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[MustacheBandit_]

Is Surrender/Concede in yet?

I haven't played it because of the bugs and lack of a surrender...

ugh i wish there was a surrender button. just played a match and my whole team quit and it was 2 vs. 5. Wasn't even slightly fun...wish I could have hit the concede button.

 

[Card Boy]

I poked around the Dota 2 Wiki and I don't quite understand what this game is about. It looks like an RTS, but you're actively controlling a handful of "heroes" or "villains" instead of an army? Are the characters in the OP the only units in the game, or are there other generic units and these characters act like the Jedi or Sith in Star Wars Battlefront? I'm just shooting in the dark here.

Watch this video

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/goodgame/stories/s2658236.htm

Link is at the bottom of the screen. Its 2 years old but it explains what these DOTA games are all about

This is the link to click on if you cant find it. (on the bottom)

 

[HK-47]

I poked around the Dota 2 Wiki and I don't quite understand what this game is about. It looks like an RTS, but you're actively controlling a handful of "heroes" or "villains" instead of an army? Are the characters in the OP the only units in the game, or are there other generic units and these characters act like the Jedi or Sith in Star Wars Battlefront? I'm just shooting in the dark here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dota_2

 

[Neki]

me and uchip played the stupidest game ever

constant buy backs from a tinker, sniper and furion who were constantly tping and pushing all the lanes

only won because of one huge push

 

[Anbokr]

never play doombringer again

have you been playing doom recently kappy...?

 

[ksan]

ugh i wish there was a surrender button. just played a match and my whole team quit and it was 2 vs. 5. Wasn't even slightly fun...wish I could have hit the concede button.

If someone in the game has "abandoned"; you can leave the game and the only thing that you will get is a loss in your stats.

 

[Phandy]

If someone in the game has "abandoned"; you can leave the game and the only thing that you will get is a loss in your stats.

I just played a game where 2 people quit from my team when we were clearly going to win. I shouldn't get a loss for shit like that.

The Sven on the ENEMY team quits. Then the razor and skeleton king on my team decides they can use that as excuse to bail out. Not noticing that we had 3 strong carries and they only had 1. And we just started winning teamfights too.
People are just so dumb.

 

[Ikuu]

Maybe they cared more about playing a 5v5 than winning.

 

[bzm]

Maybe they cared more about playing a 5v5 than winning.

to be fair 5v4 isnt particularly fun. maybe they each wanted to even it out but didnt know the other did and ended up fucking you over?

 

[sfedai0]

I love playing 5v4, especially if Im on the uneven side.

 

[Kapura]

I love playing 5v4, especially if Im on the uneven side.

neither side is even with the other.

 

[Haly]

He clearly means on the team of 5, since 4 is even.

 

[Drkirby]

Why are you able to disassemble Shiva's Guard? Its not like you can make it by mistake, its a recipe item.

 

[Neki]

Why are you able to disassemble Shiva's Guard? Its not like you can make it by mistake, its a recipe item.

disable an early shiva's guard into a assault cuirass and sheep stick?

 

[Kapura]

Why are you able to disassemble Shiva's Guard? Its not like you can make it by mistake, its a recipe item.

take the 2700g item to make a sheepstick. IIRC you can disassemble manta and mjolnir as well, useful for getting the ultimate orb and hyperstone, respectively.

 

[Drkirby]

I, uh, guess. But there are tons of items that would benefit from being able to disassemble them later game, Shiva just seems random.

Edit: Ah, thats right, those other big items can be taken apart too. I do wish there were more items you could take apart, would allow you to change up your build easier.

 

[crimsonheadGCN]

SomethingAwful made "A Beginner's Guide to Dota 2"

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/dota-guide-valve.php

 

[Spookie]

"My first round of DOTA 2 felt like starting a breezy game of checkers, then realizing halfway through that I was playing interdimensional Star Trek chess against opponents that were waiting for the perfect moment to reveal that the drink I ingested ten minutes earlier had been poisoned."

Golden.

