Valve dragging their ass is hurting Dota's long term prospects, but at the same time the games could coexist if Riot and Tencent weren't so hellbent on eliminating competition.
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Valve dragging their ass is hurting Dota's long term prospects, but at the same time the games could coexist if Riot and Tencent weren't so hellbent on eliminating competition.
Nirvana
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Knowing Na'Vi of late they'll go aggressive, get early lead, buy troll items and then throw
you guys havent even established what a LOLer running ACE is
i find it amusing that nobody has even entertained ACE's argument that it is to create a seperation between pro tournaments and amateur tournaments
then it just sounds like there arent enough dota2 tournaments - though 3 sounds like a lot tbh.
and what is up with the bullshit that they cant play? they can scrim any chinese team they want. there is no excuse to say that they havent played in 3 months other than using this as some convenient excuse for sucking
Get good I guess.
Also there just following Heroes of Newerth with the decision to stop Bottle crowing.
shira
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The prolly have draconian contracts too. I hope Chuan gets himself kicked off iG and can join the Western scene. idk about any of the Chinese nationals though. That would suck to be stuck in a gaming house all year with only 3 tournaments a year.
SteveWinwood
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Heavy's Sandvich
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Dota's "growth" has stagnated and receded over the last few months.
I like graphs and stuff, link?
One analyst at a finance firm attributed this to "not enough teemos"
well there we have it.
Schweinehund
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I attribute my recent break from dota to my infinite crisis beta invite.
Just wait until Techies gets in and they're like, three teemos.
http://steamstatshistory.appspot.com/list
It has recently started spiking back up a bit the last couple weeks because of the international qualifiers and stuff I imagine it should break 400k for the international...
Techies is like temo, except 3 of his skills are temo's ult. It's his ult right?
Edit: thx for the graph!
shira
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Dat TI3 prize pool is not plateauing like I thought it wood.
All I care about is the immortal item
not looking good though...SteveWinwood
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Yeah I wouldn't call it stagnating.
If you really wanted to make an argument for that you could use twitch rankings (Jan, Feb, March, April) but April was just a slow month for dota, and large for sc2. Also small sample and hiccups/irregularities/outliers blah blah blah.
It'll go up again when TI3 rolls closer, and as they get some of the rewards out.
If you really wanted to make an argument for that you could use twitch rankings (Jan, Feb, March, April) but April was just a slow month for dota, and large for sc2. Also small sample and hiccups/irregularities/outliers blah blah blah.
All I care about is the immortal item
It'll go up again when TI3 rolls closer, and as they get some of the rewards out.
That would probably end up making the pool so big even Tencent would be wary about trying to match it.
Adventures in not giving up:
Man I wish replays showed team chat, our scrublic Bane was going to abandon 10 minutes in. Typical pubs.
Schweinehund
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do a chart for hero releases.
Heavy's Sandvich
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http://steamstatshistory.appspot.com/list
It has recently started spiking back up a bit the last couple weeks because of the international qualifiers and stuff I imagine it should break 400k for the international...
Considering that recent bump has been people watching the International qualifiers in the client.
Edit: Peak was around November 2012 time and it's plateaued/declined in that period. Recent bump due to those watching in client rather than playing it seems.
But of course, it was exam season since November etc.
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TIME TO BACKTRACK, LOL ok buddy
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The Technomancer
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I do not have your hat.
I have not seen it.
I have not seen any hats anywhere.
I would not steal a hat.
Don't ask me any more questions
Heavy's Sandvich
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Er... do you know what stagnation means?
do you?
Heavy's Sandvich
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Yeah, there's slight decline since November 2012.
When people have used the client, it's to restore it to it's November 2012 numbers.
Those numbers are "inflated" not because people are playing, but because a significant amount have used it to to watch matches (upwards of 50,000 in matches watching).
So, do you know what stagnation means?
Edit: no equivocation, even with people watching, it's still back to November 2012 numbers.
Only Gideon Osborne would call that growth.
Further edit: November is something I've pulled out my bum here, even since March, we've seen decline to stagnation.
When people have used the client, it's to restore it to it's November 2012 numbers.
Those numbers are "inflated" not because people are playing, but because a significant amount have used it to to watch matches (upwards of 50,000 in matches watching).
So, do you know what stagnation means?
Edit: no equivocation, even with people watching, it's still back to November 2012 numbers.
Only Gideon Osborne would call that growth.
Further edit: November is something I've pulled out my bum here, even since March, we've seen decline to stagnation.
Lionheart1337
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Awwww yeah DD get daddy those rares!
time to throw
BRO 120K PEOPLE WE'RE SIMPLY WATCHIN DOTA MATCHES THRU THE CLIENT ON MARCH 20, 2013 THAT DOESN'T COUNT; DOTA IS STAGNATING AND DECLINING
Shorty11857
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The numbers are about double what they were in November...
To be fair, Dota did stagnate from March until the past two weeks, but it's on the uptick again.
The uptick doesn't count, it's TI3 season. The downtick counts however, LOL at those exam season excuses hahahaha typical dota players.
Pureauthor
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When was Valve's Hawaii vacation? Because that coincided with a lot of their servers going on the fritz, and it was the first time I noticed the Steam Stat numbers weren't rising so much anymore.
The exact same population stagnation happened last year. It's just a seasonal thing due to so many Dota players being students.
Dreams-Visions
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Like I've said several times, it won't even come close to the final goal. No way in hell. Doesn't have the player base for it, nor number of incentives to make those who are the most unlikely to buy something from the store do so...and those least likely are the players they have to reach in order to hit that goal.
Dat TI3 prize pool is not plateauing like I thought it wood.
QPAD +2GD vs Navi on Starladder coming up soon: http://www.twitch.tv/sheevergaming
(yeah I know it's sheever but Mini's co-casting and James + Weppas are standins lol)
(yeah I know it's sheever but Mini's co-casting and James + Weppas are standins lol)
Oh you're bringing this up again.
Heavy's Sandvich
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Completely concede I got confused in me being so right that I put the peak point at November.
It's March.
I'll make another correction. Growth has been astronomical after a stagnation and decline.
We've now slightly, just about matched March numbers.
LoL we're coming for you.
It's March.
I'll make another correction. Growth has been astronomical after a stagnation and decline.
We've now slightly, just about matched March numbers.
LoL we're coming for you.
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