SteveWinwood
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I haven't played too many games of qw but qe is like 10 times more fun and you also don't get shit on in lane so I'll probably keep doing that.
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Dota 2 |OT4| The saga of Vade and ReRixo: the Boat Anchors continues.
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QW is such a joke that even I can play it and faceroll effectively. Tornado + EMP is ridiculously easy to hit now and all you need are 3-4 spells to be effective in fights--cold snap, tornado, EMP, and ghost walk.
My ideal nerf is to see the damage component of EMP completely removed, forces q/w invokers to put a few points in exort if they want more damage in team fights (along with the insane control q/w brings). Also reduces his solo kill potential which is stupid right now with ghost walk.
Also dotabuff winrates are generally meaningless from a balancing perspective cause most people are awful at this game.
Dotametrics and the competitive scene are much better measures.
Puck is completely fine. He simply has a low skill floor and a high skill ceiling. And as acknowledged most people suck at dota. So put the two and two together and you get a low winrate. Now let's take wk, high skill floor, not so high ceiling. Do the maths.
Definitely agree that emp needs a nerf. 540 mana is 100% of most strength and agility heroes' mana, effectively nullifying their skills and making them creeps. The timing is brain dead easy too. For the first few levels all you need to do is emp before you hit them with tornado and it is pretty much a guaranteed hit if they don't have some sort of blink. When he hits level 6, he is able to kill pretty much anyone if they are below 75% with that combo.
QE is pretty broken too if you can land some sun strikes in the early game. The faster you reach level 10, the faster the game is over. They may have nerfed forged spirits a bit but they are still extremely strong against everyone.
Ice pays more attention to pub stats now than he did before, as evidence by the 6.76 Drow nerfs.
I can't find it, which patch was she removed from CM briefly? I remember constant changes to her as she would go back and fourth from being OP to useless.
Gully State
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Heavy's Sandvich
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I think it was the patch that made her E global.
Which will effectively be three spell Invoker.
DOTA History - Old Invoker: http://youtu.be/l3tminWOrRk
It just amazes me how utterly useless some of those were, The biggest thing though was the one level Invoke and cooldown. That was the most limiting factor.
That fire breath spell was hilarious though.
There's a big difference between 3/10 and 3/27. And it would probably be effectively less that 27 spells, since some of them are useless like that immobile illusion one.
Krauser Kat
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This isnt actually pole dancing. Its an acro based pole circus act that is still in its earlier stages. She is going to get better but she has a long way to go.
shira
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Yeah I know a few friends who are working their way through med school via acro based pole circus acting
Patch up
- too many pudge
- no more duplicates
blog.dota2.com
The End End of duplicates
Schweinehund
Member
Just make it reduce intellect temporarily.
My issue is that it forces you to go back to base early game unless you have decent mana regen. It effectively ruins pushing and early game team fights at the same time.
so you can combo it with od
My issue is that it forces you to go back to base early game unless you have decent mana regen. It effectively ruins pushing and early game team fights at the same time.
balladofwindfishes
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A New puck set is going to be bundled with a ticket and that old pudge gladiator set is now set up to be sold on its own, so I guess it won't be tied to the ticket anymore?
i think that cackling is another bolt breaking.
Doubt it works that way. I bet it keeps things on the backend to know what you have received.
Technosteve
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i got the Venge set from the chest, so QT
Both Jungle and Lane are fine. Max wolves then Howl. Vlads -> threads ->medallion ->Necro.No swag whatsoever in mindnumbingly walking up to a tower, pressing w, and pushing it down with no real danger. No finesse needed.
0/10 hero.
Now we are speaking, that's the big content patch I expected to roll with Free to Play.
Schweinehund
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Its pretty standard, there isn't much choice for deviation. Vladds, Treads, medallion and then either necro or bkb. BKB if they are responding to your split pushing and have sufficicent CC, necro otherwise. He's still a beast team fighter, so if your team doesn't have a strong split push then you can start gearing him toward things like basher, armlet or ac. His feral impulse affects just base damage iirc, so 30% more benefit from armlet can be pretty beast.
I still play him jungle, get shield/quelling/tangos. Don't be afraid to walk back to base if you're low on health or mana, lycan's jungle starts slow but once you get to level 5 you can clear most of it on just one pack of wolves. There might be a better starting build for jungle, haven't really experimented.
Dreams-Visions
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Both are awfully easy, though. If you put EMP on one of the more awkward combinations maybe that would help? Maybe WWQ? Idk.
I assume the value proposition will be made with the quality of the bonus items you could possibly get.
The point is that it's hilariously hard to maximize Deafening Blast, making EMP require QWE would make for some awkward scaling.
Dreams-Visions
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Odd. I've found deafening the single easiest spell to invoke. Or do you mean that it's power is spread between Q W and E points?
The bonus items you could get have usually been a good value proposition in the past. The mythical+ items from many old chests can be incredibly valuable. You're still going to get the same amount of common items on the way to getting that one big score, you will just be going thru a rotation instead of getting one at random.
Technosteve
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don't listen to him, Lycan is a man fight hero. That rat dota stuff is in the past. Just man up and right click wins
So guys what is the best way to play doom?
Jungle lvl 1? Or lane and jungle after a few levls (like lycan).
What items should i build to help my team early on? Shadow blade ulti? Mek for team or afk farm that radiance?
Ive played four games so far with him and need to learn when to go in fights and when to farm with him.
Jungle lvl 1? Or lane and jungle after a few levls (like lycan).
What items should i build to help my team early on? Shadow blade ulti? Mek for team or afk farm that radiance?
Ive played four games so far with him and need to learn when to go in fights and when to farm with him.
Problem is EMP doesn't have that many scaling components. I guess you'd go back to scaling the formation time but have that change with quas and have exort scale the damage multiplier? I actually like the sound of that but making deafening blast scale only with wex in exchange sounds way too strong.
In the 116 games I've played with doom I prefer to lane but jungle can work too if you have the team composition.
As for items I like to go for basher after phase boots and then ac our Vlad's depending on how my farm is going.
6.76 drow was partially a dota 1 reaction, dota 1 was still getting publicity and still had a decent scene, and they first picked or first banned drow every game (blame the pinoys).
yeah ice pays attention to pub whining here and there (pl, sb), but I still like to think 95% of his balance changes are in accordance with competitive. Balance around the top and address severe outliers at the bottom gg no re.
according to dotabuff we need to nerf wraith king and buff anti-mage. sounds legit
"we lost boys"
SteveWinwood
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Yeah he means to truly max out the spell power you need to have max points in all 3 categories, as opposed to just one.