 

[kenta]

SomethingAwful made "A Beginner's Guide to Dota 2"

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/dota-guide-valve.php

Oh good, I'm not the only one. I wonder what a game with 10 complete newbies would look like

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

Can anyone tell me why I was unable to disassemble my Vanguard during a game the other day? I thought you could disassemble any item as long as it doesn't require a recipe.

 

[Nirolak]

Can anyone tell me why I was unable to disassemble my Vanguard during a game the other day? I thought you could disassemble any item as long as it doesn't require a recipe.

Only if they say "Can be disassembled." here: http://www.playdota.com/items

 

[Kapura]

I, uh, guess. But there are tons of items that would benefit from being able to disassemble them later game, Shiva just seems random.

Edit: Ah, thats right, those other big items can be taken apart too. I do wish there were more items you could take apart, would allow you to change up your build easier.

That would completely remove much of opportunity cost for building items. if you can canibalise 80% of it and build something else, it doesn't matter what you build early.

 

[Hylian7]

Only if they say "Can be disassembled." here: http://www.playdota.com/items

This is the first time I ever heard of an item being able to be disassembled. How do I disassemble things?

 

[Technosteve]

i need a guide for so you have played 20 hours of dota 2

 

[x3r0123]

This is the first time I ever heard of an item being able to be disassembled. How do I disassemble things?

right click on the item and it will show if there is an option for disassemble. Disassembled items items are dropped to the ground

 

[Artanisix]

pw neogaf for ih

and kag i'm spectating your game so i can talk mad shit

 

[Drkirby]

That would completely remove much of opportunity cost for building items. if you can canibalise 80% of it and build something else, it doesn't matter what you build early.

Which is sort of why I don't like why those 3 recipe items can be taken apart. But I guess its not my choice.

 

[LoftyTheMetroid]

SomethingAwful made "A Beginner's Guide to Dota 2"

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/dota-guide-valve.php

While (somewhat of) an exaggeration, that "guide" really highlights what I think is going to be the most interesting challenge facing Valve that nobody is talking about: How can Valve engineer Dota 2 to overcome the immense skill and knowledge barrier for the majority of new players?

In my opinion, this is really what is going to define Dota 2 as a product that moves the genre forward, moreso than any other feature. Valve talked about it in the past, but I don't really think we've seen much progress in that regard. (To be fair, though, at this point in the beta those sorts of features aren't really a priority. I am just interested in seeing if they'll ever be addressed in the future.)

As far as I can tell, as it stands, Dota 2 is perhaps the most perfect realization of the original Dota. I think it will do just fine selling itself to the previously established Dota audience. I also think it will act as a vehicle to popularize Steam in the east. Beyond those two accomplishments, I'm questioning how Valve intends to expand the audience beyond anything LoL could do while also maintaining the mechanics, balance, and integrity of the original Dota gameplay.

(Or, perhaps Valve will decide they're okay with just becoming the de facto Dota game within the established Dota audience. And that's perfectly fine.)

 

[iamblades]

Just got done playing my first match.

Went 7/5/7 as Mirana, was pretty fun. Venomancer and Prophet should never be allowed on the same team. We were getting our shit pushed in all game long.

Was still super fun though.

Beautiful game and it still runs better than HoN on my machine.

 

[Drkirby]

I think one thing that would help ease new people a lot is if Valve can do a really good job match making. Put new players with new player, so they hopefully won't get yelled at too much. Also, some good tutorials. I don't think they will be playing around with the core game play at all.

 

[Nirolak]

I think one thing that would help ease new people a lot is if Valve can do a really good job match making. Put new players with new player, so they hopefully won't get yelled at too much. Also, some good tutorials. I don't think they will be playing around with the core game play at all.

I think the lack of a tutorial is by far their biggest problem right now.

The way the game is set up is very counter-intuitive.

 

[la_briola]

gg (lina/raidboss here)

 

[Sober]

I think the lack of a tutorial is by far their biggest problem right now.

The way the game is set up is very counter-intuitive.

A tutorial would help or an easy way to access guides from the in-game interface. I had to have my little brother (who has played way more dota than me in the past 2 or so years) help me along because I had become so unfamiliar with the game I didn't know what to buy. How to play I was okay but the item shop is overwhelming as hell at times, even if I do remember maybe 40% of the items.

