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Dota 2 Beta Thread V: Real Talk Strikes Back [Tutorials]

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KingKong

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This is getting fast-track approved isn't it. League of Legends here we come.

Im down. Elephant magnus, ladybug nyx, wall street invoker, bring it on
 

Drkirby

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What's up with people starting Compendium games then quitting right at the beginning? Can they get banned for that?

You get a card for "completing" the game, so they party up as a group of 5, then all quit at once. They don't get abandons since the game ends after 30 seconds, but still get the loot for playing the game.
 

Conceptor

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You get a card for "completing" the game, so they party up as a group of 5, then all quit at once. They don't get abandons since the game ends after 30 seconds, but still get the loot for playing the game.
I hope they fix this soon, cards were going for 6/7 per treasure key last night when I checked.... Wonder what it's at now
 

kiaaa

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Then how do you beat him, because I couldn't do anything. Shockwave spam was endless and I couldn't get any farm.

I think Slark goes even in that lane, but Mag probably wins with an early level in empower. At the very least, Mag should probably outfarm Slark (moreso if he bottle crows).
 

BraXzy

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This game! Sometimes I feel like I'm actually getting somewhere and improving, get a couple satisfying wins... And then I just get stomped like a bug. I don't know what it is about Luna but I can't for the life of me use her. Seems so squishy.

I was solo against viper and ogre magi who could stun lock me to death before I could escape, couldn't even get close enough for xp.
 

TommyT

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This game! Sometimes I feel like I'm actually getting somewhere and improving, get a couple satisfying wins... And then I just get stomped like a bug. I don't know what it is about Luna but I can't for the life of me use her. Seems so squishy.

I was solo against viper and ogre magi who could stun lock me to death before I could escape, couldn't even get close enough for xp.

Well, yeah. That's a terrible lane for her to be solo against. Don't be afraid to build her a bit more tanky early on if need be. Once you get your farm up and going + ult kills you will start to roll heads.
 

-tetsuo-

Unlimited Capacity
This game! Sometimes I feel like I'm actually getting somewhere and improving, get a couple satisfying wins... And then I just get stomped like a bug. I don't know what it is about Luna but I can't for the life of me use her. Seems so squishy.

I was solo against viper and ogre magi who could stun lock me to death before I could escape, couldn't even get close enough for xp.

Viper is Luna's arch enemy.
 

Etnos

Banned
Uggh.. After 148 games: I Got my first low priority (24 hours) early this morning. My internet went nutz for a couple of hours, got disconnected at 40 mins in... Needles to say they reported me even thou I was literary carrying the team.

I'll be SC2 ing till tomorrow.
 

Artanisix

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Uggh.. After 148 games: I Got my first low priority (24 hours) early this morning. My internet went nutz for a couple of hours, got disconnected at 40 mins in... Needles to say they reported me even thou I was literary carrying the team.

I'll be SC2 ing till tomorrow.

Don't think they reported you, you probably just got thrown into low prio because of abandons.
 

BraXzy

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Wtf, the game just froze, then dropped, then after attempting to reconnect was disrupted altogether and I was left at the menu with "Find Match" there...?
 

Etnos

Banned
This game! Sometimes I feel like I'm actually getting somewhere and improving, get a couple satisfying wins... And then I just get stomped like a bug. I don't know what it is about Luna but I can't for the life of me use her. Seems so squishy.

I was solo against viper and ogre magi who could stun lock me to death before I could escape, couldn't even get close enough for xp.

Not saying it is you, but seems to me lots of dudes don't grasp the concept of hero match up. Having a couple of heroes that complement well, or counter enemy heroes goes a long way.

I would say that at midish - low level 50% of the win is at the selection screen. Most of the times I lost horribly is because there are 3 support, or 3 carry or... just not a good hero synergy going on.

Playing just one or two heroes really limits you to both complement your team and counter enemy heroes. Work on a rooster of at least 10 heroes.
 
How exactly do you farm with Weaver and what do you get first? I tried a bot match, and I managed with 20 mins treads and link's, but I dunno. I felt pretty weak until 30 mins (butterfly/mkb).
 

