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I prefer two geos as with orb of venom, your kill potential rises dramatically once you get your ult, even in dual vs. dual. Depends on the matchup but this is the build I'll be sticking with.
Gentle Rodriguez
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Twitch decided that I'm not allowed to stream at any quality but low today.
Go fuck yourself Twitch
Go fuck yourself Twitch
Sgt.Pepper
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Bad players=!reportable
Report people who are insulting, fuck their teammates on purpose, call gg early and feed.
Someone not playing how you want isn't a reason to report. I'm sure as hell ain't reporting that guy that went INT Anti-Mage.
I think the main indicator for a real patch will be when they add a new crate to the drop pool
also NaVi vs Alliance! http://www.twitch.tv/dreamleague
Dreams-Visions
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Yea he's going to do that regardless (create 4v5's). But you can prevent him from hurting so much with early ganks. And if you can keep him undereleveled, his ult will be underpowered and thus irrelevant.
Head of Vengarl
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Let me first thank you both for taking the time to watch the replay and give me advice! I really appreciate it.
No it doesn't sound harsh, but BeesEight answered it for me:
That was exactly what I was thinking at the time. The thing is, I've read posts in here (by much better players than me) who said sometimes you have to decide that teammates aren't worth helping if they can't help themselves. That's kinda how I felt, because Void/DK is such a shit lane that I didn't think I would be able to contribute much against the opposing Silencer/Nyx/Viper gank squad who kept taking them out. I was worried that I would rotate to help them out just to get killed myself. As Bees said, I bought no CC to the table as Zeus, so I wasn't very confident about our chances.
But not to be too defensive I definitely could have done more. What I probably should have done when Viper ganked top, is rotate bot and gank Warlock/Tide. Slardar and LD have decent CC together (granted Entangle procs) so we probably could have killed at least one of them.
Yes, and if I wouldn't have ganked bot (like I probably should have), I definitely should have at least pushed the mid lane and taken a tower. I fucked up there. I was just scared of pushing too far and letting Viper sneak back to mid and killing me. But that's no excuse, because I should have bought wards to have vision of the river. My rune control was godawful, no excuses there.
Yeah, really dumb move by me. I was having trouble last hitting so I just started using Chain Lightning. But this still wouldn't have been a huge issue if I had controlled the runes, because then I would have had enough mana to kill Viper. My shitty rune control really cost me.
So what I should take away from that match is: Buy wards, control runes, manage mana, and push hard when the enemy is absent. These are things I basically already knew, but for some reason didn't put into practice that match. Well I guess it's one thing to know and another to execute. My execution was poor. Having said that, I still refuse to take the majority of the blame for that loss. I will take my share of it though. I also regret letting some random pub players get under my skin. Usually when I solo queue like that I'm laid back and just ignore shit talkers, but for whatever reason it bugged the hell out of me last night.
No it doesn't sound harsh, but BeesEight answered it for me:
That was exactly what I was thinking at the time. The thing is, I've read posts in here (by much better players than me) who said sometimes you have to decide that teammates aren't worth helping if they can't help themselves. That's kinda how I felt, because Void/DK is such a shit lane that I didn't think I would be able to contribute much against the opposing Silencer/Nyx/Viper gank squad who kept taking them out. I was worried that I would rotate to help them out just to get killed myself. As Bees said, I bought no CC to the table as Zeus, so I wasn't very confident about our chances.
But not to be too defensive I definitely could have done more. What I probably should have done when Viper ganked top, is rotate bot and gank Warlock/Tide. Slardar and LD have decent CC together (granted Entangle procs) so we probably could have killed at least one of them.
Yes, and if I wouldn't have ganked bot (like I probably should have), I definitely should have at least pushed the mid lane and taken a tower. I fucked up there. I was just scared of pushing too far and letting Viper sneak back to mid and killing me. But that's no excuse, because I should have bought wards to have vision of the river. My rune control was godawful, no excuses there.
Yeah, really dumb move by me. I was having trouble last hitting so I just started using Chain Lightning. But this still wouldn't have been a huge issue if I had controlled the runes, because then I would have had enough mana to kill Viper. My shitty rune control really cost me.