 

[Drkirby]

I'm hoping they do some per character tutorials also, and if you want to get really crazy, item tutorials. Maybe even some in depth tutorials on mechanics.

 

[Technosteve]

I think all that stuff is getting added at the end, do you think they are doing a rolling beta instead of a all

 

[Tenck]

I think the lack of a tutorial is by far their biggest problem right now.

The way the game is set up is very counter-intuitive.

Seriously. This should be their biggest concern now.

When I started Dota 2, I had limited knowledge about it since I played Dota for a few weeks with my friends. Back then I didn't really bother to learn much of it, so I just played for the sake of playing, and my friends and I did horribly and lived with it.

Dota is quite harsh with the learning curve, and when you play Dota for the first time, you have so much stuff to go through. It's a little overwhelming to think that you need to read Wikis, guides, and tutorials just to get a grasp of what Dota is.

It'd help so many new players if Valve could put up a very decent tutorial section to help people out that are overwhelmed with how much they have to read up on.

 

[Exuro]

I'm hoping they do some per character tutorials also, and if you want to get really crazy, item tutorials. Maybe even some in depth tutorials on mechanics.

I'm pretty sure someone found files about tutorials like pudge hooking a while back. I'll be surprised if Valve isn't planning extensive tutorials like this.

 

[Neki]

tutorials are cool and all, but dota is a game where you need to get messy before you actually start learning how to play. that's something a tutorial can't replicate.

 

[LoftyTheMetroid]

I agree with the tutorials/guides bit. With Dota 2, I think Valve should make players question why they ever had to have Playdota/Mobafire/whatever minimized on a browser while playing. That sort of information and functionality should be seamlessly integrated into the interface and gameplay.

A step beyond that would be context sensitive streamlining. For example, if a player is playing against Rikimaru, the item shop might highlight items needed to expose invisibile players. Character-specific (like the Pudge one) and scenario tutorials would be nice, too. (Although, it almost makes me wonder if the sheer amount of tutorials needed to communicate all of the immense data and information might, in itself, become yet another barrier for new players...)

But even all that is just the bare minimum, IMO. Dota has, imo, one of the greatest barriers to new players, and I think this is really a golden opportunity for Valve to innovate not only in the Dota space, but in the field of intelligent communication and learning, or, at least as it pertains to games.

Stuff like coaching in TF2 is the kind of advancement I'm talking about, but it's going to have to be even greater and forward-thinking to work in Dota. It's an enormous challenge, and one that'll be interesting to observe Valve tackle regardless of whether one is even interested in playing Dota at all.

 

[Artanisix]

gg (lina/raidboss here)

gg

 

[Technosteve]

happy new year dota gaf

 

[Tenck]

tutorials are cool and all, but dota is a game where you need to get messy before you actually start learning how to play. that's something a tutorial can't replicate.

Half the time you can't get messy because you're fighting with your team about how much you suck and should quit. It's better to go in prepared than face a bunch of elitist jerks who have nothing better to do than waste your time.

 

[Togglesworlh]

tutorials are cool and all, but dota is a game where you need to get messy before you actually start learning how to play. that's something a tutorial can't replicate.

"Getting messy" is exponentiated by lack of knowledge. That's something a tutorial can alleviate...

 

[Guesong]

DoTA tutorial would basically have to last like, at least 2 hours. Nobody would want that.

Best thing they could do is have an in-game, indepth Wiki.

 

[Nirolak]

DoTA tutorial would basically have to last like, at least 2 hours. Nobody would want that.

Best thing they could do is have an in-game, indepth Wiki.

You don't make it one giant tutorial, but a series of selectable options.

We've seen part of this actually:

"DOTA_ReactiveHintTitle_TowerDamage" "Damage from Towers"
"DOTA_ReactiveHintBody_TowerDamage" "Towers do A LOT of damage - if you take even a few hits from them you might need to return to the fountain and heal. It's better to fight near the tower only when your creeps are already attacking it."

