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[balladofwindfishes]

If that happens both our heads will be on a stake.

Hey, I said by the end of May.

I wonder if Dreamleague will have to go through the workshop for their items. They're so late, another week or two on the workshop would kill them.

 

[elyetis]

Why is Morphling not played as a support more often? Adaptive Strike when morphed strength is one of the best stuns in the game, he's tanky for a support when morphed strength, and Replicate lets you clone your hard carry in fights (-50% damage). Waveform and Replicate also make him a good counter ganker - an important duty to fulfill as a support in the current meta. I think you build him like Naga support i.e. Arcanes, Medallion, Urn, Halberd...

I should probably give it a go after I finish my dissertation in a few weeks.

Every time I want to try it, my friends insult me just for even thinking about it. :'(
But I still want to try morph support with a phantom lancer, for ultimate rat dota ( well if the Replicate does keep Juxtapose, but it should ).

 

[Emerson]

Hey, I said by the end of May.

I wonder if Dreamleague will have to go through the workshop for their items. They're so late, another week or two on the workshop would kill them.

Last I saw, they said the Pudge item was already submitted (could never find it) and Invoker was almost done. Like a week ago probably.

 

[Mohasus]

The only thing I want in 6.81
- Neutral camps removed from ability draft.


I don't even know why people try it, it is an instant loss. You gonna leave someone solo agaisnt 2 nukers, yeahhh and it's probably a slow jungle like feast or ion shell.

 

[inkls]

Hey, I said by the end of May.

I wonder if Dreamleague will have to go through the workshop for their items. They're so late, another week or two on the workshop would kill them.

( ＾◡&#65342っ✂ (x_x) Anbokr will be watching.

 

[elyetis]

The only thing I want in 6.81
- Neutral camps removed from ability draft.


I don't even know why people try it, it is an instant loss. You gonna leave someone solo agaisnt 2 nukers, yeahhh and it's probably a slow jungle like feast or ion shell.

So much things to do about ablity draft, yet I bet it will be pretty much left to die in it's current state ( + probably some new hero added to the pool ). No chat, no way to advise a skill to pick, and we also should be able to pick our hero ( between the 10 hero ) but in the opposite order from skill pick order. ( so the last one picking it's skill would at least have the advantage of being first pick when it comes to the hero )

 

[Demoli]

This DK turn around was very impressive, OD too stronk.

 

[Kade]

Not the best time to realize I actually could have gone to TI4.

 

[Randdalf]

Every time I want to try it, my friends insult me just for even thinking about it. :'(
But I still want to try morph support with a phantom lancer, for ultimate rat dota ( well if the Replicate does keep Juxtapose, but it should ).

The weakness in it is that Adaptive Strike is not that good until level 2, but once you reach level 5 if you skill 1-3-1 then you have a 2.25s stun on 10 second cooldown that costs 100 mana, and you have enough mana for three Adaptive Strikes or one Adaptive Strike plus a Waveform. He definitely doesn't have as good an early (early) game as most supports, I think he needs at least level 3 before he can effectively gank mid whereas most can go at level 2.

 

[Granadier]

6.81 yet? or..

 

[PhillipCostigan]

how do I make carry Windrunner work

 

[Hylian7]

Not the best time to realize I actually could have gone to TI4.

The only thing I want in 6.81
- Neutral camps removed from ability draft.


I don't even know why people try it, it is an instant loss. You gonna leave someone solo agaisnt 2 nukers, yeahhh and it's probably a slow jungle like feast or ion shell.

But Tinker with Rearm and Demonic Conversion is so ridiculously good. Infinite Enigmites!

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

how do I make carry Windrunner work

skullbasher + ulti = ridic.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

Riki picked by DK

 

[ViviOggi]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mushi QoP of Pain !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.twitch.tv/beyondthesummit

 

[Imp the Dimp]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mushi QoP of Pain !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.twitch.tv/beyondthesummit

getting rekt

 

[Sigismundo]

http://www.dotallyrad.com/2014/04/introducing-the-kingravenbot-and-ravencoins/

Even the King needs his own cryptocurrency.

 

[shira]

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/news/27539-rumour-rebirth-of-the-chinese-dream-team

China hater.

Spoiler

A Korean team won't be given a direct invite. You'd be pretty crazy to think so.

My predictions for TI teams.

Invited:

• China: DK, iG, VG, LGD
• Europe: Na`Vi, Alliance, Empire, Fnatic, C9
• North America: EG
• SEA: Titan

Qualifiers:

• China: 1. Newbee, 2. CIS
• Europe: 1. Team Dog, 2. RoX.KiS
• North America: 1. Team Liquid, 2. Revenge
• SEA: 1. Scythe, 2. Orange

Looks like China is not getting 4 invites

China: DK, VG
Europe: Na`Vi, Alliance, Empire, Fnatic, C9
North America: EG

Everyone seems certain about these 8
So those contenders for 9th, 10th and 11th slots are:

rox, dog, zephyr, noob, ig, lgd, revenge, titan

I'd honestly take zephyr and revenge so that it is truly "International". Those Chinese teams done fucked up, although LGD getting Ferrari as their carry might be nice.

 

[Nymerio]

What's that fungus godz is growing on his face?

