Monochromaticx
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DOTA 2 |OT8| DOTA Asian Championship (1/27-2/9)
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Or send them to your own well
This, Icefrog pls
full circle
I have played over 60 games + since the item drop change
And Ive seen 1 set drop
If it carries on this way it seems you get a set every 40 - 60 hours of playing
I don't even think that's correct. I've played 121 games since 6.82c according to dotabuff. I assume that's the patch that changed it right? And I don't believe I've had any sets drop.
Absolutely destroy mid, gank both lanes with success, win early game..... Watch on as three idiots get caught in a Chrono each team fight 4 times in a row. Lose game.
I wish I could play with bots instead.
edit: The second game I played I absolutely wrecked everything as TA mid but this time I had an Io and a Shadow Demon that did the greatest plays. What a difference it makes when you got two people capable of not getting caught in chrono. If only all games were like this. We still had a Russian Ursa that got angry when people didn't dive and die with him but he luckily went afk jungle at like 8 minutes until 25 minutes which made our team fights much easier.
Here's the Dotabuff. http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1051060652
I know the TA god thinks that Yasha is better but I prefer Blink anyway.
I wish I could play with bots instead.
edit: The second game I played I absolutely wrecked everything as TA mid but this time I had an Io and a Shadow Demon that did the greatest plays. What a difference it makes when you got two people capable of not getting caught in chrono. If only all games were like this. We still had a Russian Ursa that got angry when people didn't dive and die with him but he luckily went afk jungle at like 8 minutes until 25 minutes which made our team fights much easier.
Here's the Dotabuff. http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1051060652
I know the TA god thinks that Yasha is better but I prefer Blink anyway.
Just played the most frustrating, horrible game of my life
Versus a Tinker using macros and the instant hex hack
Holy fuck
I didnt realize how 100% pathetic it is untill right now
The amount of times I blinked onto tinker only to be instantly hexed, even when he was facing AWAY from me, was amazing
We got destroyed for the first hour due to Tinkers bullshit
Really hope he gets VAC banned or something because cancer like this needs to die
Versus a Tinker using macros and the instant hex hack
Holy fuck
I didnt realize how 100% pathetic it is untill right now
The amount of times I blinked onto tinker only to be instantly hexed, even when he was facing AWAY from me, was amazing
We got destroyed for the first hour due to Tinkers bullshit
Really hope he gets VAC banned or something because cancer like this needs to die
Don't professional Dota 2 players also use instant/real_time recorded macros on their keyboards and mouse?
Especially those Invokers...
Haunted
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Maybe he just had godlike reflexes.
I didn't even know something like that was a thing in Dota.
sleverfunk
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Quickcast is also possible.
DivineRage002
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Chen's Aghanim's upgrade - Now triples the attack damage of any creep captured.
May be overkill, 2x might be more balanced.
I wish there was a way to force an abandon on someone that's ruining a game. I shouldn't be forced to sit around for 30+ minutes just because someone decides to throw a fit at 5 minutes in because he gets destroyed by an Ember Spirit as Pudge.
and yeah that Ember Spirit got a 18 minute Rapier.
and yeah that Ember Spirit got a 18 minute Rapier.
The issue is there is no good way to autodetect it without there inevitably being a false positive.
And a manual solution would just be abused by 4 stacks labeling the 5th player as the issue.
The best thing to do is attempt positive reinforcement and try and rally some hope into them. That or AFK farm jungle and ask for a quick finish.
And a manual solution would just be abused by 4 stacks labeling the 5th player as the issue.
The best thing to do is attempt positive reinforcement and try and rally some hope into them. That or AFK farm jungle and ask for a quick finish.
A Sentient Keyboard
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I read through the OP and signed up for the steam group before I noticed the thread is from 2012.
Dreams-Visions
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Not sure how many I've played, but I've seen 3 or 4 non-event drops. A couple of sets and one of the new chests dropped. Definitely low.
I must know where this comes from.
