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Dota 2 Beta Thread: [Brewmaster]
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I H8 Memes
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Anybody interested in a game right now?
civilstrife
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I'm an idiot. How do I chat to all?
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Cydonian__Knight
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Just played and won my first public game! I played Zeus and went 4-4-10. I gotta work on positioning with him, it's tough to be in the right place during team fights. What items would you guys recommend on him mid game?
Curse your self Neki.
Note to self: Don't level any skill till you actually get in lane.
Freakinchair
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Nope.
Welp
Would only be convenient, in my opinion, if you had your skills bound to the keys closest to them, and even then that seem uncomfortable.
I have to say that I have found MOBA communities to be, by and large, among the worst I've encountered in any genre. This is not specific to DOTA 2 (though it is part of the problem) and it's not indicative of every person I've encountered, but it is a major problem facing this genre.
I understand that matches take about an hour, some people care about W/L, and it's frustrating to be teamed up with newbies, but there is a right and wrong way to handle it. There are only so many matches versus the AI you can play before needing help going deeper into strategy. Telling people to uninstall the game and calling them "retard" is not helping anyone.
It's the internet, so I cannot really be surprised. And I feel like the fundamental game design could lessen the reliance on others a bit more, but man it's infuriating to people who want to jump in and learn a new game.
I understand that matches take about an hour, some people care about W/L, and it's frustrating to be teamed up with newbies, but there is a right and wrong way to handle it. There are only so many matches versus the AI you can play before needing help going deeper into strategy. Telling people to uninstall the game and calling them "retard" is not helping anyone.
It's the internet, so I cannot really be surprised. And I feel like the fundamental game design could lessen the reliance on others a bit more, but man it's infuriating to people who want to jump in and learn a new game.
Aghanims sceptre is good, and from there you can build bloodstone, sheepstick or refresher orb, depending on how well you're kill stealing and how well the game is going. But by aghanims you're raining down 600 pre mitigation damage to everyone in a team fight, without a pipe you're still gonna be eating away at their hp.
In the wc3 dota, you could turn on "easy mode" at the start of the game. Then everyone would get more xp from creeps and 2 gold/sec instead of 1 (if I remember right). But this didn't really make it easier for new players, it just made carrys more OP. But maybe they could put in easy mode in dota 2 as a non-matchmaking mode, but make it even better for new players instead of just for lazy players.
Dreams-Visions
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you will find none who disagree with you.
as a new guy who's mostly come from TF2 and had never played a Moba game for more than a few hours lifetime, it's quite the off-putting social experience...but a helluva game in spite of it. I think that even if you're teamed up with n00bs who are feeding or aren't helpful, you can shift your mindset from #winning to #learning and focus on polishing the various aspects of your own game and being encouraging. Raging over what others are or aren't doing is an incredible waste of your own time. People seem to forget that (1) at one point, they used to be the failing feeding teammate, (2) it's a Beta, and (3) it's still a GAME. Nobody is dying in real life. And so it seems to me that if you see you're going to lose, you can work on your general execution...or last-hitting creeps...or stacking ancients...or your skill order...or defense...or map awareness (lord knows there's nothing to keep you on your toes and alert like an enemy hero 5 levels ahead of you. lol). I mean you can do SOMETHING constructive. Few are so good they can't learn anything in a no-win situation. but bitching doesn't help anyone, ever. If people are dying, they're well aware of it. There are ways to extract better play from teammates, but most don't seem to know how. when people are acting like they have no home training, I usually just stop reading the comments.
anyway,
Dat Drow. :3
fun when you're playing against foes that are also somewhat new because there are few dickheads...and more kills to grab. Drow can really hurt feelings. thanks for the help GAF!
Was the aim of the match to not kill like the last crazy attempt of trying to finish 0-0-0?
Yeah, I was mostly venting. Good pep talk and valid points.
Procarbine
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Nah, mine was playing against Josh P and his friends, 5 shots in, on furion. Pretty sure that was my third furion game, dota 1 included. Hate that guy, they made me do it.
Cydonian__Knight
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Thanks Lirlond. I was having trouble getting gold mid game, but I did pick up an aghanims eventually, it definitely helps in those team fights.
sssstententen
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Having a really rough time finding a lasting game.
And what I mean by that is I keep having 1-3 disconnects on my team PER GAME.
Its infuriating especially when I am trying to learn the ebb and flow of new characters or try new builds, it doesn't matter when you have no team to back you up.
Zeus is one of the most fun characters in the game. Bottle + Wards up at the 2 rune spawn locations and playing mid is a blast, I just need to find people who won't leave in the first 5/10 minutes!
And what I mean by that is I keep having 1-3 disconnects on my team PER GAME.
Its infuriating especially when I am trying to learn the ebb and flow of new characters or try new builds, it doesn't matter when you have no team to back you up.
Zeus is one of the most fun characters in the game. Bottle + Wards up at the 2 rune spawn locations and playing mid is a blast, I just need to find people who won't leave in the first 5/10 minutes!
ToyMachine228
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I suck so bad at this it isn't even funny. Granted I am pretty new to MOBA games, but I am getting destroyed by bots on Easy. I played a game as Zeus (who I liked well enough) but just get destroyed by enemy heroes. That and I don't really know what items to buy. I want to get into this, but I'm so bad at it I feel like I can't.
Need to do Royalty Cleave when we're capable of playing.
MustacheBandit_
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Try setting up a private bot match and invite somebody that is willing to play alongside you and help you learn.
ItAintEasy
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There is no such thing as can't. If you sink some time into it you can get better. Send me a pm if you want I can help you get a handle on some of the key aspects of the game.
Always depend on which side you are on.
Togglesworlh
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He's only fun if you don't like fun.
Like those people who play MMOs for the PvE.
Like those people who play MMOs for the PvE.
They're slowly decreasing the join date requirement. You can try your luck next time
All we were missing was Enigma, Viper was the pub, goes 0 & 5. AFK farms all game while team aoe teamfights and wins all teamfights.
that was a ridiculously fun game i decided to roam at just the right moment
There's an item page on playdota too. Open both up to cross-check. It doesn't take long to know them afterwards.
We had that game as well after a bad early/mid start. Communication is key but a lot of the times people were trying to solo gank late game which cost us the game.
That alch was crazy late game perma bashing people, he takes awhile to get going but damn hes pretty strong late game.
dorkimoe
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I H8 Memes
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What is this inhouse event?
Woo-Fu
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Lich on my team today, playing with his son. First they demand their own lane even though putting two complete noobs on a lane is a bad idea.
Then the Lich goes 0/16/1. He buys a few items, never figures out how to get them out of his stash.
He then says, "this game sucks!" and disconnects around the 10-15 minute mark.
At the very least the game needs to force new players to play a round or two with bots before subjecting the rest of the world to their poor preparation.
The only reason he even made 7 was because we started microing him ourselves just to have the ulti for base defense.
Then the Lich goes 0/16/1. He buys a few items, never figures out how to get them out of his stash.
He then says, "this game sucks!" and disconnects around the 10-15 minute mark.
At the very least the game needs to force new players to play a round or two with bots before subjecting the rest of the world to their poor preparation.
The only reason he even made 7 was because we started microing him ourselves just to have the ulti for base defense.
I H8 Memes
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Maybe a troll? According to the stats on his Steam page he has played Dota 2 for 121 hours.
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