"DOTA_ReactiveHintTitle_Death" "Death"
"DOTA_ReactiveHintBody_Death" "When you die you will respawn at your fountain. The time to respawn gets higher as you level so it's imperative that you try to NEVER DIE. If you are low on health then return to the fountain to heal."

"DOTA_Tutorial_TaskCompleted" "Completed!"

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_WelcomeToDota" "Basic Game Concepts and Controls Tutorial"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_WelcomeToDota" "This tutorial will introduce you to the world of Dota and show you how to control your hero."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_MaidenIntro" "Your Hero"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_MaidenIntro" "You will be playing this match as Shadow Shaman, a master of voodoo magic. You are on The Radiant team, the enemy team is called The Dire."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_MovingYourCharacter" "Moving your Character"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_MovingYourCharacter" "You can move your character by right-clicking where you want to go. Your team fountain is directly below you."

"DOTA_TutorialTask_MoveToFountain" "Move to your fountain (right-click)."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_FountainIntro" "The Fountain"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_FountainIntro" "The fountain can quickly replenish your health and mana. It also revives you if you die in combat. Let's look at some other important buildings around."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_CameraIntro" "Your view"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_CameraIntro" "You can scroll your view by moving the mouse to the edge of the screen. Let's look to the northeast at your team's Ancient."

"DOTA_TutorialTask_MoveToAncient" "Move VIEW to ancient (mouse the screen edge)"

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_AncientIntro" "The Ancient"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_AncientIntro" "The Ancient is your team's most important building - if it's destroyed then your team loses. You must destroy The Dire team's Ancient to win the game."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_ViewHeroIntro" "Return to your Hero"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_ViewHeroIntro" "You can snap your view back to your hero by clicking your portrait or double tapping F1. Do that now to return your view to your hero."

"DOTA_TutorialTask_ViewToHero" "Move your view back (click your portrait)"

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_MapIntro" "The Mini-map"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_MapIntro" "There is a mini-map on the lower left corner of your screen. Your base (in green) is in the bottom left corner and the enemy base (in red) is in the top right."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_LaneIntro" "Lanes of Attack"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_LaneIntro" "There are three main lanes towards the enemy base. Let's move to the top one."

"DOTA_TutorialTask_MoveToTopLane" "Move your hero to the top lane."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_BarracksIntro" "Barracks"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_BarracksIntro" "Each lane has two barracks where your team's foot soldiers, known as creeps, spawn at regular intervals. Creeps move to the enemy base and attack enemy units and buildings in their path -- you cannot control them!"

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_LaningIntro" "The battle begins!"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_LaningIntro" "A wave of Radiant creeps is about to spawn. Follow them into combat to provide ranged support. Try not to get hit - you are too important to take damage! When a wave of creeps dies, it's wise to back off to regroup with the next creep wave."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_FindingYourHero" "Finding Your Hero"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_FindingYourHero" "If you lose track of your hero, you can double-tap F1 or click on your hero's portrait to center the camera on it."

"DOTA_TutorialTask_FollowCreeps" "Follow your creeps to the front line."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_CombatIntro" "Combat"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_CombatIntro" "There is combat up ahead. Remember to be careful and avoid taking damage."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_AttackingIntro" "Attacking"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_AttackingIntro" "You can attack enemy units by right-clicking them (you only need to right-click them once)."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_BountiesIntro" "Bounties"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_BountiesIntro" "When you get the killing blow on a unit or structure you get a bounty. Attack enemy units that are low on health and try to get the bounty."

"DOTA_TutorialTask_LastHitCreeps" "Earn bounties from killing blows %s1/%s2"

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_SpendGold" "Spending Gold"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_SpendGold" "Let's return to the base to spend your hard-earned gold. Right-click on your team's base in the bottom left of the mini-map to move there."

"DOTA_TutorialTask_ReturnToShop" "Return to the base to shop."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_BuyFromShop" "Spending Gold: the Shop"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_BuyFromShop" "You can use the gold you earn to buy items from the shop."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_BuyFromShop2" "Buying From the Shop"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_BuyFromShop2" "Left-click on the shop to view the items for sale. Double-click on the Town Portal Scroll and the Blades of Attack to buy them."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_CloseShop" "Closing the Shop"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_CloseShop" "To close the shop, you can left-click the X at the top left, left-click anywhere outside the shop menu, or press the button near your inventory. The shop also automatically closes when you walk out of its purchase area."

