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Dota 2 Beta Thread V: Real Talk Strikes Back [Tutorials]

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snack

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this happened earlier today.

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lol dat smack talk
 

BeesEight

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Trying to convince my friend to be the carry role on our team. He picks Medusa. Could there possibly be a single worst hero? Might as well just play 4v5. I feel by the time she's going to be relevant, we've already won without her.

I want to say that five second root/disarm is worthwhile but I can't even justify teleporting the Medusa in to drop it since she does so little damage it hardly seems worth pulling her from her farm.
 

nilbog21

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Trying to convince my friend to be the carry role on our team. He picks Medusa. Could there possibly be a single worst hero? Might as well just play 4v5. I feel by the time she's going to be relevant, we've already won without her.

I want to say that five second root/disarm is worthwhile but I can't even justify teleporting the Medusa in to drop it since she does so little damage it hardly seems worth pulling her from her farm.

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Enco

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Just played Phantom Lancer for the second time and wow....

First time I got 1 kill 11 deaths. Hated him.

This game I got 7 kills 1 death. Not amazing but I pretty much took down the enemies entire base alone. I got heart of tarrasque and was unstoppable. Along with natures prophet, the game was over.
 

Gxgear

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Just played Phantom Lancer for the second time and wow....

First time I got 1 kill 11 deaths. Hated him.

This game I got 7 kills 1 death. Not amazing but I pretty much took down the enemies entire base alone. I got heart of tarrasque and was unstoppable. Along with natures prophet, the game was over.

Like all forms of cancer, early detection greatly increases the chance of successful treatment.
 

kazabi

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So you skipped rax? Is that it?

If you say it like that, sure.

But they should have had that game, but they got greedy and wanted the bottom rax. It's even more fun to look at the replay from their player perspectives. Anti-mage pushing on top lane didn't even once check back on mid lane while we were taking throne. Shadow fiend was buying items in the secret shop while standing still in the base while we were hitting throne towers. Shit was funny. I think that only dirge knew that we were going for throne before it was too late, so he was plinging us mad.
 

JustinBB7

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Whoever's taking over for Bamboe has immaculate control, 4+ kills during his absence and continual farm.

I think they shared heroes and Jakiro controlled Bane, Jakiro said microing 2 supports at the same time is hard. Might be #egjokes but that might be a better thing to do. Though Naix and Mag were always together..
 

shira

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If you say it like that, sure.

But they should have had that game, but they got greedy and wanted the bottom rax. It's even more fun to look at the replay from their player perspectives. Anti-mage pushing on top lane didn't even once check back on mid lane while we were taking throne. Shadow fiend was buying items in the secret shop while standing still in the base while we were hitting throne towers. Shit was funny. I think that only dirge knew that we were going for throne before it was too late, so he was plinging us mad.

No, it's hard to understand what is going on. Thanks for the explanation.
 

Sibylus

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I think they shared heroes and Jakiro controlled Bane, Jakiro said microing 2 supports at the same time is hard. Might be #egjokes but that might be a better thing to do. Though Naix and Mag were always together..
Yeah, the Magnus seems the logical one, given the 1-2 punch between those two heroes. Easier than playing Meepo!
 
So how does one lane against Sniper again? Because I still seem him as a little fucking asshole who's base attack damage is way too fucking high because he makes it impossible to get a single last hit without taking like one third of your health.

He's almost exactly like Drow. Pick Clockwerk and collect easy kills. It's like picking Viper versus a Huskar. Free kills all day.


Also, Pyrion Flax does it again! I think I like Phantom Bastard better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIhyPMusUWg
 
So how does one lane against Sniper again? Because I still seem him as a little fucking asshole who's base attack damage is way too fucking high because he makes it impossible to get a single last hit without taking like one third of your health.

Me playing as Sniper: 1 headshot out of 10.
Someone else playing as Sniper: 9 headshots out of 10.
 
Fuck yes. Just won two games in a row in late game that I probably should have lost, just looking at the team compositions and farm. First one was me playing TA; as far as carries go we also had Mirana and Sniper but we were against KoTL PL, Dragon Knight and Storm. They were really close to taking our mid rax, but then we kept wiping them and won in the end.

Second game was me playing Spectre vs Troll Warlord + Magnus + Sven (they also had Dazzle for some nice -armor) and on our team there was only an Invoker and Undying apart from me. I think I had like 25 last hits after 10 minutes, lane was pretty tough (Lina, Sven vs Spectre, Shadow Shaman) but they kept 4-5 manning and I would just Haunt into team fights when necessary. Eventually got a Drum, Diffusal, BFly and Heart and they just couldn't kill me anymore. We also got every aegis after 20 minutes game time, so that helped too.
 
Frustrating to rule the early to mid game only for Void and Sniper to crush us late game.

http://dotabuff.com/matches/188453559

I can get good RPs, we just can't use them for anything.

Because your team didnt pick any heroes to compliment the RP. Were you guys planing to right-click them to death after the RP. Your only chance was for Rubick to steal call down from Gyro. Best hero to compliment Magnus (or a Void or Enigma) is Lich. But even a Gyro, or a Witch Dr, or Crystal Maiden. There are many heroes with the kinds of ultis that compliment Magnus but you didnt have any of them on your team. Just something with a high damage AOE to take advantage of the RP.

Next time try a Magnus mid, jungle Enigma, and support Lich. I dont think it's even possible to lose with that combo.
 

Hylian7

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Because your team didnt pick any heroes to compliment the RP. Were you guys planing to right-click them to death after the RP. Your only chance was for Rubick to steal call down from Gyro. Best hero to compliment Magnus (or a Void or Enigma) is Lich. But even a Gyro, or a Witch Dr, or Crystal Maiden. There are many heroes with the kinds of ultis that compliment Magnus but you didnt have any of them on your team. Just something with a high damage AOE to take advantage of the RP.

Next time try a Magnus mid, jungle Enigma, and support Lich. I dont think it's even possible to lose with that combo.

The mode was Random Draft. We had to first pick Magnus, they got Void, the best carry in the pool leaving us with Weaver. Enigma and Lich weren't there.

Could have forced the issue a little more with the early-game advantage I think.

We tried, they just saw it coming a lot of the time and had the team there. Maybe I was too hesitant with Blink+Skewer?
 
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