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Acinixys · May 17, 2015

Mordeccai said:
I pop DD, flak cannon, and calll down. Delete entire team, rampage in 3 seconds.

lol

Was pretty funny

Happens at 28 mins

MurkyZebra2417 · May 17, 2015

Just had an even game. Then enemy team fed a 6 player double-rampage with track to our Drow.

GG

aeolist · May 17, 2015

SilentRacoon said:
So what you are saying here is that this patch is what PPD actually had to say about 6.83 about it rewarding bad teams? These two last games I think the draft/skills factor earned both teams a victory more so than anything regarding 6.84 changes.

i think that's the case at the top level, though it still feels like a coin flip. with less skilled teams playing in the qualifier i'm worried it will just look random.

MurkyZebra2417 · May 17, 2015

aeolist said:
i think that's the case at the top level, though it still feels like a coin flip. with less skilled teams playing in the qualifier i'm worried it will just look random.

But SFZ vs PUB are currently in a 45 minute game which is still pretty even.

Artanisix · May 17, 2015

This 20 minute stomp

Gentle Rodriguez · May 17, 2015

Yeah guys we need more games like this zzzzz

bounchfx · May 17, 2015

so I guess eg wins

Kade · May 17, 2015

EG is pissed

ant_ · May 17, 2015

aeolist said:
i think we need some changes ASAP or we might see some really stupid qualifier results. this tournament it does seem like the top 3 teams are clearly the best, but when a bunch of t2/t3 pubstars go up against each other for a spot at TI i could easily see someone who doesn't deserve it getting first place.

not that qualifier teams have ever done well at TI anyway, but it's still a concern.

I couldn't disagree with you more. The teams you're watching now are top tier teams and know when to push an advantage and how to secure it even futher. They are good at minimizing mistakes, especially when in the lead. The laning stage is hyper important and the teams know how to capitalize on it.

The backlash on this patch is, like always, coming way too soon. Give it some time to breath, guys.

G.ZZZ · May 17, 2015

Artanisix said:
I was going to make an ihl joke but then i realized that GZZZ is permabanned from ihl

KingKong · May 17, 2015

Universe clock is so good

Icefrog please buff Timber though

liezryou · May 17, 2015

Anyone else notice how ridiculously one sided most 6.84 matches are?

Even in this series, each game was significantly in one team's favor throughout.

aeolist · May 17, 2015

liezryou said:
Anyone else notice how ridiculously one sided most 6.84 matches are?

Even in this series, each game was significantly in one team's favor throughout.

nah

Quesa · May 17, 2015

Drkirby said:
I don't agree about EG right now, they seem really sloppy.

Monochromaticx said:
VG vs EG

Secret vs VG - Best of 5

Red UFO said:
EG ain't beating VG

rhfb said:
VG going to do this again next match, they have the momentum

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manfestival · May 17, 2015

USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

Metroidvania · May 17, 2015

Universe playing out of his mind on that Clockwerk.

shira · May 17, 2015

G.ZZZ said:
Who will win the last coinflip stomp? I'm thrilled boys

EG won the coinflip :salt:

Quesa said:
.

Bugatti's were won boys

Raytow · May 17, 2015

G.ZZZ said:

What did you do this time? :babyrage:

KingKong · May 17, 2015

Still sticking with my theory that EGs first games against Secret were misdirection. No way does master drafter Peter Dager force drow and dark seer two games in a row otherwise

kvk1 · May 17, 2015

EG vs. Secret finals.

Acinixys · May 17, 2015

That Fwosh song

lmao

The greatest shit

LiQuid! · May 17, 2015

That Fwosh Summit promo so good :3

dafinezt · May 17, 2015

Lower bracket kings

Randdalf · May 17, 2015

Western dota final

bbd23 · May 17, 2015

#BleedBlue

HK-47 · May 17, 2015

So many snowballs you'd think global warming wasnt real!

close to the edge · May 17, 2015

K2Valor said:
I couldn't disagree with you more. The teams you're watching now are top tier teams and know when to push an advantage and how to secure it even futher. They are good at minimizing mistakes, especially when in the lead. The laning stage is hyper important and the teams know how to capitalize on it.

The backlash on this patch is, like always, coming way too soon. Give it some time to breath, guys.

I agree. Dota is always evolving. Even at Starladder, when people were whining about Troll/Sniper and the meta being so stale, the top picks were still changing as the tournament went along. Misery said yesterday that most games are so short right now because the teams don't really know how to draft for the new patch yet, so there's lots of outdrafts, which results in shorter, more one-sided games. Not sure if I agree 100%, but it definitely sounds reasonable.