"DOTA_TutorialTask_BuyTPScroll" "Buy two items from the shop."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_TeleportIntro" "Items Types"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_TeleportIntro" "Your Blades of Attack provide a passive damage bonus, whereas the Town Portal Scroll must be activated. Using a Town Portal Scroll allows you to teleport to any of your team's buildings. This is critical to save precious time."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_UseItemIntro" "Using the Town Portal Scroll to Teleport"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_UseItemIntro" "To use the Town Portal Scroll, left-click it then left-click your desired destination in the mini-map. Teleport is a channeling spell, so be careful not to interrupt it by giving your hero another command while you cast it."

"DOTA_TutorialTask_UseTPScroll" "Use your Town Portal Scroll to teleport."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_StayInLane" "Staying in Lane"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_StayInLane" "Since you earn experience and gold from defeating enemy units it's important to spend time in the lane at the beginning of the game. Return to your lane to get back into combat."

"DOTA_TutorialTask_BackToCombat" "Return to your lane."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_ExpIntro" "Gaining Experience"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_ExpIntro" "When an enemy unit dies all nearby heroes on your team share the experience. Try to get enough experience to gain a level."

"DOTA_TutorialTask_GetALevel" "Gain a level by helping to kill enemy units."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_LevelIntro" "Gaining Levels"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_LevelIntro" "When you gain a level you earn a point to spend on an ability."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_AbilityIntro" "Spending Ability Points"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_AbilityIntro" "You can see what each ability does by hovering the mouse over its icon. Spend points to earn levels in abilities by clicking on the yellow bar beneath their icon. Level up your Ether Shock ability."

"DOTA_TutorialTask_BuyAbility" "Spend an ability point to learn Ether Shock."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_CastIntro" "Using Abilities"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_CastIntro" "The Ether Shock ability deals magical damage. It costs you mana every time you use it. Click the ability icon then left-click where you'd like to cast it."

"DOTA_TutorialTask_CastSpell" "Cast your Ether Shock ability."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_RazorIntro" "Razor"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_RazorIntro" "The enemy hero Razor has joined the battle for the Dire team. He is a master of lightning magic and has the powerful Plasma Field ability. He is going to attack along the top lane."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_NewItems" "New Items"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_NewItems" "You have been given a few items to help you in battle. You have tangos with an ABILITY to eat a tree to gain health. You also have a perseverance that PASSIVELY increases your regeneration."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_AttackTower" "Attacking Towers"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_AttackTower" "Towers have powerful attacks and a lot of hitpoints. Attack with your creeps and try to destroy the tower to complete this tutorial! Retreat if your creeps die and try to keep your health up!"

"DOTA_TutorialTask_KillTower" "Destroy the enemy tower."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_WinningIntro" "You Win!"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_WinningIntro" "Congratulations on completing the Basic Game Concepts and Controls tutorial! The next tutorial will run you through a full game - you even get to pick your hero!"

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// MIDONLY
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"DOTA_TutorialTitle_ChooseYourHero" "Choosing your hero"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_ChooseYourHero" "Shadow Shaman is a great hero to learn with. He has a ranged attack so you can attack safely from the back ranks. His Serpent Wards ability is especially good for destroying towers. You can complete this tutorial with any hero, though."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_PrepareForBattle" "Preparing for Battle"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_PrepareForBattle" "When you spawn into a game you have one ability point and 603 gold to buy items. Spend the point to learn an ability. For this lesson we have enabled auto-buy so you don't need to worry about the store."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_AutoBuyIntro" "Auto-Buy"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_AutoBuyIntro" "Auto-buy will purchase items appropriate for your character. You will auto pick up your items when you return to the fountain. If you get a message to go to the secret shop check the minimap for the location. Head out when ready."

