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DOTA2 |OT15| anime only please
- Thread starter Artanisix
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how do i dota. i bought a solar crest when we had 2 because what's checking team items. at least this 4 stack seemed to be operating fine anyway
so whos water dumple
no one
http://steamcommunity.com/id/waterdumple
probably a chat bug
Great shout, thank you! I mostly used to play as Necrophos support so I'm really keen to try him now with his new magical healing powers
Ghost Shroud plus Mek and Death Pulse should be amazing in team fights.
shira
Member
Rofl playing with the soon-to-be-kicked Major Winner-when-they-choke-at-TI
You can be high 5k to play on Arteezy's smurf so I don't think it's that hard on AUS server. There's only a few thousand Aussie's
You can be high 5k to play on Arteezy's smurf so I don't think it's that hard on AUS server. There's only a few thousand Aussie's
His party mmr is 'only' 5.4k. On aus that will usually put you into a 4k average game.
shira
Member
Monochromaticx
Member
feels like supporting is dead this patch
Only if you mean finishing lvl12 with only 2 items.
What makes you say that?
I played 3 games yesterday and won as the main support, with Witch Doctor, Troll Warlord and Sven. All worked out okay.
Monochromaticx
Member
only played 2 games, all goes well in early mid game, but the enemy has basically 5 carries and they just stream roll us.
I'd argue it's more alive than ever. In general supports got a significant power boost in most cases with talents. Other things that really help, big and small:
- Salve and Clarity no longer cancel on creep damage: this is huge because it helps so much with early game time management. Under a clarity, you aren't forced to walk around aimlessly if you don't have any wards to place. You can now pull without losing your clarity and even bully some melee heroes with shorter cast ranges than you. I would argue now supports probably want Clarity over mango, where previously I would say the opposite.
- Sanctuary: These give supports more staying power on the map and less trips back to fountain. Getting a good heal from one, including others such as your mid or offlane can go a long way.
- casual HotD becoming more of a support item: you can grab a creep and get abilities your hero doesn't usually have, such as Centaur stomp, troll net, etc. Hell you can even grab that little troll healer with the mana aura.
Pardon my ignorance, but how is HotD more of a support item now? Mostly by removing the mana cost for using it?
Have to be honest, and I'm super low MMR probably for reasons like this, but I always bought it before mostly for the lifesteal and as a path to Satanic, it was so rare I actually used the control creeps ability.
Have to be honest, and I'm super low MMR probably for reasons like this, but I always bought it before mostly for the lifesteal and as a path to Satanic, it was so rare I actually used the control creeps ability.
No longer provides lifesteal, instead provides an attack speed and HP Regen aura. Supports can stack camps or use creeps utility with it.
For cores, without the lifesteal it is just more of a stepping stone for Satanic.
No more life leech so it's not really for a carry anymore, HP regen aura which could allow you to go arcane boots over tranquils, 10 Attack Speed Aura which help the rest of your team. Then Dominate which is always a good way to get a net or a stomp ( if you have any micro skill, I know I don't ).
It doesn't build into Satanic any more either! Morbid Mask goes straight to Satanic (with a lot of gold for the recipe)
Thanks for the explanations though guys, sounds like it could be good as a support item - I'm probably going to avoid it myself for now since I was only just figuring out the concepts of stacking and pulling in the last patch, but throw having to micro (I can't do it either elyetis!) into the mix along with the entirely new jungles and I don't feel like I'd get any good use out of it
You're right, I forgot it doesn't build into Satanic.It doesn't build into Satanic any more either! Morbid Mask goes straight to Satanic (with a lot of gold for the recipe)
Thanks for the explanations though guys, sounds like it could be good as a support item - I'm probably going to avoid it myself for now since I was only just figuring out the concepts of stacking and pulling in the last patch, but throw having to micro (I can't do it either elyetis!) into the mix along with the entirely new jungles and I don't feel like I'd get any good use out of it
In that case even more of a support item argument.
StrongArmSteady
Member
For a pg movie rogue one was a fucking bloodbath
Good movie, tonally different from the main films
Good movie, tonally different from the main films
shadow2810
Member
Not really, they only transform to cores late game.
SecretMoblin
Member
now the support has to helm stack for lunda gyro and sven smh
Between Vlad's, Drums and now Dominator, plus probably some other stuff I'm forgetting, I feel like as a support player there are way too many mid-tier, marginally useful aura items I could buy instead of like a force staff or an invis cape that provides way more functionality.
It took you 2 movies to realize this?
even doto isn't safe from star wars discussions, no more internet until Saturday then I guess
It took you 2 movies to realize this?
shira
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Twitch IRL
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1325449
me: i know a spoiler
me to me:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1325449
even doto isn't safe from star wars discussions, no more internet until Saturday then I guess
me: i know a spoiler
me to me:
buff techies [/spoilers]
Have to disagree. The xp bonus or gold bonus certain supports have is huge. I feel like supports are stronger than ever now.
Isn't Storm aghs vortex a non-targetable spell? Ypu shouldn't be able to reflect that...
he didnt have a purchased aghs on him though. so when he targeted me it reflects back as the aoe one.
edit: I also just tested this and if storm has aghs and uses pull AM gets nothing
could be a legit item if you can farm fast and be ahead
shira
Member
This is their anti-BM technology.
Pay to BM.
SecretMoblin
Member
anti-italian racism
it's also why they haven't fixed coaching it's pissing me off
it's also why they haven't fixed coaching it's pissing me off
You need to post onto reddit and make it to the front page before they will fix it.
Wok
Member
9-slotted on WK at minute 43. Crits at higher than 2k damage in AOE. With guaranteed reincarnation (at zero mana cost) and escape with blink.
Finally, WK can effectively deal with diffusal carriers.
By the way, I'm more and more appreciating the new map.
Same. Apparently, your hero should not move while you type in chat.
Finally, WK can effectively deal with diffusal carriers.
By the way, I'm more and more appreciating the new map.
Same. Apparently, your hero should not move while you type in chat.
So, somehow I managed to get a 10.0 for support as Troll Warlord:
Bought a ward, 10/10 support.
Hero healing I imagine?So, somehow I managed to get a 10.0 for support as Troll Warlord:
Imp the Dimp
Member
I think talent trees are the only addition I enjoy this patch so far.
Wok
Member
Backpack is amazing for quality of life.
Love backpacks and talents. I like that there are now more runes in general. New UI is ok, not the biggest fan but I'll likely get over it. The ability to purchase at the pick stage is great. Not used to the map changes, but overall I like them. I think the Shrines should be put on cooldown at the start of the game.
SecretMoblin
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shadow2810
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That moment when your mid picked PL vs MK, went 0-7 then bought aghs.
Wok
Member
Burn all his mana or silence him, and burst him down before he can morph to strength, waveform or replicate away. Easier to say than to do.
Also, linkens is good vs shotgun morphling. Actually, Agha on AM could make him decent against Morphling, against all odds.
anti mage
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Deleted member 77995
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Glimmer capes, bkb, mana burn, silence.