This Kuro interview is awesome. I really enjoy hearing him talk about Dota (or anything, for that matter). Hard to imagine that he was a flamer when he was younger.

Raytow · May 17, 2015

LOL kuro's dad: your razor sucks.
kuro's dad confirmed the reason he is not a carry anymore :babyrage:

kvk1 · May 17, 2015

kuro's dad so BM

G.ZZZ · May 17, 2015

close to the edge said:
I agree. Dota is always evolving. Even at Starladder, when people were whining about Troll/Sniper and the meta being so stale, the top picks were still changing as the tournament went along. Misery said yesterday that most games are so short right now because the teams don't really know how to draft for the new patch yet, so there's lots of outdrafts, which results in shorter, more one-sided games. Not sure if I agree 100%, but it definitely sounds reasonable.

This Kuro interview is awesome. I really enjoy hearing him talk about Dota (or anything, for that matter). Hard to imagine that he was a flamer when he was younger.

Hard to imagine a 15 years old wasn't tbh. He got humbled many, many times.

close to the edge · May 17, 2015

G.ZZZ said:
Hard to imagine a 15 years old wasn't tbh. He got humbled many, many times.

That's true, he had a lot of teams go nowhere, disband really quickly. He was labelled a has-been and all that and with NaVi he finally found big success.

Sianos · May 17, 2015

New record for win streak, 12 games in a row!

Not really a huge fan conceptually of running around the map killing people instead of the zen discipline of efficient farming, but hyper aggression is working so I guess I can't really complain too much.

Dreams-Visions · May 17, 2015

#BLEEDBLUE

Cassius · May 17, 2015

God damn, this is hype.

I bet on EG, but I would be real happy with a Secret victory.

Both teams playing well.

Quesa · May 17, 2015

I got asked by two random people to play in a tournament. New scam or am I getting popular or something

Anbokr · May 17, 2015

G.ZZZ said:
What are you saying this is best patch ever

This isn't even the coemback gold, it's just that getting 3 kills early on give you like 3k gold it's stupid. You never saw 15k golds leads at 10-12 mins before, now it happened i think 2 or 3 times already only in this tournament. Icefraud plz staph what are u doin

EDIT: and to make matters worse, HG is still relatively absurdly strong so you have to see stomps dragged 15-20 mins more because of it zzz

Yeah, I mean the big irony is that the main two things (of the 6-7 big changes that bring the focus back to the early game and laning stage) driving this are:
1) Kill gold
2) Rich supports

People in the past have always whined about wanting kills to be the major focus and how poor and miserable playing a support can be. With the new AoE gold distribution (combined with the nerfs to creep gold and the buff to kill gold overall), supports on the winning team (aka the team racking up kills) get rich as fuck quicker than ever—even the 5th position—versus the supports on the losing team who have nothing. Then you're getting a mek, arcane, force, drums, etc... all these sustain and fight items WAY earlier. Can't have your cake and eat it too when it comes to dota I guess

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Imp the Dimp · May 17, 2015

Drow pick is auto loss

Artanisix · May 17, 2015

FUCK PPD

GO SECRET

slabrock · May 17, 2015

Quesa said:
I got asked by two random people to play in a tournament. New scam or am I getting popular or something

Thought I read about a scam like that last year. They send a link to their ts or something and it is infected

Haly · May 17, 2015

Secret about to show #bleedblue how to counter Visage with Drow.

Dahbomb · May 17, 2015

All I know is that DOTA is very hard to balance and I don't envy IF's job at all.

poppedcollar69 · May 17, 2015

ᵍᵒ ᵉᵍ

call_kotaku · May 17, 2015

http://www.twitch.tv/sing_sing

quality casters for final

G.ZZZ · May 17, 2015

Secret drafting those inhouse strat

Acinixys · May 17, 2015

Anbokr · May 17, 2015

G.ZZZ said:
Secret drafting those inhouse strat

gaf meta always ahead of pro meta

SilentRacoon · May 17, 2015

Imp the Dimp said:
Drow pick is auto loss

30+ games won on this patch alone, auto loss indeed.

mfaex · May 17, 2015

Clock and Viper are ruining the color schemes here.

Imp the Dimp · May 17, 2015

Love the Lancer pick. This incarnation of the hero is so fun to play and watch alike.

JC Sera · May 17, 2015

I can't remember the last time I've seen a defensive trilane

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