So what I should take away from that match is: Buy wards, control runes, manage mana, and push hard when the enemy is absent. These are things I basically already knew, but for some reason didn't put into practice that match. Well I guess it's one thing to know and another to execute. My execution was poor. Having said that, I still refuse to take the majority of the blame for that loss. I will take my share of it though. I also regret letting some random pub players get under my skin. Usually when I solo queue like that I'm laid back and just ignore shit talkers, but for whatever reason it bugged the hell out of me last night.
Everytime I bring him into smurf queue it ends poorly.
I wonder if he reported me too after i carried him with invoker, one of my worst heroes, in my worst role, with 150 USE ping.
This may or may not be a true statement
JakkuFurosu
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a xboct QoP.
Never seen this before so pretty excited about that, she seems like shed be right up his ally
Never seen this before so pretty excited about that, she seems like shed be right up his ally
shira
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No reason to be hard on yourself, though. I'm terrible at mid too and need to work on the exact same things. As you said, you're practicing it, so it will just take time and repetition. And as I said, you were the only one to win your lane, so there was no justifiable grounds for them to try and pin the blame on you.
I'd say keep it up, though. You really did do well against Viper and that's not a matchup I would favour for Zeus. I find it takes quite a few games for me to learn mana management of heroes and hopefully next game you get into you'll actually have a team that will... well... play like a team.
Dreams-Visions
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CarbonatedFalcon
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EXTENDDDDDD
It must be hard being the greatest gamer since fatal1ty.
Dreams-Visions
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...and that's why I put my Bulldog autograph on my Scythe.
yep.
yep.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Well it would be just about as good on the panda or cauldron, but yeah...
That game was ridiculous.
Dreams-Visions
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Nah. When he gets loose on NP...ggwp. He's everywhere, all the time.
Let's just be brief and call it a cubekill.
Train of Midnight
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I can't express how sick I am of seeing every fucking team pick clockwerk. Play someone eeelllsseeee
Clockwerk is hype son.
oh snap Alliance Bristleback http://www.twitch.tv/d2l
Emerson
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http://dotabuff.com/matches/372704961
Ridiculous game that we managed to win largely on my shoulders as Warlock if I do say so myself. Knew the game was gonna be a problem from minute 1 as SK did nothing but bitch and try to coach Venge who was laning with him. Venge is a friend so I knew he wasn't playing like an idiot.
All game SK would run through their jungle or some shit trying to catch out a hero, find 5 and get melted, then yell at us for not fighting or knowing how to initiate. Each team had its ups and downs and we managed to each take a set of rax. Around this time SK abandons (~50 mins in) after raging to the enemy about being the only good player on the team.
Won a decent fight in the top lane and pushed hard 5 man. They pushed 3 or 4 mid and we base raced. Terrible idea for them, considering I had 4 golems on tap and Necro 3. We wiped their base before they cracked Tier 3 mid. Glad we pulled out the win but some of the people in this game are just laughable.
Ridiculous game that we managed to win largely on my shoulders as Warlock if I do say so myself. Knew the game was gonna be a problem from minute 1 as SK did nothing but bitch and try to coach Venge who was laning with him. Venge is a friend so I knew he wasn't playing like an idiot.
All game SK would run through their jungle or some shit trying to catch out a hero, find 5 and get melted, then yell at us for not fighting or knowing how to initiate. Each team had its ups and downs and we managed to each take a set of rax. Around this time SK abandons (~50 mins in) after raging to the enemy about being the only good player on the team.
Won a decent fight in the top lane and pushed hard 5 man. They pushed 3 or 4 mid and we base raced. Terrible idea for them, considering I had 4 golems on tap and Necro 3. We wiped their base before they cracked Tier 3 mid. Glad we pulled out the win but some of the people in this game are just laughable.
Shorty11857
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So it only took close to 3 months but Fnatic seem to have found their form
la flama blanca
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If anyone were to make an educated guess, would Alpine Ursa set prices be higher or lower a year from now?
Head of Vengarl
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You were ready before that. AP is the worst mode. Random Draft and Captain's Draft are superior.
Emerson
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I cannot think of any remotely likely reason they would be significantly lower.
SteveWinwood
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yes
shira
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Gowans has the worst ideas ever
Maybe not a 400-500% jump like we've seen in 9 months, but prices for limited sets tend to go up, the only question is by how much.
Gentle Rodriguez
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H4nni has been amazing yesterday and today. Dominating every game he plays.
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