SteveWinwood
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Dota 2 |OT3| #BetterThenEllenPudge
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Lactose_Intolerant
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call_kotaku
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2 games matched with absolutely awful stacks playing completely hopeless games. Valve will even out my 20 game w/l difference no matter what it takes!
What happens during the post-game "rate your enjoyment" matches, because it feels like it usually comes up after extremely one-sided games one way or another, but it's possible that it pops up after completely unmemorable games and I forgot about it. Is it just a way for DOTA to get further data on games where someone was reported?
What happens during the post-game "rate your enjoyment" matches, because it feels like it usually comes up after extremely one-sided games one way or another, but it's possible that it pops up after completely unmemorable games and I forgot about it. Is it just a way for DOTA to get further data on games where someone was reported?
Shorty11857
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Edit: League full
Okay, this is straight up pissing me off.
Can someone give me a replay analysis on this game?
Their Rubick abandoned pretty early on and we somehow STILL got stomped 4v5. I do not understand it at all what the fuck happened. We should have totally had the upper hand there.
http://dotabuff.com/matches/546124454
Can someone give me a replay analysis on this game?
Their Rubick abandoned pretty early on and we somehow STILL got stomped 4v5. I do not understand it at all what the fuck happened. We should have totally had the upper hand there.
http://dotabuff.com/matches/546124454
SteveWinwood
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well they get more gold than you so
other than that just looks like you guys got pudge'd and bloodseeker'd
neurosisxeno
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Their Bloodseeker almost has more GPM than your 3 carries combines--which is contributed to your loss since having those 3 heroes on one lineup is kind of stupid.
EDIT: Also, you lost mid very, very, very hard.
I didn't think so. What makes you say that?
I have the permanent "mad bads" with those heroes.
sounds more like a punishment than a cure
Doctor's orders
Are you going to give a real answer?
i recommend you to
lighten up
on a more serious topic, is MMR seriously not based on W/L?
Yes and no. Yes because you will generally gain points for winning and lose points for losing. No because how many you gain/lose is based on who you beat. For instance if you were 3k and somehow by some act of god got matched against a 5k stack and beat them, you would get a lot of points. Also KDR factors into it somehow I think, but I'm not sure about that. I always lose or gain around 25 points pretty much every game I think the highest I've gained or lost from one game is 27.
Why would it? That'd be a terrible measure. ELO derivations are far better.
"Yes because you will generally gain points for winning and lose points for losing. No because how many you gain/lose is based on who you beat. For instance if you were 3k and somehow by some act of god got matched against a 5k stack and beat them, you would get a lot of points."
is okay, thats typical elo system functionality
but KDR factoring into MMR gains/losses is kinda crazy sounding
i just heard KDA is part of the calculation - wuz fishing for the real answer
Imagine it's weighted against metrics like gold per minute, xp per minute, % GPM of team avg, % XPM of team avg, etc.
my issue is that all these game statistics (KDA incl) arent exactly role agnostic
transl: you have no game sense because you cant tell that/how/why you lost mid
Brought my smurf to 4K this way, easiest games of my life
Shorty11857
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KDA might be in your initial games, if you start at the game and start stomping 20-0 every game it'll probably realise you're a smurf and boost your rating but once it gets to a level where the system thinks it's got your proper ratings it's just whether you win or lose, weighted by which team was expected to win
Depends on how intelligent their weightings are, ie how accurately they're able to identify say, supports in this or that game.
Maybe I need to go look at the replay again, but I felt like I broke even mid in that game.
What role were you? Did you try buying it for them?
Typical "a guy abandoned so it's a free win, let's not take it seriously and keep dying". As soon as they lost rubick, they grouped and started to gank.
Breaking even agaisnt a pudge is pretty much losing the lane.
Yeah I was the only one buying and we did kill them both 2-3 times. But the dust cooldown was getting in the way. Maybe if one more party member was also buying them... I was (semi)carry Mirana.
idk, this picture recently came to my attention as an example of MMR abuse and it seems that KDA does matter, and that it doesnt care about supports and such
KDA and any other metric really shouldnt matter, at least after the first few games.
hylian did pretty well until 9 minutes
missing that first rune was pretty weird, youre a lvl 2 puck vs a pudge
3rd rune you shouldve killed him + the courier
at the 9 minute mark you just started roaming 24/7. you got like, 5 cs in 10 minutes. it might felt worth it, but SA was also roaming constantly. even NP joined the ganks sometimes. since WR/BS avoided a few ganks while brew and pudge farmed, giving them 3 lanes of exp/gold vs ur 2 (or 1). doesnt help that pudge gets return kills on your roam attempts too.
missing that first rune was pretty weird, youre a lvl 2 puck vs a pudge
3rd rune you shouldve killed him + the courier
at the 9 minute mark you just started roaming 24/7. you got like, 5 cs in 10 minutes. it might felt worth it, but SA was also roaming constantly. even NP joined the ganks sometimes. since WR/BS avoided a few ganks while brew and pudge farmed, giving them 3 lanes of exp/gold vs ur 2 (or 1). doesnt help that pudge gets return kills on your roam attempts too.
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