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[Chris R]

C9

FIXED

 

[manfestival]

classic rtz euls

 

[Vade]

ROTK still a feeder years later

 

[Divvy]

That RTZ deny

 

[Vaporak]

Zai SMH

Also, fucking Chinese firewall, I wanna watch in game but this laaaaaag

same, I tried watching in game and it's just to stuttery.

 

[Eleuin]

thats true love right there

 

[Chris R]

This .ppt is really exciting!

 

[shira]

eurgh misery midas, rly?

 

[KingKong]

geez I know Secret looks good but lets wait until they do more than play bo1s vs Navi, HellRaisers, Clown 9 and Big God

 

[SteveWinwood]

of course the techies game ends up going too long and being boring as shit

 

[inkls]

This game is really about the rtz + EE bromance

 

[Qvoth]

TECHIES WON HAHAHA

 

[Quesa]

of course the techies game ends up going too long and being boring as shit

35 minutes?

ONE HUNDRED PERCENT WIN RATE HERO

Black played him a while ago and lost IIRC

 

[Haly]

ONE HUNDRED PERCENT WIN RATE HERO

 

[Radec]

Sniper had more deaths than Techies. Classic Jacky Mao

 

[Kard8p3]

thats wat u techies haters get.

 

[Satch]

K I C K B O N E 7 A N D E E

 

[shira]

I blame everything on dipshit pants spectator

 

[scarybore]

Love n0tail but he was pretty much anonymous that game, losing so hard to Secret ain't gonna help either.

Secret look great though, Puppey <3.

 

[SteveWinwood]

35 minutes?



Black played him a while ago and lost IIRC

could have been 20

and blacks was a random because they ran out of time

also navi (?) picked him and lost 2 days ago this tourney so like 50 percent

 

[kvk1]

Love n0tail but he was pretty much anonymous that game, losing so hard to Secret ain't gonna help either.

I don't think he casted a single spell that wasn't instantly stolen by Kuroky.

 

[Quesa]

could have been 20

and blacks was a random because they ran out of time

could have been like 10

and did that game not end up counting?

 

[Usobuko]

Next set of 3 games not as interesting except maybe to see if NaVi will go 0-4.

CDEC vs NaVi should be a close affair.

 

[Manus]

What's up with Bone7's Legion? Always goes blink blademail and never does anything with it. They pick her way to much and never do anything with her.

 

[Qvoth]

lc is 0% winrate in all competitives right?

 

[SteveWinwood]

I'm watching the madden bowl now on twitch it has michelle Beadle which makes it better than dac

could have been like 10

and did that game not end up counting?

oh it counted just saying it wasnt intentional

 

[sleverfunk]

Finally C9 is first

Spoiler

to lose a game against a techies.

 

[Chris R]

lc is 0% winrate in all competitives right?

With C9 it seems like it.

 

[shira]

lc is 0% winrate in all competitives right?

With C9 it seems like it.

What's up with Bone7's Legion? Always goes blink blademail and never does anything with it. They pick her way to much and never do anything with her.

Bonechan LC record
13-9, 59% winrate

 

[Night_Hand]

Finally C9 is first

Spoiler

to lose a game against a techies.

EE finally did it

 

[SteveWinwood]

the madden bowl is literally the most boring thing ever

 

[twobear]

the madden bowl is literally the most boring thing ever

well it's based on american football so

 

[Hylian7]

Crystal Maiden is a terrible fucking hero. No idea why people like her, especially in a pub.

 

[Kalnos]

Crystal Maiden is a terrible fucking hero. No idea why people like her, especially in a pub.

55% win rate, yo

 

[Hylian7]

55% win rate, yo

Useless as fuck all game and just food, woo.

 

[Zephyx]

Crystal Maiden is a terrible fucking hero. No idea why people like her, especially in a pub.

