Monochromaticx
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the only thing that might be OP on leshrac is the octarine core heal.
He is still squishy as hell otherwise.
Actually the sven war cry + lesh is a nice combo that I wasn't thinking of. That armor really helps Lesh go ham.
Wok
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I cannot play WR. I don't understand the hero.
I guess it will be as for Clockwerk: it used to be a disaster whenever I chose this hero, yet one day, it clicked for me: I understand the farming and ganking patterns, and I can have fun playing Clock.
Heavy's Sandvich
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I can swap, I dont really care for mine. I have most.
Heavy's Sandvich
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US east.
Shuggananas
Banned
please excuse secret they have some huge jetlag
US East, EG still has an agreement with Dotapit that all their games are played on USE.
Monochromaticx
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so the E spam from the start that slows damages and hits targets in a million miles is a-ok? and that fantastic aoe stun is negligible?
come on man
lol what? such babies but to be expected
Where was this EG at the Summit finals?
they were in USE
too bad Secret also played in USE in that Lan
Shuggananas
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I'm pretty sure it was printhuh
Split earth has been the same for years, and I dunno if I'd call a stun with one of the worst spell animations in the game 'fantastic'.
The lightning storm buffs make him a much stronger laner as a core, but you need huge mana pool to support the spam. He is still a shit tier support.
If he was strong as a support and a core, then you could argue he's OP, but he's really only strong when he gets a huge farm advantage early.
Heavy's Sandvich
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iamblades pls
lightning is too good in lane, horsey needs a little sit down treatment.
lightning is too good in lane, horsey needs a little sit down treatment.
Part of the problem is that there aren't many heroes who beat in him lane atm, and he farms the jungle quickly at level 6. Bottle/soul ring is more than enough mana for the lane.
Monochromaticx
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with lighting you have all the time you need to land the stun
Shuggananas
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some heroes are very strong in lane, lesh isn't the first. nobody cries cause qop or viper are mid dominators too. if you shut down lesh in lane he can have very low impact later because of how squishy he is without proper farm
qop is def getting nerfs and nobody cries about viper because he falls off.
Shorty11857
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The funny thing about the lightning storm changes is that the one that matters(the CD reduction) was a 6.80 change, and people are just now getting around to recognizing how strong it is.
The .25 sec extra slow on storm is completely inconsequential. The extra 100 cast range is nice to have, but I don't think that is what made the spell useful all of a sudden.
The .25 sec extra slow on storm is completely inconsequential. The extra 100 cast range is nice to have, but I don't think that is what made the spell useful all of a sudden.
Glass Shark
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everyone argues about whether Lesh is OP and Undying is just sitting here with 60% winrate but no one cares
no 0.3 cast time on gyro is inconsequential, barrage has always been strong
The big advantage of the no cast time for Gyro is using barrage doesn't cancel his attack animation now.
Except it is still a difficult stun to land, even with the storm slow.
Shit pro players regularly miss the stun with a eul's setup.
Cast time is completely different from slow duration, there are huge advantages to not having to stop moving to cast.
Shuggananas
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everyone argues about whether Lesh is OP and Undying is just sitting here with 60% winrate but no one cares
but i keep losing muh mid in pubs because lesh too stronk
Gentle Rodriguez
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This is the worst way to complain, either state your problem or stfu. This is just
yeah, i'm just saying. Just cause its a small number tweak, doesn't make it useless
but i keep losing muh mid in pubs because lesh too stronk
and just like sniper, that means he'll get nerfed
I call BS
He can cast lightning like 5 times in lane at level 1, forcing you to back away from the wave giving him free farm
He does need a nerf, even if its only -2 INT at level 1 or something
Cyborgmatt
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Dota Pit rules allow EG to play all three matches on US East.
He is upset because game two is mirrored from game one so we get Radiant FP now like they had in game one.
Gentle Rodriguez
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Hey look it's another Naga being disgusting
I actually enjoy watching a good Naga
Or you could not pick a psuedo melee mid to go against a leshrac like TA.
Plenty of longer ranged mids can lane against a leshrac without being run out of the lane instantly.
Bring back pugna mid and shit on some FOTM leshrac. Just gank leshrac relentlessly from level 1, because he naturally pushes the lane and has to get runs to sustain his spam.
There are options to out lane a leshrac.
why even bother showing up? EG can play with themselves they will finally win something thenDota Pit rules allow EG to play all three matches on US East.
The only hero who can safely 1v1 Lesh mid is Lina because of her retarded long attack range
Almost every other mid gets shit on
Shuggananas
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why even bother showing up? EG can play with themselves they will finally win something then
the DAC salt is real
All of these changes were big. 6.80 Leshrac wasn't nearly as strong as 6.84 Leshrac.
You forget sniper (the sniper nerf might actually the biggest buff to leshrac
).I think windranger mid is viable as well. QoP can outlane a leshrac too.
Pugna just dumps all over a mid leshrac. Viper with high early levels of corrosive skin does well.
Also early magic stick really helps, even in an unfavorable matchup.
Leshrac is not some unstoppable laning monster.
Lactose_Intolerant
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lumi is always wrong
Shuggananas
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GET FUCKED NAGA PICKERS I FUCKING HATE YOU
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