"DOTA_TutorialTask_MoveWhenReady" "Move out when you're ready."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_SpawningBots" "Allies and Enemies"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_SpawningBots" "For this lesson you will be playing against two computer-controlled enemies and you will have one computer player on your team. Try to push in the middle lane to the Dire base and kill their Ancient."

"DOTA_TutorialTask_DefeatAncient" "Defeat the Dire team's Ancient."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_DefeatEnemyAncient" "Attacking the Enemy"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_DefeatEnemyAncient" "The enemy defenses are strong and you will need to attack with multiple waves of creeps to bring down each tower. Return to your base when your health is low or when you wish to buy new items."

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// hook training
////////////////////////////////////////

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_Train_Pudge" "Pudge Training"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_Train_Pudge" "Learn to play Pudge, dawg. Kill some bots in the bottom lane."

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_Pudge_Goal" "Kill some heroes!"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_Pudge_Goal" "Gank the two enemy heroes in the bottom lane. Try to get 5 hero kills without dying more than 3 times."

////////////////////////////////////////
// Last Hit / Deny Training
////////////////////////////////////////

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_LastHit" "Last Hit / Deny Practice"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_LastHit" "Try to get as many last hits and denies as possible in the time limit. Your score is a combination of last hits, denies, and how much damage you take!"

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_RoundOne" "Round One - Sniper"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_RoundOne" "Sniper has a ranged attack with no projectile, so the hit occurs very quickly!"
"DOTA_TutorialTask_Sniper" "Last hit as Sniper!"

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_RoundTwo" "Round Two - Anti-Mage"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_RoundTwo" "Anti-Mage has a very quick attack animation and fast attack rate - melee heroes are generally easier to last hit with."
"DOTA_TutorialTask_Antimage" "Last hit as Anti-Mage!"

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_RoundThree" "Round Three - Mirana"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_RoundThree" "Mirana has an average attack animation and projectile speed, making her of moderate difficulty."
"DOTA_TutorialTask_Mirana" "Last hit as Mirana!"

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_RoundFour" "Round Four - Crystal Maiden"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_RoundFour" "Crystal Maiden's animation has a wind-up time and a slow moving projectile, making it difficult to predict when the hit will occur, making her difficult to last hit with."
"DOTA_TutorialTask_CrystalMaiden" "Last hit as Crystal Maiden!"

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_RoundFive" "Round Five - Shadow Fiend"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_RoundFive" "Shadow Fiend is great at farming with his good attack animation, high damage, and ability Shadowraze - see how quickly you can farm this lane!"
"DOTA_TutorialTask_ShadowFiend" "Farm as fast as you can!"

"DOTA_TutorialTitle_LastHitEnd" "Game Over!"
"DOTA_TutorialBody_LastHitEnd" "Your score: "

 

[Sober]

I could see Last hit/deny training being extended to all heroes. It's a good start but a lot is still missing.

 

[Nirolak]

I could see Last hit/deny training being extended to all heroes. It's a good start but a lot is still missing.

I imagine they have a lot more internally that hasn't went out into the client.

I do imagine these tutorials have priority though. They really need some up before the impending open beta.

Spoiler

Pudge training is clearly being fast tracked for Pudge Wars. >_>

 

[QisTopTier]

lol this game was hilarious.

 

[Togglesworlh]

DoTA tutorial would basically have to last like, at least 2 hours. Nobody would want that.

Best thing they could do is have an in-game, indepth Wiki.

If SC2 can do it, Dota 2 can do it.

I can't believe there are people downplaying the importance of tutorials for this game. There's nothing more important for the genre than easing the new players into it, and tutorials are only going to help.

 

[Tenck]

If SC2 can do it, Dota 2 can do it.

I can't believe there are people downplaying the importance of tutorials for this game. There's nothing more important for the genre than easing the new players into it, and tutorials are only going to help.

Yeah, I have no idea why some people still don't want some really in depth tutorial system.

There are people who are looking forward to Dota 2 because Valve took over it, and some of those people never played Dota before.

There's still a lot of things I'd like to learn, and can't wait to try out other heroes when the tutorial system is put into place.

On a side note, Dota 2 is the first game I've played in 2012, and I just had a great match with Riki. Feels good :3