Gully State
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I used to be super against any type of abandon and was very adamant in keeping my abandons at 0. but after getting multiple losses in games I won because of network issues( even was put in LPQ for it- only took one game in ranked ). I honestly stopped giving a shit. I don't do it often but nowadays if I'm in particularly bad games where my team has been rolled/is bickering/doesn't bother even fighting back and just going through the motions while the enemy team lengthens the game by farming kills... I just politely excuse myself In chat and take the abandon..(I have 10 or so in like 1200 games... Half were wins being counted as losses because of network problems)...I'm not going to be vigilant with not abandoning if the system punishes me for issues beyond my control.
Most of the Chen aghs upgrade suggestions deal with creeps, but I would much rather have a larger heal, even if it means the cd is still 120s. His ultimate has the exact same problem as Mek, in that after about 30 minutes a 250 and 200/300/400 heal really isn't much. It buys each player maybe 5 extra seconds in a teamfight.
Its ridiculous to me that a Bloodstone, for nearly the same amount of gold, is a more effective heal late game than Chen's ultimate with aghs. Granted, Chen would have to die or commit suicide, but more likely than not, in a post 30 minute fight, you are going to die, even with exceptional positioning.
I think you just have to accept that Chen's creeps are going to tail off near the end of the game and instead of giving him ancients, make aghs upgrade spells that he can reliably get off.
Other support heroes are much more effective with aghs than Chen is.
Its ridiculous to me that a Bloodstone, for nearly the same amount of gold, is a more effective heal late game than Chen's ultimate with aghs. Granted, Chen would have to die or commit suicide, but more likely than not, in a post 30 minute fight, you are going to die, even with exceptional positioning.
I think you just have to accept that Chen's creeps are going to tail off near the end of the game and instead of giving him ancients, make aghs upgrade spells that he can reliably get off.
Other support heroes are much more effective with aghs than Chen is.
SirJackDaniels
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I have played some Chen games as well. Chen with Mek + Aghs is very good IMO.
Meaning you can give a 250 - 400 heal every 15-20 sec untill you are OOM. Very good for pushing.
Meaning you can give a 250 - 400 heal every 15-20 sec untill you are OOM. Very good for pushing.
SteveWinwood
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damn i havent seen an ebaums link in like 10 years
Positive reinforcement never works. They will start flaming you as well.
The problem with this method is that you're giving the bad people a get out of jail free card. You take the hit while they get off scot free.
The best is however when they go afk and you manage to postpone the game long enough for them to get an abandon. Feels better than winning an even match of Dota 2.
Thinking about it. Punishing players for having not fun and wanting to leave is very backwards gamedesign. I wish they would figure out a way to solve it. Whatever happen to having bots sub in for people that leave?
lol, thanks.
I have 6 abandons in total. All 6 were due to my pc crashing and having an issue that prevented me from going back in game. Never got into LPQ.
I'm surprised you don't mute your team if their bickering annoys you that much. Honestly though, I like to motivate myself to not abandon by watching comeback videos.
Here's my "never give up, never surrender" playlist:
I'M THE JUGGERNAUT, BITCH!
CHAOS DUNK
The Last Rax
UNBREAKABLE 2
No Retreat! No Surrender!
Never give up
Also a baserace because why not?
Gully State
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My time is more important than enforcing Valve's system at this point, especially since I've been punished unfairly multiple times. I'd rather just move on to the next match. If they're using bad language, they get muted and/or reported. They'll end up in LPQ either way.
Gully State
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One of those network abandons was in ranked (we were stomping the other team)...you automatically go into LPQ for even one.
I don't have a problem with bad language ...it's moreso when it's bickering + the team has given up (not even thinking about taking some type of objective- just prolonging the experience).
Had a game last night where I was a noob invoker for not ganking either lane. The problem was top had a broodmother who was 6-0 less than 10 min into the game because no one bought sentries. And bottom was a tri lane with a techies that wasn't on the map for the first 5 minutes, minning the jungle.
2 questions
Why do people buy midas then want to take team fights 10 mins later? Makes no sense.
Also, Is there a new ember build I'm not aware of because it seems like almost every ember completely skips searing chains in favour of sleight of fists. And I can't understand why anyone would want to do less damage and have zero disable.
2 questions
Why do people buy midas then want to take team fights 10 mins later? Makes no sense.
Also, Is there a new ember build I'm not aware of because it seems like almost every ember completely skips searing chains in favour of sleight of fists. And I can't understand why anyone would want to do less damage and have zero disable.
You don't go LP for communication abuse though, you just get muted (which punishes the people who have to play with them more tbh)
Gully State
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You're right about the punishment...my mistake they don't go into LPQ...I just get the notification when I report people.
I played with a muted person once (partied up- was someone my friend had played with prior). We lost and after the game in party chat he fired up some outlandish racist diatribe. Given what he said, I don't think him communicating in game would've made the situation any better.
Like I said, Its all about motivation. In the first video I linked the guy's teammate flame eachother, yet they still pull through.
I had a Storm Spirit game a few days ago with our team being Storm, Luna, Disruptor, Sniper, Vengeful Spirit VS PA, Undying, LC, Juggernaut, Necro.
Vs that lineup our Luna got no Mkb, got bkb (look at how many of their ults she blocked...), and was building towards an aghs. Our disruptor was muted and he and venge got caught out of position so many times. Sniper was the only one remotely smart and built an mkb.
I ended up 24/2 and we won. With assists I participated in like 75% of my team's kills and the score had only 2-3 kills in difference in the end so imagine without me the score my team had. We had no chance late game vs their lineup, and my team never communicated and kept diving Undying early giving him nice triple kills.
If you're worried about your team, play snowballing heroes, splitpushers, and/or big teamfight heroes like Enigma, Doom, Tidehunter, sand king, etc.
If your team is a set variable like you set them out to be, then pick in accordance to what they lack. If they can't push, get a pushing hero.
Gully State
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Flaming each other by itself is ok as long as it's constructive and not overly toxic. I'm talking about when the team as a whole has lost early game and just at this point is afraid to die (no offense...don't push.. just dance around towers while the enemy team systematically takes objectives- it's especially maddening as a support player - I'll buy smokes/wards etc... nothing). I stick it out through games for the most part as long as people have a semblance of wanting to win. I have 10 total abandons (about half were due to network issues) so it's not like I'm leaving after first blood. But I'm not going to will a team to win if they can't do it themselves.
Also, I pretty much pick last for the most part and generally play teamfight support (a role I loathe in general but one that no one plays).
Well? With that team what supports would be appropriate do you think? Shadow Shaman can push, Dazzle is a good anti-retard hero, etc.
Have you tried asking for a role at the hero selection? I usually do that and if the rest of my team says its ok I often get the lane I asked. Like I said earlier, you can complement your team. If you did your job and they still fail, its not on you. I've had games we won where we had no support and I had to buy/upgrade the courier when playing mid/safelane carry.
Haunted
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like dis if you cry evry time
Gully State
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I have this problem where I hate playing support but I don't trust random people to play support.. But that's a different discussion and quite frankly this one has veered off what I originally posted which was I no longer care much for preserving my low abandon rate.
I haven't had anything drop since the patch. I'd rather have the old drop system back even if I get mostly common stuff. Or hell, how about just make it so that you see a progress bar to your next drop? I don't know why Valve feels the need to hide it. It's not like when it drops, you're guaranteed an arcana. Most of the drops that I've seen posted have been just your typical common sets. At least that way you know you're working towards getting something.
trymikeforinstance always has good videos
I really like his editing
But that Echo Slam wasnt even that cool
It was on like 2 guys
I was expecting this
SecretMoblin
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noooooo steve 
Monochromaticx
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dave is ok
aztek is ok
Was the PA Arcana ever taken off of -20%? If so, it's back to being -20% again.
That's what google gave me that worked.
No, it will be 20% off until the end of the event.
Alternatively if these are too long just watch this:
http://youtu.be/KxGRhd_iWuE
Instant 200-500 MMR boost.
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