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Dota 2 |OT4| The saga of Vade and ReRixo: the Boat Anchors continues.

Arkanius

Member
Can hope for this week but probably not likely. Could be a couple weeks. They're probably not done making them, and Valve may not have expected the goal to be reached this fast.

I really can't believe they didn't expect the goals to be reached this fast.
I think they might have everything ready up to the Mini-Pudge courier
 

Ketch

Member
the funny part is when it takes them until ti7 to get any of the stretch goals into the game.

new game mode? See you in 2016.
 

Aesthet1c

Member
I'm currently out of town and won't be able to buy this years compendium till next week, but I will still get all the current stretch goals right? I don't remember how it worked last year because I bought the compendium when it was released.
 
I'm currently out of town and won't be able to buy this years compendium till next week, but I will still get all the current stretch goals right? I don't remember how it worked last year because I bought the compendium when it was released.

It even says so in the compendium itself, that you'll get all the rewards. Works the same way as last year.

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And regarding compendium rewards - courier and various hero effects (tp, blink dagger, dagon) is out now. No idea about the rest. Immortal items could well come after the ti.
 

Skinpop

Member
When do we actually get the Compendium rewards (loading screens, couriers, immortal items etc.)?

Last year we got courier immediately(but you had to hatch it), hud took a few weeks I think. Immortal item even longer(maybe after TI). So don't expect them any time soon.
 

Taborcarn

Member
Last year we got courier immediately(but you had to hatch it), hud took a few weeks I think. Immortal item even longer(maybe after TI). So don't expect them any time soon.

Looks like that might be the case. I bought the pack of 2400 points, so I qualified for plenty of treasures, loading screens, etc. All I got so far was the Lt. Squakins courier.
 

traveler

Not Wario

Reddit Arcana Votes are in fwiw

Hero Votes %
Io 2783 8%
Zeus 2227 6%
Invoker 2035 6%
SF 2030 6%
Rubick 1632 5%
Wraith King1391 4%
CM 1036 3%
Pudge 942 3%
Tiny 823 2%
Meepo 808 2%

While Reddit users account for a small portion of the userbase, it's at least some data on how votes might go.

Not too surprised with most of the results, but Io at the top did kind of shock me, given how infrequently played- much less played to success- the hero seems to be in pubs. Also kind of at a loss as to how a good Arcana for the hero would work without completely changing the design.

Zeus and SF make sense, but I don't think it's the right way to be about it. Most of the reasoning in the threads seem to be about how they have terrible models. They both need, and will in all likelihood receive, remodels. That has nothing to do with the arcana, which won't change the base model and will only be available for those who plunk down $35 anyways. Now, if someone simply likes the hero and wants to vote it in for no other reason than that, that seems fine, but the whole model revamp angle just seems like a misguided approach to me.

Invoker high up as expected. Will probably be higher in the final poll. Glad to see my top pick- the other magus- high up as well. Seems to have enough of a chance that I'd feel comfortable voting for him. Rest of the choices seem predictable as well.
 

traveler

Not Wario
As stated above, Zeus is going to get a remodel. This arcana will not remodel him, nor should it. Arcanas traditionally affect one to a few elements of a hero's appearance, not the whole thing. (Lina's hair, LC's eyes, TB being the exception)

The worst case scenario would be Valve actually viewing the arcana as a remodel, as the community seems to wish, because then we wouldn't even get the remodel needed for the character and only those willing to pay $35 for a cosmetic item would get the "update" he is due.

I still like a Zeus a lot and think there's room for some pretty impressive additional visuals given his nature, but I'm not going to vote for a character whose final model and post-breakdown cosmetics I've even yet to see.

I also think a lot of people have this impression that Zeus' portly plumber appearance is somehow part of the "alpha" nature of his model. While it's possible that Valve could reevaluate their stance on the character's design, it seems more likely to me that the humorous contrast between his identity and look is a core part of their take on the hero, and no remodel or arcana is going to flout what they believe the character should be. They've purposefully avoided giving Zeus the majestic and muscled appearance of a traditional god, and, unless they do a 180, that won't change with further additions. (And if they do do a 180, you'll get that appearance with the remake anyways, no arcana needed)

All that said, I'll sell my vote out and go Zeus if he really does have a better chance of beating Pudge than Rubick. :(
 

Hupsel

Member
I love Mirana and its one of my most played heroes but I cant believe her ulti costs only 75 mana and it only has a 100sec cooldown on level 3. Destroys sooo many pubs and even pros seem to have difficulty dealing with it sometimes.
I was thinking something like this ulti should cost something like 125 or have a cooldown like Luna's Eclipse (or make Eclipse with less cooldown once you level it up pls I dont wanna wait two years to cast another one every time).
 
I love Mirana and its one of my most played heroes but I cant believe her ulti costs only 75 mana and it only has a 100sec cooldown on level 3. Destroys sooo many pubs and even pros seem to have difficulty dealing with it sometimes.
I was thinking something like this ulti should cost something like 125 or have a cooldown like Luna's Eclipse (or make Eclipse with less cooldown once you level it up pls I dont wanna wait two years to cast another one every time).

Icefrog is probably going to wreck Mirana in the next patch. Lower starfall damage, lower arrow damage and duration, higher leap mana cost, nerf to moonlight, yeah she gonna get rekt.
 

Acinixys

Member
I love Mirana and its one of my most played heroes but I cant believe her ulti costs only 75 mana and it only has a 100sec cooldown on level 3. Destroys sooo many pubs and even pros seem to have difficulty dealing with it sometimes.
I was thinking something like this ulti should cost something like 125 or have a cooldown like Luna's Eclipse (or make Eclipse with less cooldown once you level it up pls I dont wanna wait two years to cast another one every time).

Its 15 seconds at all levels which is dumb

Should be 5 - 10 -15

Hero isnt so OP anymore
 

ViviOggi

Member
I love Mirana and its one of my most played heroes but I cant believe her ulti costs only 75 mana and it only has a 100sec cooldown on level 3. Destroys sooo many pubs and even pros seem to have difficulty dealing with it sometimes.
I was thinking something like this ulti should cost something like 125 or have a cooldown like Luna's Eclipse (or make Eclipse with less cooldown once you level it up pls I dont wanna wait two years to cast another one every time).

It used to cost 175 mana, have a 160/140/120 cooldown and a duration of 11 seconds. Nobody ever picked her.
 

The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
Its 15 seconds at all levels which is dumb

Should be 5 - 10 -15

Hero isnt so OP anymore

Honestly, I'd be fine with just this. Leap, Arrow, whatever they're annoying but not more annoying then anything else. Its just the duration on her ult right now is so ridiculously good
 
5 second ult would be useless. People would skip it.

She's still firmly in fotm in my mind. Doesn't really need anything other than people to play better against her and others to just get sick of her.
 

Hupsel

Member
It used to cost 175 mana, have a 160/140/120 cooldown and a duration of 11 seconds. Nobody ever picked her.

That seems a bit excessive. Maybe need to find a balance between how it used to be and how it is now. Or maybe increase pounce mana cost or increase the arrow cooldown.
 
5 second ult would be useless. People would skip it.

She's still firmly in fotm in my mind. Doesn't really need anything other than people to play better against her and others to just get sick of her.
I don't know if getting picked so often and still having a 60% winrate is quite fotm, I think she's a bit too strong.
 
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