She has great harassing potential in lane, mana regeneration in the early game for everyone and a devastating ultimate in early-mid game if positioned well. She can also jungle if the lane she's supporting is doing well. The only thing to really dislike about the hero is her low movement speed and subpar base damage.

 

[Hylian7]

She has great harassing potential in lane, mana regeneration in the early game for everyone and a devastating ultimate in early-mid game if positioned well. She can also jungle if the lane she's supporting is doing well. The only thing to really dislike about the hero is her low movement speed and subpar base damage.

Her subpar health sucks too.

Vs a Centaur and Techies I was absolutely useless. I was scared of Pudge the whole lane.

Good luck actually getting level 6 by 10 minutes, because your ulti is already useless by then.

 

[Haly]

Crystal Maiden is a terrible fucking hero. No idea why people like her, especially in a pub.

moshi moshi crystal maiden desu

 

[Hylian7]

moshi moshi crystal maiden desu

That's you stacking with good players.

 

[SteveWinwood]

yeah haly you suck and did nothing

 

[Hylian7]

yeah haly you suck

Not saying Haly sucks, saying that CM sucks and basically has a good team to coordinate/carry him.

If those were all solo matches, the results would be completely different.

 

[Zephyx]

Her subpar health sucks too.

Vs a Centaur and Techies I was absolutely useless. I was scared of Pudge the whole lane.

Good luck actually getting level 6 by 10 minutes, because your ulti is already useless by then.

I think her health is just on par with other supports though. And her ult is still good until around 20-30 mins. By the time late game comes, if you don't get picked off immediately, it is a good MS/AS slow. I cannot comment on how you position yourself during teamfights or how your teammates perform but I think she's not the most useless support out there and she is viable with mana-based heroes like Bristleback or Storm Spirit. You just have to be more careful than usual with your positioning given her low MS.

 

[SteveWinwood]

all these conversations are the same

hylian: x
everyone else: y
hylian: not y not y not y

like we cant convince you and you dont want to hear it anyway so whats the point

 

[Hylian7]

I think her health is just on par with other supports though. And her ult is still good until around 20-30 mins. By the time late game comes, if you don't get picked off immediately, it is a good MS/AS slow. I cannot comment on how you position yourself during teamfights or how your teammates perform but I think she's not the most useless support out there and she is viable with mana-based heroes like Bristleback or Storm Spirit. You just have to be more careful than usual with your positioning given her low MS.

I never understand what people say when they say "position yourself better" I try to mimic what I see pros or better players do, and I try it and if I get anywhere close to a fight, I'm already dead basically. What am I missing here.

 

[shira]

4

 

[Hylian7]

4

What?

 

[Usobuko]

4v4.

 

[Haly]

I'm spectating you right now. I haven't been able to see much of the game but I saw one thing you're doing completely wrong.

Crystal Mage has an effective range of 1000.

Your positioning makes her look like a level 5 VS. You're always within swap range, hook range, or Blink range. Whenever they decide to go for you, you die.

This is what an engagement should ideally look like:

Backline ------- Frontline ---- Front Line ------- Backline

This is where you should be:
CM --- Backline ------- Frontline ---- Front Line ------- Backline

This is where you usually are:
Backline ------- CM --- Frontline ---- Front Line ------- Backline

It's the same problem I see in your other replays, particularly the Storm ones, but the effect is magnified here because CM is 100% reliant on positioning and has 0 built in escapes like Storm does. You can get away with shoddy positioning on Storm because, hey, cooldownless Blink.

You cannot do that on CM.

 

[Hylian7]

I'm spectating you right now. I haven't been able to see much of the game but I saw one thing you're doing completely wrong.

Crystal Mage has an effective range of 1000.

Your positioning makes her look like a level 5 VS. You're always within swap range, hook range, or Blink range. If they ever decide to go for you, you die.

How is it possible to not be in those ranges then? I'm confused, is that what you're saying I'm doing wrong?

 

[shira]

Rave beats newbee PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPNOISE