the hatchet with Mick Gordon so we can actually have a good soundtrack? That limpdick trailer song makes my black heart sad.

Who would be a good alternative to Mick?

 

[Dacvak]

Who would be a good alternative to Mick?

I wish I had a good answer to that. I’ve got a friend in the industry who said that his buddy was in the running for OST work on this new DOOM, but they likely just went with David Levy and/or Andrew Hulshult. The trailer especially sounds like Levy.

Both of them are fine composers in their own right, but they utterly fail at capturing Mick’s style. I guess if I couldn’t have Mick Gordon, I’d say maybe someone like Trent Reznor?

I wish all parties would just stop being bitches to each other and agree to work together again. So stupid.

 

[GloveSlap]

Sounds good, didn't care for Eternal at all. Hopefully they get rid of the cringe plot/cutscenes from Eternal as well.

 

[\m/etalStorm]

Wonderful. I just could never get into the hyper-fast combat of Eternal.

 

[Chuck Berry]

Never played a Doom game honestly. I'll probably start with this slow one.

They need a damn gyro controller for the fast ones.

NONE of them? Not even the originals?

 

[Punished Miku]

NONE of them? Not even the originals?

Nope. I was all about Goldeneye and Turok

 

[Bloobs]

Sounds great. Im ready

 

[Nonehxc]

Nice, for me Doom 2016 was just perfect in terms of gunplay, I wouldn't have minded that on Eternal we traded more speed for higher enemy difficulty and none of the weapon change, I just didn't like much having to change between several weapons/launchers to get ammo, shields, etc, I liked the new combat traversal but having to select this or that took me out of the Ballet of Destruction quite a bit.

If Dark Ages is Doom 2016 with Eternal traversal, ammo, shields and health strewn around and higher difficulty enemies I will be a happy Slayer.

 

[ResilientBanana]

Just give me a Shambler to shoot with the Nail Gun

 

[Facism]

I'm glad each Doom game is unique.

FR gonna have 3 GOAT fps games in the same franchise offering different gameplay experiences. Good shit.

 

[Bert Big Balls]

Yeah they seem to have made the maps more open with much larger hordes. Almost reminded me of space marine or something. Can't wait.

 

[Chuck Berry]

I need to reinstall 2016

Back when Giant Bomb was still relatively decent

 

[Bert Big Balls]

I understand, but in fairness to this game the enemies seemed just as aggressive, the main difference is that Doomguy changed from something like Assassin/DPS class to Tank class.

That’s why I’m assuming if you mod the runspeed and don’t use the shield you would get a similar experience to what you’re wanting.

Got a feeling you'd be screwed without the shield though.

 

[SkylineRKR]

Doom Eternal is fun but it feels very exhausting as well. I can get behind a slower paced Doom, where you strafe around bullets and just shoot the fuck out of everything. I don't mind some corridors with secrets though. And wtf is with that dragon riding.

 

[March Climber]

Got a feeling you'd be screwed without the shield though.

You think they might have removed his side dodging?

 

[Chuck Berry]

Kid definitely nailed the Souls roll

 

[Bert Big Balls]

You think they might have removed his side dodging?

Not sure. I was more thinking the increase in enemies and the emphasis on not getting hit by bullets is why they gave him the shield. And without that it'd be an extremely difficult if not impossible game. Could be totally wrong, was just my initial thought.

 

[Yoboman]

I haven't played any of these does 2016 have story or is it just a mindless shooter?

 

[DAHGAMING]

Thank god. I couldn't stand Eternal feeling like I was supposed to be on cocaine in order to play it.

Sounds like this 1 we will have to be on heroin or fentanyl. Im all in, will probably just get all the gear in and speedball so I can get high on Eternal then come down with Dark Ages.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Good. All the platforming in Eternal was awful.

 

[SALMORE]

sounds good to me ... i love both classic & modern Doom games and this one looks like a mix of both

just imagine the horde mode

 

[rodrigolfp]

his means that enemy projectiles move slow, allowing players time to avoid getting hit as they try and close the distance.