-tetsuo-

Unlimited Capacity
Uggh.. After 148 games: I Got my first low priority (24 hours) early this morning. My internet went nutz for a couple of hours, got disconnected at 40 mins in... Needles to say they reported me even thou I was literary carrying the team.

I'll be SC2 ing till tomorrow.

I've been in low priority for a few days now thanks to one of the guys I play with. WOrst part is, he hasn't really abandoned any games. He just gets D/Ced and can't get back in on time :-/
 

Artanisix

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I never liked Linkens on Weaver. He's a fierce killer given appropriate room. I really like TC's poor-man's Weaver with Phase/Aquila/Drums/Medallion-->> Deso / Manta. You hit like a truck early game with germinate and swarm.
 

shira

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How exactly do you farm with Weaver and what do you get first? I tried a bot match, and I managed with 20 mins treads and link's, but I dunno. I felt pretty weak until 30 mins (butterfly/mkb).

I skip boots and go Mask of Madness. Full yolo against bots.
 

Etnos

Banned
I've been in low priority for a few days now thanks to one of the guys I play with. WOrst part is, he hasn't really abandoned any games. He just gets D/Ced and can't get back in on time :-/

Yeah, I dont want to get all whiny because of low priority. Valve is doing everything flawlessly perfect with DOTA 2, yet the low priority system seems to harsh or exploitative at times, really we don't need this cowboy justice.
 

Demoli

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With weaver i usually go Threads Aquilla Drums with a poor man's. Works wonders, gives you a lot of Stats and auras and will caryy you until you get a Deso, love it.
 

demented

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What is the highest ping you can play with without too many issues?
Gonna relocate for the summer to my seaside place where I have no internet besides mobile one(which is faster than one I have at the moment, it's just the ping that sucks..)
 

BeesEight

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I've been in low priority for a few days now thanks to one of the guys I play with. WOrst part is, he hasn't really abandoned any games. He just gets D/Ced and can't get back in on time :-/

From what I can tell, if you get two abandons in 24 hours you're placed in low-priority. Happened to a friend of mine as well while he was having computer troubles. Missed the five minute window and we were then in low-priority.

I just teased him about it afterwards, but if your internet is really spotty or you have hardware/software issues it might be worthwhile to try and sort them out first. Otherwise, I guess play one game a day?

I'm not sure how else they could distinguish between actual quitters and those with computer issues.
 

Artanisix

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Around 180 is where it starts to get uncomfortable for me. Played around 250~ on Australian servers before, it was playable but not the greatest.
 
I never liked Linkens on Weaver. He's a fierce killer given appropriate room. I really like TC's poor-man's Weaver with Phase/Aquila/Drums/Medallion-->> Deso / Manta. You hit like a truck early game with germinate and swarm.

You didn't answer how to farm man. Or just go full gankman.
 

Boken

Banned
What is the highest ping you can play with without too many issues?
Gonna relocate for the summer to my seaside place where I have no internet besides mobile one(which is faster than one I have at the moment, it's just the ping that sucks..)
Being a poor Australian, you can learn to with up to 200. Around 220, everything happens too slowly
 

G-Unit

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So I decided to not buy a mechanical keyboard until august when my sister travel home. I got a wireless mac one, plus an bluetooth adapter, plus a new wireless n adapter. I really needed the mac one for work, I should do ok without the other one for a month.
 

Dahbomb

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You didn't answer how to farm man. Or just go full gankman.
You should try to find a balance but you can last hit fine between Geminate and Sukuchi (which is an AOE nuke). Weaver can survive in lanes for a long time because of his escapes.

In ganks/team fights you can just spam Sukuchi and right clicks while placing Swarm on enemy heroes, the damage starts to add up quick.
 

Glix

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This game! Sometimes I feel like I'm actually getting somewhere and improving, get a couple satisfying wins... And then I just get stomped like a bug. I don't know what it is about Luna but I can't for the life of me use her. Seems so squishy.

I was solo against viper and ogre magi who could stun lock me to death before I could escape, couldn't even get close enough for xp.

I don't know about soloing a sidelane with Luna especially against those two.
 
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