 

[Sigismundo]

What's that fungus godz is growing on his face?

I'm less worried about that and more about the purple Twitch hoodie over the mustard tigerprint top.

Horrendous.

 

[Nymerio]

I'm less worried about that and more about the purple Twitch hoodie over the mustard tigerprint top.

Horrendous.

I still have nightmares from the time he was wearing that wifebeater :|

 

[balladofwindfishes]

How long does Welovefine take to ship exactly?

My Shagbark shipped on the 18th, almost a week later and nothing. No tracking info I could find either.

 

[dave is ok]

If there is no patch tonight:

 

[FACE]

Can someone change that to "ballad's dead baby. ballad's dead."

 

[Sigismundo]

Can someone change that to "ballad's dead baby. ballad's dead."

But his usual name is ned_ballad.

 

[TheCrow]

How long does Welovefine take to ship exactly?

My Shagbark shipped on the 18th, almost a week later and nothing. No tracking info I could find either.

I just received mine yesterday but I did get a tracking number. Actually I got the tracking number as soon as it shipped on the 18th.

 

[Kade]

 

[Arkanius]

Guys:

I don't know how to build Necrolyte.

 

[Sigismundo]

Guys:

I don't know how to build Necrolyte.

Mek.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

I like Radiance on Necro for laughs (don't do this unless you're stomping).

The amount of damage it does to people by just having you be alive is crazy.

 

[The Technomancer]

Guys:

I don't know how to build Necrolyte.

Mek into...fuck, I don't know, Hex? If Necro is dominating the game its usually not too dependent on his items.

 

[FACE]

Mjollnir!

 

[Tobe]

Yeah revenge is invited to the TI qualifiers, got confirmation of it last week when asking them if they were going.

 

[iamblades]

Guys:

I don't know how to build Necrolyte.

phase>mek>force>sheep>shivas>whatever

Insert BKB(probably after force) if needed depending on game.

 

[NBtoaster]

Dagon Necro is pretty okay too.

 

[Arkanius]

Mek into...fuck, I don't know, Hex? If Necro is dominating the game its usually not too dependent on his items.

Heart of Terrasque maybe?
And Scythe afterwards?

 

[Arkanius]

phase>mek>force>sheep>shivas>whatever

Insert BKB(probably after force) if needed depending on game.

So, the typical Int carry build?

 

[iamblades]

So, the typical Int carry build?

With the early mek addition, yes basically.

 

[LiQuid!]

It makes me mad that Battlefury is the third most built item on Bounty Hunter. What would it take to get Valve to edit some of the default suggested items that don't make any sense within the meta? If I have one more pub Gondar try to muscle an actual hard carry on our team out of safe farm, or not start ganking at level 6 instead of AFK farming I'm going to cry.

 

[SamVimes]

It makes me mad that Battlefury is the third most built item on Bounty Hunter. What would it take to get Valve to edit some of the default suggested items that don't make any sense within the meta? If I have one more pub Gondar try to muscle an actual hard carry on our team out of safe farm, or not start ganking at level 6 instead of AFK farming I'm going to cry.

Bounty Hunter with Battlefury is the shit in uncoordinated games. The "hardcore" community hates it because it's awful in pro games, but you can clearly see that the hero has 45% winrate in pubs and 55% when he builds battlefury.

 

[Arkanius]

With the early mek addition, yes basically.

Is it viable in a Necrophos mid?

 

[Imp the Dimp]

Is it viable in a Necrophos mid?

Sure?

 

[iamblades]

Bounty Hunter with Battlefury is the shit in uncoordinated games. The "hardcore" community hates it because it's awful in pro games, but you can clearly see that the hero has 45% winrate in pubs and 55% when he builds battlefury.

55% win rate for a major high dollar item like a battlefury is shit, cause it doesn't account for all the games where someone was planning on going battlefury and got shit on hard so ended up never finishing anything, Aside from Necro 2, Battlefury has the lowest win rate for items over 3000 gold.

Desolator, the typical first core item on BH after urn/drums/medallion, has a 62% win rate, is cheaper, and provides more utility in the early-mid game on a hero that isn't going to be spending a large amount of time farming creeps.

 

[LiQuid!]

Bounty Hunter with Battlefury is the shit in uncoordinated games. The "hardcore" community hates it because it's awful in pro games, but you can clearly see that the hero has 45% winrate in pubs and 55% when he builds battlefury.

I don't buy the correlation of items to winrate. Expensive, superfluous items have high winrate in pubs because if you can afford them you're probably already stomping and the win is assured.

 

[Granadier]

Personally, I would go Deso first and then grab a BF later on if there is a need for push.

 

[LiQuid!]

I have a 100% winrate on Bounty Hunter with a Dagon 5, clearly it should be added to the suggested core.

 

[Emerson]

Of all the awful common Battlefury builders there's none that makes any less sense to me than Bounty.

 

[bbd23]

7 game losing streak...im going to say its because I decided to try pudge again.

this is punishment

 

[Emerson]

If you want to hear some awesome news about TI4 qualifiers, tune in to tonight's GD show on http://twitch.tv/thegdstudio !

.

 

[Gully State]

BH farms heroes not creeps...BF makes no sense on him