FlutterPuffs
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Navi can still win this yeah. It's still possible.
But come on, they're struggling. Not even against a top team. Their teamplay looks shaky.
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Navi can still win this yeah. It's still possible.
But come on, they're struggling. Not even against a top team. Their teamplay looks shaky.
4asc has played the best of any non-china qualifier team doe
FlutterPuffs
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I'm not saying they're shit.
I'm saying Na'Vi's shit.
4asc has quality yes, but I'm comparing to where Na'Vi was, a top 3 team in Europe last year to where they are now.
Monochromaticx
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IMO gyro should have gone BKB and spidermama should have had something like AC + Deso instead of Mjolnir to help push high ground
Shuggananas
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yeah and iG won TI2 and now they're struggling wow !
Teams can't stay at the top forever, duh
oh and navi was a top team in the beginning of 2014, not after
Teams can't stay at the top forever, duh
oh and navi was a top team in the beginning of 2014, not after
shira
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finnstack has been super stable, they've been together since TI4, with Nemphy replacing Jerax in January
shouldnt have picked pudge
and when they already pick pudge, they should have gotten bkb on gyro and pipe if they actually wanted to win imo
Yeah, but at least they're not mouz. Kappa
and when they already pick pudge, they should have gotten bkb on gyro and pipe if they actually wanted to win imo
Yeah, but at least they're not mouz. Kappa
shira
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FlutterPuffs
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SilentRacoon
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Earthshaker would have helped them so much, enchantress did nothing for them.
Pudge wasn't the greatest pick against their lineup either.
Pudge wasn't the greatest pick against their lineup either.
Shuggananas
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i have no idea what your point is but it has to be stupid, I don't even
Monochromaticx
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They might take a game off against them, doubt they can beat them.
Shuggananas
Banned
"navi can't beat a team that can't beat a top3 team so they're shit"
it literally makes no sense
yeah navi isn't as strong as it has been for 3+ years, shit happens
sleverfunk
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Fuck twitch and my isp.
It lags starting 10 am to 12 midnight.
It lags starting 10 am to 12 midnight.
shira
Member
Fuck twitch and my isp.
It lags starting 10 am to 12 midnight.
Watch in-game if you can? Is free
Shuggananas
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Its getting pretty huge, just in terms of the money involved
TI5 1st place gets AT LEAST 5 million
Here are some comparisons
1st place Tour de France - $500 000
1st place US Golf Open - $1.1 million
1st place Wimbledon - $1.7
Video games
divide this by 5+ (manager, structure) then take taxes
Even if the actual total is only 4 - 500K thats still a stupid amount of money
sleverfunk
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Yeah but I don't really like to keep tabbing in and out to chat with my gf.
Also there's no twitch chat.
Shuggananas
Banned
all good then
shira
Member
Yeah but I don't really like to keep tabbing in and out to chat with my gf.
Also there's no twitch chat.
Its getting pretty huge, just in terms of the money involved
TI5 1st place gets AT LEAST 5 million
Here are some comparisons
1st place Tour de France - $500 000
1st place US Golf Open - $1.1 million
1st place Wimbledon - $1.7
Video games
1. You don't know what EG/GGA/Twitch/Amazon's contract entails. I'm pretty sure they get a nice cut of that cheese
2. IRL sports have IRL sponsors that pay most of their salary, except for boxing.
>Tiger Woods ranks No. 6 with earnings of $61.2 million including $55 million from endorsements, appearances and his golf course design business
That's the Bugatti money
Monochromaticx
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Yeah but I don't really like to keep tabbing in and out to chat with my gf.
Also there's no twitch chat.
noobfromua is streaming it on YT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZcHUlQsgCs
FlutterPuffs
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Do you realise I'm not even disparaging 4ASC?
What I posted, up there is how Na'Vi, who once was top 3 in Dota is now struggling in qualifiers.
I was asking about 4ASC because OBVIOUSLY Shira knows how they are better than me, so I'm just asking for god's sake.
Thank you, that's what I thought as well. I dont mind being wrong about it though so we'll see during TI5.
The Buggati money after you spend multiple decades honing your craft and creating a marketable image!
E-sports not only equalizing across race, but also across time.
FlutterPuffs
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I don't know what Shuggananas was so defensive about, but Na'Vi was my top pick in Ti2 & TI3.
Hell I even have their mousepad, so I'm a little sad to see how much they've fallen.
Hell I even have their mousepad, so I'm a little sad to see how much they've fallen.
Shuggananas
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my point is they've been pretty bad since spring 2014, don't know why you seem surprised today only that they can't beat other teams of their level
FlutterPuffs
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Surprised? I'm just commenting about Na'Vi. Also last year, while they were struggling they still managed to get an invite to TI4, and managed to finish in the top 5 during the group stages.
This year I won't even be surprised if they don't qualify, which is what lead me to comment on it in the first place. Sorry if that comment offended you.
EDIT: Christ, can't you talk about teams anymore? Is there a Dota 2 thread where people who doesn't follow it as much as they used to comment in then.
Shuggananas
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They got invited to TI4 because they were grand finalists at TI3 and almost won it (actually threw it in 2 games including game 5), also they dominated the scene from september 2013 to jan/feb 2014, so yeah they deserved it
TI4 they placed not great (7-8 ? or 5-6 can't remember), and they've done nothing since then
TI4 they placed not great (7-8 ? or 5-6 can't remember), and they've done nothing since then
i've been a fan of hanni since his online kingdom days in HoN but he simply isn't cut out for casting/hosting. his speech doesn't have any flow, he goes on and on for way too long, is always negative/whiny and often makes grammatical mistakes. i feel stressed listening to him, his vibe is not suitable for this kind of work.
FlutterPuffs
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Mate, I agree with you.
I'm just talking in the point of view of a fan who used to believe that they could pull victories out of their ass, TI3 was partly amazing (for me) because how Na'Vi managed in all odds get into the Grand Finals.
That Pudge/Chen strat for example, that pretty much won them that leg.
Try not to get so defensive when people comment about teams so much. I was just reminiscing, not freaking out or surprised like I just got back to the game after 2 years living in a cave.
shira
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MurkyZebra2417
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I think Na'Vi are a positive surprise this Qualifier, compared to how they played since TI4.
They will probably (hopefully) get trough, but will drop out of TI Main Event very fast.
They will probably (hopefully) get trough, but will drop out of TI Main Event very fast.
FlutterPuffs
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Who are the favorites to enter through qualifiers/wildcard? In all 4 regions I mean.
Shuggananas
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europe = china > SEA = USA imo
FlutterPuffs
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I have absolutely no idea which US teams are good at the moment.
Regional qualifiers are definitely a good idea in the meantime though.
Add me on steam. I'll take you under my wing.
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