Oh no. Slow brains won.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Doom Eternal is fun but it feels very exhausting as well. I can get behind a slower paced Doom, where you strafe around bullets and just shoot the fuck out of everything. I don't mind some corridors with secrets though. And wtf is with that dragon riding.

When the original DOOM is referred to as slow paced … well, it shows how much DOOM Eternal was an FPS on speed.

 

[simpatico]

Shitty, but since we're in an unprecedented AAA drought, I'm still very hyped. I loved getting better at Eternal and learning the combos. By the end I felt like an F-16 of death. It really forced you to get gud in a very fair and measured way. Shame the social media mob killed it. Maybe it didn't translate to controller. I loved every second and it's one of the very very few games I cared about learning to play all the higher difficulties. It was very rewarding. Fucking dopamine machine.

Oh no. Slow brains won.

They really did

 

[lughnasadh123]

Everything about this game keeps getting better and better. A touch slower, more methodical gameplay sounds great. Going through Eternal, while fun, was exhausting after each play session. Bring on the GOAT.

 

[CGNoire]

Honestly from the trailer it seems about as fast as Doom 2016.

If I were to rank speed from fast to slow:

• Doom Eternal
• Doom 2016
• (this is where I think Doom Dark Ages lies)
• Doom 2
• Doom 64
• Doom 1
• Doom 3

I’m fine with most of them, but Doom 3’s speed was a bit too slow.

You forgot Brutal Doom which has faster movement speed than eternal.

 

[Puscifer]

Thank god. I couldn't stand Eternal feeling like I was supposed to be on cocaine in order to play it.

This is damn hilarious but I gotta say I loved when everything clicked and it felt like I was playing DMC in first person.

 

[Varteras]

You forgot Brutal Doom which has faster movement speed than eternal.

 

[CGNoire]

I dont know what it means yet and the trailer were just small slides over the environments and it felt very scripted/slow. I hope its not slow like that. I refuse to play anything less than Doom 2016. I dont care if its in a more open world. Doom Eternal had the perfect combat, cant believe they listened to the pussies.

I felt the same way about GTAV's downgraded car physics.... welcome to the club.

 

[TintoConCasera]

This is damn hilarious but I gotta say I loved when everything clicked and it felt like I was playing DMC in first person.

Same for me. Used to refer to it as "DMC but with guns" until I realized that DMC has guns.

 

[SHA]

The Cyber demon should feel like The Cyber demon, as well as other demons.

 

[Laptop1991]

That's a plus for me, i didn't like Eternal's over the top deathmatch arena style, this news has sold me more on the new Doom.

 

[SHA]

 

[SHA]

Nice, for me Doom 2016 was just perfect in terms of gunplay, I wouldn't have minded that on Eternal we traded more speed for higher enemy difficulty and none of the weapon change, I just didn't like much having to change between several weapons/launchers to get ammo, shields, etc, I liked the new combat traversal but having to select this or that took me out of the Ballet of Destruction quite a bit.

If Dark Ages is Doom 2016 with Eternal traversal, ammo, shields and health strewn around and higher difficulty enemies I will be a happy Slayer.

Yeah, can of ass whooping is different than being fearful.

 

[Griffon]

Good, they acknowledge Eternal wasn't as universally well received as 2016. That's all I needed to hear. I'm in.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Doom is about conflict and it’s what you think of what a shooter is.

 

[unlurkified]

Really glad they’re trying something different as you can’t really improve on the frantic gameplay of Eternal. I wonder if the level design will suffer though from being what looks like open areas with no verticality.

 

[deriks]

Never played a Doom game honestly.

Go fucking play. It's not a favor, it's a obligation to every gamer

 

[balls of snow]

Doom Eternal was fantastic, much better than Doom reboot. Finished it on hard and it was fucking masterclass in moment to moment fps combat. To the point I think ID couldnt go any higher with the combat. Changing gears to becoming a ground Tank with a shield makes sense.

 

[SHA]

Really glad they’re trying something different as you can’t really improve on the frantic gameplay of Eternal. I wonder if the level design will suffer though from being what looks like open areas with no verticality.

It's hard to explain, how to tell the difference between virticality and platforming in modern games? unless you haven't played the original Doom it's impossible to understand, especially Doom 2.