I noticed the blink gaming but not the euls gaming, well played.
OH none of them had BKB wow what a bunch of jokes.
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I noticed the blink gaming but not the euls gaming, well played.
OH none of them had BKB wow what a bunch of jokes.
Procarbine
Forever Platinum
Yeah we were wondering. Guess they were too concerned with am to buy bkb for us.
I haven't forgotten.
Vaudeville Villain
Member
That feel when you have a huge comeback. Ugh it's such an addicting feeling. Was losing with centaur, was working toward HoT, instead bought blade mail first because PA was melting me. Not anymore! Gave us a great momentum.
Dreams-Visions
Member
snitches get stitches
I can't snitch about something he already knows.
Treads - Mek - Blink is core
After that its up to you
Aghs + Refresher (if youre a massive asshole), Heart, Shivas, Orchid and Sheep are all excellent
Dagon is something I really disagree with. Sure its nice to do Dagon 5 - Ult and secure a kill but then what? You have no HP or moblility to do anything else
But if you have a Mek and some tankabilty, you can spam death pulse at least 4+ times in a fight and win through sheer HP sustain for your team
Teknopathetic
Member
Don't worry, I haven't forgotten either.
His punishment has been meted.
His punishment has been meted.
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Deleted member 77995
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2-0 in ranked so far. Everyone has been very pleasant so far outside of the enemy team fussing in all chat about their DK buying Radiance.
Not gonna lie I feel like I've done absolutely nothing in both games. Random dice roll and I somehow got the team with the carries that know what they're doing.
Not gonna lie I feel like I've done absolutely nothing in both games. Random dice roll and I somehow got the team with the carries that know what they're doing.
oh wow
Rofl
SecretMoblin
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I'm sure it gets asked frequently, but are there any good videos (or sites with lots of pictures/examples) for efficient micro? I'm not really into meepo (yet) but I like Manta Style and I usually don't deal with the various potential benefits of Helm because creep micro makes me break out in hives.
I really like this vid re: Naga and SC2-esque "cloning" and I understand the concept, but I have autoattack off so getting them to the camps and shift-queueing attack-moves for each one is a damn pain.
I know all about unified unit orders and I have hotkeys for all units and all non-hero units, but tabbing is frustrating since it doesn't deselect other units and setting up control groups might be an issue because I use number keys for items (because fuck trying to twitch-press "z" to use an item).
I've gone in a lobby and can get basic stuff down but the clicking and camera control is still annoying as all hell and I'm usually quicker at getting this stuff with real RTSs.
I really like this vid re: Naga and SC2-esque "cloning" and I understand the concept, but I have autoattack off so getting them to the camps and shift-queueing attack-moves for each one is a damn pain.
I know all about unified unit orders and I have hotkeys for all units and all non-hero units, but tabbing is frustrating since it doesn't deselect other units and setting up control groups might be an issue because I use number keys for items (because fuck trying to twitch-press "z" to use an item).
I've gone in a lobby and can get basic stuff down but the clicking and camera control is still annoying as all hell and I'm usually quicker at getting this stuff with real RTSs.
oh wow
ice cold
Dreams-Visions
Member
Holy shit. RIPoh wow
Somewhere I hear Bane saying, "your punishment must be more severe..."
Dreams-Visions
Member
And so decidedly not fun to play against.
Etheredoh wow
NormalFish
Banned
oh wow
ahahahaha
he's INFINITELY less annoying to play against than riki or bh
NormalFish
Banned
or PL or BS or Earth Spirit or like 10 other heroes. Honestly don't mind playing into Slark.
Dreams-Visions
Member
depends on how late the game goes. he carries harder than either you just mentioned. that ult is broken.
i think it's because a good slark is so entertaining to watch
slark is like weaver, if you dont have the tools to deal with him, yall are fucked
Whe playing against a slark I think I hate his Dark Pact dispel more than his ult.
Clockwork is pretty good...
Haunted
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NormalFish
Banned
Thing is, both of those heroes are dealt with by a huge amount of heroes. Weaver is destroyed by (relatively) long duration lockdown, and Slark by heavy AoE -- two things that are very widely distributed. Additionally, both of them have heroes that are just awful to play into like Void for Weaver or Bloodseeker for Slark.
Honestly I think both heroes are very well balanced.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
I think manta is really good against Techies.
Illusions in general are great vs Techies. I remember when he came out everyone was spamming pl to counter him.
Glass Shark
Banned
I love watching Secret play. I'm becoming an unapologetic fanboy.
NormalFish
Banned
At scrub MMR though, people don't realize this. Incredibly frustrating to watch your teammates just select all and march into mines with their illusions.
I think weaver is fine, just one of those heroes that you need to pick around so you don't end up in a pub with a no stun lineup and just know how the game is going to go.
Slark still seems very very strong though. AOE lockdown is actually pretty limited and if the slark is smart he will just go SB or blink and pick his engagements carefully.
NormalFish
Banned
Well BS is coming into CM now, so I think nerfs should be held off. I agree he's on the strong side, though. I'll admit that. I think part of his strength is just that he has a very high margin for error. On the surface he seems really high skill requirement, but with blink or BKB you can never land a leap and still do a ton of damage and avoid dying.
I think he could use a nerf to his ult active of some kind. Not sure what.
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As Illidan runs through secret lol...
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Secret's not going to be happy with how that went
NormalFish
Banned
VP.P is really not helping my case that Slark isn't broken.
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Man, void is doing nothing...
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Man, void is doing nothing...
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Concerning how Kuroky consistently has trouble keeping up in farm in a lot of games, I don't see top carries have this problem. You can't just rely on a farmed Razor to carry you.
When you're cloning, an easy trick is to send them all to the camp, then when they are all in position issue an attack-move command to all units anywhere on the map. They should all begin to attack the camp they are standing in if they were close enough. The other option is to just get in the habit of a-moving as you are cloning instead of right clicking. You'd be doing a-click, deselect one illusion, a-click the next place, deselect one illusion, etc. The only other trick I can think of is using the selection box. It's not as accurate, but people used to do this to split up their marines vs banelings in SC2.
For Meepo, you need to get used to hotkeys. The easiest way to practice this is to make a lobby for yourself, get 5 meepos and break them into 3 control groups. The main meepo is on one, then break the other four are in two groups of two. Practice moving around the map with your main meepo while farming the entire jungle with the other two groups. Playing micro heroes is less about being quick on the mouse and more about learning these little shortcuts to make your life easier. For instance, when I've got the two groups of farming meepos in the jungle, you can send them to two different camps, then tell each group to attack move a second camp. That way they will just move to the next camp themselves whenever they kill the first camp.
I think Lycan and Terrorblade are really good beginner micro heroes to practice. Terrorblade creates illusions much more slowly than Naga and with Lycan you only need to micro the two wolves as a group. If that's still too overwhelming, playing heroes like Luna, Drow, DK, or Gyro that can build a helm and stack ancients is a good way to get in the habit of using a second unit regularly.
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