Dota 2 Beta Thread V: Real Talk Strikes Back [Tutorials]
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Heavy's Sandvich
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Qpad are awful. Like Denid's Magnus awful.
Huh? That game had nothing to do with the qualifiers.
Schweinehund
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That skywrath mage set looks awesome.
wtb troll warlord model on workshop, I want my trollhawk already.
wtb troll warlord model on workshop, I want my trollhawk already.
I H8 Memes
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BO5 and losers brackets make for a very lame competition. What exactly is wrong with BO3 and single elimination? Not only does this format really kill enthusiasm but it also completely eliminates the chance for a Cinderella story like you would see in the NCAA college basketball playoffs or the NFL playoffs. No chance for those great underdog stories that make competition exciting.
In about 30 mins i think.
In the Starladder match earlier, VP stomped QPAD in 11 minutes.
JoinDOTA says an hour and a half from now.
You were pulling for me until I went on teamfight adventures you no assist having meepo.
I will never buy a compendium.
Oops, my bad.
Stronghammer22
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True. There has been a <18 minute game in the qualifiers though, so he can still cheer. I'm hoping DD gets up today, despite having them second in the Compendium. Fear the tree!
Imp the Dimp
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Is there a VOD of the 11min GG?
Well the "end screen" was >18min. Lets see how Valve will count that. I think they'll just parse the replay data for the predictions, which would be lame. :<
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Shorty11857
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Is there any reason why there's so many leavers in the game now? Every game someone seems to leave when they get first blooded
In the west at least, AM and PL are both somewhat out of favor for the same reason. Since the western scene currently is a balance between highly mobile ganking lineups designed to punish the kind of farming those carries need and super strong pushing lineups that can end a game way faster than those heroes can make an impact, they are situational heroes at best.
Lifestealer, Gyro, Luna, Lone Druid, etc. are heroes that are ready to go way before a PL or an AM could possibly be ready to go.
In the eastern scene where that late game playstyle is more common, it does seem that AM(maybe even spectre, who is basically never picked in the west) is more popular than PL as far as late game carries go.
Technosteve
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I bet on Mouz, I Believe in Synd
to not choke
The Technomancer
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Right, PL doesn't get a lot of play at the moment because fast pushing ganking strats are currently in vogue. But getting both the team composition and the team co-ordination to do that in a pub game is next to impossible. He's essentially in the same position as Lycan was pre-nerf.
He's not even close, Lycan was a carry who could jungle safely from lvl1 and then destroy everyone after 10 minutes, PL is a nuke until 20 minutes and shutting him down is much easier.
By the way you don't need that much coordination, you can even do it basically solo in a pub: pick CK, farm the safe lane and when you have drums, armlet and lvl11 you can either go and kill him or just walk up to towers, use your ult and destroy them.
shira
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Sure, it's the weekend and there are tonnes of casual lookie-loos trying the game out
Oh the memories... My first rampage...
Pureauthor
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Hahahaha, no. Lycan was consistently first pick/ban because no team wanted to face him unless they had a strat designed around baiting the Lycan pick.
PL had a brief moment in the sun until people started realizing how to counter him and now he just doesn't show up very often.
Technosteve
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TI2 Lycan was a GOD, so fun to watch him fucking run half way across the map and just murder punks.
Pre shows are going on, game starts in about 37 mins.
PL is considered a safe pick nowadays. Just make a trilane and farm, thats just what it takes.
I believe he won't choke, but that alas he won't have the time to win 3 games by the time DD win 2.
That's how it works right?
Ah, okay. Thanks.
No. Mouz is still gonna lose though.
If I had my choice of a reasonable PL change, it would be that having true sight would give you some graphical indicator about which one was the true PL. It's incredibly frustrating, especially late game, to be completely prepared with sentries/dust/gem yet still have no idea which PL to initiate on. It seems ridiculous to me that detection is completely dependent on the PL and not the opposing team's items or abilities. Detection does nothing unless the PL chooses to Dopplewalk.
Pureauthor
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Nope. Look at the Western qualifiers. He doesn't show up very often in comparison to other carries like Lifestealer, LD, or Gyro.
I H8 Memes
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The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Its that in combination with the lack of attack animation on Doppelwalk meaning that you can never be sure if he's actually in the crowd or if he saw you coming and ran away six seconds ago and baited you into wasting a dust charge (with its goddamn 60 second cooldown)
spootime
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hnnnnngggg soe pls
Yes, all boils down to THIS as my main gripe with the hero. Its so easy to lose him in a teamfight or waste mana/health fighting the wrong one. But I cant think of anything to fix this without hurting the other illusion users (Naga, CK, manta pickers...)
Simple, reverse the collision size reduction. Illusions stand apart from each other further and it becomes less of a soup.
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